 This group is as quite as I don't even know what
[00:38] <genii> A support channel which is quiet is actually a good thing, since it means either people aren't having problems, or the problems thay do have are easily solved without seeking assistance here
[01:14] <JavaBean> same reason that it is good for EMT's/FireFighter's to be bored
[02:43] <mutte> Hi
 Hello
[02:48] <mutte> Hi
[02:50] <mutte> Is there any one here who have a couple of minutes over and an erge to help out with some file/disk issues?
[02:50] <mutte> urge*
 Can this bot reply on messages?
 Explain away :) (re @IrcsomeBot: <mutte> Is there any one here who have a couple of minutes over and an erge to help out with some file/disk issues?)
 yes, ask your queries. (re @IrcsomeBot: <mutte> Is there any one here who have a couple of minutes over and an erge to help out with some file/disk issues?)
 it is a bridge bot between telegram and kde irc channels (re @Flooding: Can this bot reply on messages?)
 it is a bridge bot between telegram and kde's irc channels (re @Flooding: Can this bot reply on messages?)
[02:53] <mutte> Aha
[02:53] <mutte> Should I msg or can I just type like this?
[02:54] <mutte> It was 20 years ago I used IRC :D
 Ask in here. (re @IrcsomeBot: <mutte> Should I msg or can I just type like this?)
 ask here itself, just like you are talking now (re @IrcsomeBot: <mutte> Should I msg or can I just type like this?)
[02:55] <mutte> Ok
 Seems it can't do a reply on telegram messages. (re @ri5h46h: it is a bridge bot between telegram and kde's irc channels)
 yes it can't
[02:57] <mutte> When I made my partitions for Kubuntu I also formatted a disk. And the choise of mounting type for said disk I wanted didn't exist in the installer
[02:57] <mutte> So now Kubuntu has Hijacked a whole disk as /tmp
[02:58] <mutte> It's 120GB
 Also should it have been KRC or KIRC instead of IRC? (re @ri5h46h: it is a bridge bot between telegram and kde's irc channels)
 Also shouldn't it have been KRC or KIRC instead of IRC? (re @ri5h46h: it is a bridge bot between telegram and kde's irc channels)
 why? IRC if fine. (re @Flooding: Also shouldn't it have been KRC or KIRC instead of IRC?)
 KDE's logic (re @ri5h46h: why? IRC if fine.)
 KDE's logic (re @ri5h46h: why? IRC if fine.)
 i would suggest close the installer and wipe your disk once again. (re @IrcsomeBot: <mutte> It's 120GB)
 use cli.
 Guess it would confuse new users if it were called that. (re @Flooding: Also shouldn't it have been KRC or KIRC instead of IRC?)
[02:59] <mutte> I have that wonderful problem with ACPI when I install
[02:59] <mutte> 21.04 have never worked
 yes some new users get confused, that how is a bot replying to them.
 oh. (re @IrcsomeBot: <mutte> 21.04 have never worked)
[03:00] <mutte> This time I installed 20.10 and then ungraded
 it's actually not doing a reply, and that's confusing too (re @ri5h46h: yes some new users get confused, that how is a bot replying to them.)
 it's actually not doing a reply, and that's confusing too (re @ri5h46h: yes some new users get confused, that how is a bot replying to them.)
 it's actually not doing a reply, and that's confusing too (re @ri5h46h: yes some new users get confused, that how is a bot replying to them.)
[03:01] <mutte> Your answer comes twice
[03:01] <mutte> Now three times
 Edit counts (re @IrcsomeBot: <mutte> Your answer comes twice)
 Try tagging a user instead then. (re @Flooding: it's actually not doing a reply, and that's confusing too)
[03:01] <mutte> How do I tag a user?
 type my username like this " @ri5h46h " and send
[03:03] <mutte> @ri5h46h Oh, got yah
 yes, i got a notification.
[03:03] <mutte> @ri5h46h :D
 👍
[03:04] <mutte> @ri5h46h It goes much better for me with the installs if I choose to Try first and then install
[03:05] <mutte> @ri5h46h It must download some extra drivers or something
[03:07] <mutte> @ri5h46h I have looked online how to move /tmp but they are all abit different than my situation and I don't understand the commands that good so I can't really implement them
[03:10] <mutte> @murdock86 Hi there Sir
[03:10] <mutte> @murdock86 Do you happen to have the time and the skills I need?
