[09:10] <cjwatson> synapt: This is something where you'd really need to talk to the owner of that PPA.  We just provide the hosting.
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> Hi guys. There is a guy on Launchpad.net spamming a million duplicate questions for making a kernel. Can you please attend. It's getting a bit tedious. He's made probably.... 10-15 identical questions
[10:07] <AlexC> Hi, how can I recover a lost LP account apart from email password reset? (the email address does not exist anymore sadly)
[10:09] <cjwatson> ActionParsnip: if you read logs, please don't just join here and immediately quit without providing details
[10:09] <cjwatson> AlexC: You can email details to feedback@launchpad.net and we can see what we can do, but fair warning, it may not be possible
[10:10] <AlexC> yeah possible, I cannot prove probably in any way that is me apart from my name
[10:10] <AlexC> kek
[10:10] <AlexC> at least I can prove it with my ID or something lol
[10:10] <cjwatson> Right, I'm afraid with six million users we can't assume that e.g. names are unique
[10:12] <AlexC> meh
[13:13] <synapt> cjwatson: Yeah I poked them by email, they said launchpad doesn't allow preferential version selection, only the latest release period.  They pointed me over to cloudsmith for specific package referencing
[13:13] <synapt> apparently that refusal was just resulting in misleading/goofy errors from apt
[13:14] <synapt> or not cause it's still throwing the same errors even from cloudsmith lol, ugh
[13:36] <cjwatson> That sounds like they may be inappropriately blaming their tools ...
[15:00] <synapt> cjwatson: That I dunno, this is what they said; "Launchpad is an opinionated platform, it won't let you install something else than the last version of the package."
[15:01] <cjwatson> synapt: While that's true, they still need to provide latest versions of things that work together :)
[15:01] <cjwatson> Which it sounds like isn't the case right now ... 
[15:01] <cjwatson> This isn't generally a valid excuse for upgrade breakage
[15:01] <synapt> They might be, I think the main issue is we're using a specific rabbitmq version pulled from a separate repository, and that rabbitmq had dependency restrictions of v21 through v23, which I guess was the issue.
[15:03] <synapt> Cause it would see the v24 being forced in and go "Hey we don't support that" lol, and apt was just interpreting it kinda badly.  Or maybe the repo wasn't giving a proper error.  But apparently they changed repos in teh documentation anyways, docs all point to cloudsmith now, guess that's the new medium since bintray shut down
[15:12] <cjwatson> They could also do this with Launchpad by copying things between multiple PPAs
[15:12] <cjwatson> Each one would need to be self-consistent, but they aren't limited to just one
[15:12] <cjwatson> It's just a different model