| callmepk | good morning | 02:18 |
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| donfede | o/ | 02:53 |
| jibel | Good morning | 05:21 |
| bittin | good morning | 05:54 |
| didrocks | good morning | 05:59 |
| jibel | salut didrocks | 06:17 |
| jibel | hi bittin | 06:17 |
| didrocks | hey jibel | 06:17 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:19 |
| oSoMoN | happy Friday! | 06:19 |
| ricotz | good morning everyone | 06:19 |
| oSoMoN | hey ricotz | 06:20 |
| didrocks | hey oSoMoN | 06:21 |
| didrocks | morning ricotz | 06:21 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 06:22 |
| jibel | salut oSoMoN ricotz | 06:27 |
| callmepk | hi jibel bittin didrocks oSoMoN ricotz | 06:30 |
| didrocks | hey hey callmepk | 06:31 |
| jibel | Hi callmepk | 06:35 |
| ricotz | heya oSoMoN didrocks jibel callmepk | 06:48 |
| oSoMoN | salut jibel, hey callmepk | 06:58 |
| seb128 | goood morning deskopers | 07:46 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 07:49 |
| seb128 | didrocks, lut, bon vendredi ! en forme ? | 07:49 |
| laney | \0\ | 08:02 |
| seb128 | hey laney, happy friday! how are you? | 08:05 |
| ricotz | hello seb128 laney | 08:07 |
| seb128 | hey ricotz, happy friday! how is it going for you? | 08:08 |
| seb128 | ricotz, oh, just saw your libreoffice upload, nice to see that gcc-8 workarounds the armhf issue | 08:09 |
| laney | hahahaHAHAHAH | 08:09 |
| laney | next we'll be bundling a snapshot of gcc | 08:09 |
| seb128 | :) | 08:10 |
| laney | that's not entirely a joke really | 08:10 |
| bittin | :D | 08:10 |
| seb128 | I'm sure Matthias is going to be pleased with that solution :p | 08:10 |
| laney | we can't just keep rolling back compilers | 08:10 |
| laney | because that bug isn't being worked | 08:10 |
| laney | hoepfully we can sort out some armhf access for ricotz | 08:10 |
| seb128 | right, let's see if we can escalade to foundations to get the gcc issue investigated | 08:11 |
| seb128 | or that | 08:11 |
| laney | both :p | 08:11 |
| laney | also hey and happy friday! | 08:11 |
| ricotz | seb128, thanks, yeah, this is clearly a workaround | 08:12 |
| ricotz | without a proper way to debug I don't have a better solution :( | 08:13 |
| seb128 | ricotz, do we have a testcase smaller than 'rebuild libreoffice'? | 08:14 |
| ricotz | what bugs me is that this doesn't happen in debian where the toolchain is kind of identical | 08:14 |
| ricotz | seb128, a minimized package is possible and you can see the failure in the build log | 08:15 |
| ricotz | test failures are only fatal on amd64 and arm64 | 08:15 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128, morning laney | 08:16 |
| seb128 | ricotz, if you could get a smaller testcase I could try to help doing a gcc bisect | 08:18 |
| ricotz | I assume armhf won't be dropped any time soon, like i386? ;P | 08:18 |
| laney | 早上好 oSoMoN | 08:18 |
| seb128 | it's just that if the test case is building gcc + libreoffice then it's going to take a day for each iteration | 08:18 |
| seb128 | not likely no | 08:18 |
| seb128 | and even if it was this cycle that's impacting SRU to older releases now | 08:19 |
| seb128 | weird that it doesn't happen in Debian though | 08:19 |
| seb128 | do we have difference of toolchain default flags? maybe we could try to see if one of those creates the issue? | 08:20 |
| ricotz | that would be a question for do_ko | 08:20 |
| ricotz | or how different are the armhf builders | 08:20 |
| sil2100 | ricotz, seb128: hey! Sorry for not getting to you yesterday - let's maybe try going the Updates-only binary-copy-from-bileto approach for now | 08:21 |
| sil2100 | But ultimately I'd just love figuring out what is busted in the new gcc-9 version | 08:22 |
| ricotz | sil2100, hi, the mentioned workaround is using gcc-8 on armhf which would work for hirsute too, if that is acceptable for a SRU | 08:22 |
| ricotz | sil2100, correct, I would have hoped that there might be a suspicious commit, which targets armhf, in the upstream log of that gcc update | 08:26 |
| sil2100 | hm, I don't know about that, I'm always a bit weary as gcc-8 is in universe | 08:31 |
| didrocks | seb128: ça va :) | 08:31 |
| didrocks | hey laney | 08:31 |
| laney | おはようございます didrocks! | 08:34 |
| didrocks | laney: pronounce it 'aaaaaaaaaas' :) | 08:37 |
| laney | :D | 08:38 |
| GunnarHj | Good morning all! | 08:41 |
| GunnarHj | Wondering if someone can shed some light on a "missing build on" issue. | 08:41 |
| GunnarHj | https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#ibus-keyman | 08:41 |
| GunnarHj | Short story: | 08:41 |