 @mutte please run this command and paste the link:  df -lh | pastebinit
[03:21] <mutte> df -lh | pastebinit
 yes, run that in the terminal
[03:21] <mutte> I just did
[03:21] <mutte> Or in a terminal in Konversation?
 in a konsole window...
[03:22] <mutte> Oh, ok
 yest, terminal window
[03:23] <mutte> @DarinMiller https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/skhTpqtt9X/
 you might need to install pastebinit: sudo apt install pastebinit
[03:23] <mutte> @DarinMiller Will do Sir
 your link worked... reviewing now...
[03:24] <mutte> @DarinMiller How did you know I wanted all that to be installed?
[03:25] <mutte> UNinstalled
[03:25] <mutte> @DarinMiller UN-installed
 I am trying to understand what physical drives exist in your system so that I can suggest how make the changes you requested.
 please run: cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit
[03:28] <mutte> @DarinMiller https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qXhymM2pNy/
[03:29] <mutte> @DarinMiller It looked like installing pastebinit would uninstall akonadi but those processes are still running :(
 ?  pastebinit is working fine so no need to install it.
[03:30] <mutte> @DarinMiller The upgrade also moved EFI/Boot from my sdb1 to sda1. I need to move it back some how
[03:30] <mutte> @DarinMiller It just seems to me that akonadi records a lot of stuff
[03:31] <mutte> @DarinMiller I don't think akonadi came with the install. I think it installed when I installed KMail. But I'm not gonna use that anymore
 oh, i always install in the same way (re @IrcsomeBot: <mutte> @ri5h46h It goes much better for me with the installs if I choose to Try first and then install)
[03:33] <mutte> @ri5h46h The installer often crash for me even if I do it like that. But I found out that if you just leave it for a bit the installer actually keeps installing stuff
[03:33] <mutte> @ri5h46h So serveral times the installment worked
 oh got you.
 And now run this command: mount | grep sd | pastebinit
[03:36] <mutte> @DarinMiller Disk 1,2,4 are SSD:s But I'll run the command
[03:37] <mutte> @DarinMiller https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BjNgnzH79V/
 I am trying to figure out why you have 2 swap partitions.  I think we can safely comment out the tmp partition from the /etc/fstab file.  But I am trying to understand if anything else should be fixed.
[03:38] <mutte> @DarinMiller Entry #18 in my fstab
[03:39] <mutte> @DarinMiller What is that exactly
 brb....
[03:40] <mutte> @DarinMiller Ok thats nice of you. The reason is that my first plan was to install 3 different Ubuntus and try them out seperatly
[03:40] <mutte> @DarinMiller But I had so much fun and so much trouble with the first so I never installed the others
[03:41] <mutte> @DarinMiller If it wassn't for having some important files on sda3 on Windows and the major disk after that I would have formatted it
 No unfortunatly, im pretty new to this myself. (re @IrcsomeBot: <mutte> @murdock86 Hi there Sir)
[03:45] <mutte> @murdock86 No worries, I found a guy!
 ok one last command before we "fix" things: lsblk | pastebinit
[03:46] <mutte> @DarenMiller https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vqBGdMfGHP/
 mutte : actually mentioning an user's username again and again on telegram sends a notification, so avoid doing that everytime.
[03:48] <mutte> Oh I'm sorry I thought theese were direct meassages
 if you have telegram with you, you can join us on it at @kubuntu_support .
[03:50] <mutte> No I don't I'm sorry
 OK, given that is your current drive partition and configuration: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vqBGdMfGHP/
 use this site to specify (edit) the layout to your preference: https://paste.ubuntu.com/
 Then we can determine if we can accomplish the layout without re-installing.
[03:55] <mutte> @DarinMiller Awesome, thank you
[03:55] <mutte> @DarinMiller What are the loops?
 Ignore those, the OS sets those on boot.
[03:56] <mutte> @DarinMiller I'm not touching them. I'm just a curious man :D
 https://askubuntu.com/questions/381211/what-is-the-loop-partition-in-ubuntu
[03:57] <mutte> @DarinMiller The only reason I want to move GRUB back to disk 2 is that I'm farily certain it is going to be overwritten by Windows when I install that
 In your case, they are snap installations...
[03:58] <mutte> @DarinMiller Oh ok I see
[03:59] <mutte> @DarinMiller And hardware probes
 I suspect the hw-probes allow you snap sessions to communicate with your physical devices, but I am guessing on that part...
[04:01] <mutte> @DarinMiller No I did some probes for Linux Hardware and Fwupd
[04:01] <mutte> @DarinMiller I installed HW-Probe my self
 Did you install hw-probe from here? https://github.com/linuxhw/hw-probe
[04:04] <mutte> @DarinMiller I don't think I need to fill in the pastebin, the scheme you sent is correct so I only need to mark sdb1 as /boot/efi and copy the grub. I don't now how to access a partition if Linux didnt made it visible
[04:04] <mutte> @DarinMiller Yes from there
 I have never moved a /boot/efi partition except during install.  This link describes the process, but requires adapting the commands to fit your partitions and *buntu: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/111845/how-to-move-efi-and-boot-partitions
[04:12] <mutte> I have access to EFI - shell so I can move text around. I think that as long as I can flag the disks correct I can just copy the GRUB text
[04:12] <mutte> Need to confirme that GRUB is still left on sdb1 first
[04:12] <mutte> Almost done with pastebin
 Also, I recommend commenting out line 13 in your /etc/fstab file as you probably do not need a dedicated /tmp partition that is ~112GB.
[04:14] <mutte> I agree :D
[04:15] <mutte> I have stayed away from editing that file.
[04:15] <mutte> I think I should burn Kubuntu 21.04 on a USB stick before doing anything to the boot
 you might need to use partition manager to set the boot flag /dev/sdb1
[04:16] <mutte> @DarinMiller https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RWF2WJqnW6/
 Yes! always have backup plan :)
[04:16] <mutte> @DarinMiller Yeah maybe. Kubuntu won't let me. It just swiches back when I do
[04:18] <mutte> @DarinMiller I have had so much fun trying out Ubuntu. I started around two weeks ago and been sitting infront of the computer almost 24/7
[04:18] <mutte> @DarinMiller I've only used Windows before
 :) I know the feeling.  So much to learn!!!
[04:20] <mutte> @DarinMiller Yeah! I do feel that of the once I've tried I like Kubuntu the most. It suits me to have options for customizing alot
[04:21] <mutte> @DarinMiller But boy did I get my butt handed to me in the beginning. There are a few more rules to Linux than Windows
 Are you dual booting?  You have several unmounted large partitions.
 i.e. sda3, sdb3 and soon sdd1
[04:23] <mutte> @DarinMiller I was in the beginning but then I had an unfortunate accident. I was trying Clover for boot manager. And I had just booted it without installing or anything. And an option said "Press space for more info about your selection"
 LOL
[04:24] <mutte> @DarinMiller Well, it did give me the info not to hit space again
[04:25] <mutte> @DarinMiller So since I did not set it up at all I apperantly tried to boot Windows as a Mac just right after Clover just scuffed Windows bootmanager aside
[04:27] <mutte> Oh, youre also on Telegram. I didn't noticed. Have I given you a whole bag of notifications too now?
 before trying to following the instructions on that website, run this command: sudo parted -l | pastebinit
 I want to see if sdb1 is recognized as a /boot/efi partition
[04:28] <mutte> Am I removing a hook with that?
 No, that does not change anything, just shows drive layouts. i.e. here is mine: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NbMkMbhTmt/
[04:30] <mutte> I've written it down so I won't forget. I have been up all night so I'm not sure if I'm gonna do it without some sleep first
[04:32] <mutte> You have a pinch more space than I
 Here is my fstab file: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WhkNt9kVvw/
[04:35] <mutte> Thats a handsome one that
[04:35] <mutte> The last line in mine, does that have anything to do with a USB stick?
[04:36] <mutte> Somehow Ubuntu started reeeeally hating on one of mine so It's unusable still. I might have fixed it yesterday I have'nt checked yet
 note, I have my /home on it's own partition.  Thus, if I ever accidentally mess up my installation, I can re-install my root "/" partition without formatting my home partition.  Thus I don't lose my setup.
[04:38] <mutte> I had that as well at first but the layout of the filesystem will all sym links and quirks I tend to mess it up that a complete reinstall dosent matter :D
 I also  mount other drive  on /data (configured during install) to point to my spinning hard drive.
[04:39] <mutte> I use my mechanical drive as backup for Windows
 So yes, I recommend you remove all partition from all drives, and decide how you want to access each drive.
 BUT ONLY kill partition if all important information is backed up elsewhere.
[04:41] <mutte> Yeah I need to empty the next to last partition on sda first and I'm abit afraid of making the files inaccessible from windows after that
[04:42] <mutte> I'm afraid the ownership won't be right
[04:42] <mutte> I was thinking about making a boot USB with an OS indepentant file manager of some sort and move the files
[04:43] <mutte> Ubuntu has made me paranoid XD
[05:03] <mutte> @DarinMiller Thanks for your help. I have som stuff to do but I'll pop in later
 You are very welcome.  Not sure I helped very much, but hopefully  we will patch up your setup as needed.
[05:07] <mutte> @DarinMiller I'ts gonna be fine. :D
[06:02] <lordievader> Good morning
 morning
 /names@IrcsomeBot
 'morning
 ''morning
[06:38] <enyc> curious
 The discover in the ppa now has the upstream patch that allegedly fixes this (re @gilbertoferreira: Hi there! Anyone else with this "problem"? Everything is up to date, but the discover notification is there in the corner and doesn't come out. Kde 5.22.1)
[10:01] <bittin> hey :)
[10:02] <bittin> test
[10:02] <bittin> thats better
[10:15] <enyc> bittin: found new server?
[10:15] <bittin> enyc: testing Konversation so was changing settings
[10:16] <enyc> bittin: aah ok
[10:16] <bittin> decided to try out Kubuntu during https://akademy.kde.org/ instead of https://awesomewm.org/ on Ubuntu for 2 weeks
[10:16] <enyc> alas many kubuntu or kde people are stuck in  old freenode irc ;-(
[10:16] <enyc> wondering if all kde pointers updated etc
[10:17] <enyc> bittin: in particular, does ubuntu-provided "Konversation" package still offer irc.freenode.net by default at all ????
[10:17] <bittin> enyc: nope RikMills has fixed that :)
[10:17] <enyc> bittin: also SRU to existing LTS releases?
[10:17] <bittin> thats a good question i am on impish so not sure but i think so, let me find the bug
[10:18] <enyc> bittin: cheked on packages.ubuntu.com -- seems so
[10:18] <RikMills> LP: #1929378
[10:18] <bittin> enyc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konversation/+bug/1929378
[10:18] <enyc>   * Switch default network to irc.libera.chat (LP: #1929378)
[10:18] <enyc> yes
[10:18] <enyc> found it =)
[10:18] <bittin> so Focal, Groovy, Hirsute and Impish
[10:18] <enyc> but not bionic-updates [!!]
[10:19] <enyc> 18.04LTS not uncommon out there
[10:19] <RikMills> 18.04 is EOL for Kubuntu
[10:19] <enyc> RikMills: oooh interesting ok
[10:20] <RikMills> if someone wants to volunteer to fix anyway, that would be great
[10:20] <RikMills> especialy now since freenode 'died'
[10:21] <bittin> atleast they dropped my Freenode account for me
[10:21] <bittin> :D
[12:47] <BluesKaj> Hi all
 Yeah! This morning I get about 30 updates and after a reboot everything is ok. (re @RikMills: The discover in the ppa now has the upstream patch that allegedly fixes this)
 hello on Kubuntu 21.04 I can't turn off my notebook.
 ksmserver-logout-greeter crashing
 Any solution?
[13:19] <diogenes_> elmismomismo, try: systemctl poweroff
 Guys
 Someone resolved the problem of upgrade notifications in the new plasma?
 thanks but i want a solution to shut down, reboot from system not from terminal (re @IrcsomeBot: <diogenes_> elmismomismo, try: systemctl poweroff)
 The discover dev made a fix, and this has been applied to our packages. (re @amieltransman: Someone resolved the problem of upgrade notifications in the new plasma?)
[13:26] <mparillo> I believe there was a patch to Discover for upgrade notifications.
 I will check it
 Thanks
[15:01] <user217_> Hello. I get 'stegsolve' running before I try to run most of my apps. Is anyway to fix this ?
 7PH4
[16:58] <bittin> KDE is having a Super Tuxkart evening in 33 minutes