| GunnarHj | - Previous version: "Architecture: any", but s390x failed. | 08:41 |
| GunnarHj | - Now the maintainer stated all Debian's official archs except for s390x. | 08:41 |
| GunnarHj | - It complains since riscv64 built successfully previously and is now excluded. | 08:41 |
| GunnarHj | I can probably fix it by adding riscv64 to the "Architecture:" list (or return to "any"). | 08:41 |
| GunnarHj | But are there other options? Would removing the present riscv64 build from impish help? | 08:41 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, hey, that would be an option but we are going to want a working desktop on riscv64 maybe at some point if that package is useful I would just ask if Debian would be wanting to add riscv64 archs list | 08:44 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: I'm sure the latter is an option, and will do so. Just curious about how it works. Would it have possible to add some kind of exception to britney? | 08:47 |
| GunnarHj | s/have/have been/ | 08:47 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, no, but it would be up to any archive admin to delete the riscv64 binaries from impish (if there is no rdepends blocking removal) | 08:48 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: I see. Thanks for your advice! | 08:48 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, I could do that for now if you want to see it unblocked but please still try to get riscv64 added | 08:49 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: I'll do. The package is team maintained, so I can do a team upload. | 08:50 |
| laney | jamesh: do you know offhand if xdp_portal_set_wallpaper() works for us? | 08:57 |
| laney | nautilus has optional support to use it, wondering whether to enable that | 08:57 |
| laney | would require MIRing libportal ... | 08:57 |
| jamesh | laney: I'll have a look after the meeting | 09:05 |
| laney | ack | 09:05 |
| laney | I think it's alright to keep it off for now, the current way should be OK | 09:05 |
| jamesh | laney: wouldn't that only make sense for Nautilus running within a sandbox? | 09:06 |
| laney | It's mainly for that | 09:07 |
| laney | just that they enabled it by default, so if it works we could build with it too | 09:07 |
| jamesh | there has definitely been some motion towards using xdg-desktop-portal for unconfined apps, as it provides desktop-neutral APIs | 09:09 |
| jamesh | e.g. Firefox doing screen sharing on Wayland | 09:10 |
| jamesh | I'd imagine the xdg-desktop-portal-gtk backend should be fine for our GNOME install | 09:11 |
| laney | thanks | 09:13 |
| laney | I'll turn it off for now. If they stop having 'traditional' fallbacks then we'll need to reconsider | 09:13 |
| jamesh | It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to bring in libportal. IIRC, most of the xdg-desktop-portal tests aren't built if it isn't available. | 09:14 |
| laney | we can certainly add build-depends, runtime depends in main would require a MIR | 09:18 |
| jamesh | I'm pretty sure xdg-desktop-portal's libportal deps don't leak past the tests | 09:23 |
| jamesh | laney: so thinking more about it, Nautilus's use of libportal probably aligns closer with e.g. Firefox's screen sharing use: they want a cross desktop API to set the wallpaper so that they don't need to support N desktop environments | 09:36 |
| jamesh | laney: xdg-desktop-portal-gtk should definitely handle our default Ubuntu desktop, so it is probably makes sense to enable the Nautilus code (if it is an optional feature) | 09:37 |
| laney | jamesh: good point. the fallback code is writing to a GSetting so it is GNOME specific | 09:40 |
| laney | I'd prefer not to block the update on the MIR but we can file it and then enable once that's all approved | 09:40 |
| seb128 | laney, I can do the MIR paperwork if you wish | 09:41 |
| jamesh | so if you wanted to run Nautilus on KDE Plasma, it would be able to set the background in the appropriate way via xdg-desktop-portal-kde | 09:41 |
| laney | seb128: sure | 09:41 |
| laney | it's the approving side that might take some time though :p not as long as in the past with the #newandimprovedmirteam | 09:42 |
| jamesh | I wouldn't be surprised to see more apps use libportal as time goes by, so it doesn't seem like wasted effort | 09:44 |
| laney | indeed | 09:44 |
| laney | alright we have a plan! | 09:44 |
| seb128 | laney, jamesh, the MIR might get blocked on https://github.com/flatpak/libportal/issues/33 to get resolved | 09:47 |
| ubottu | Issue 33 in flatpak/libportal "Is the API/ABI stable?" [Open] | 09:47 |
| gitlab-bot | flatpak issue 33 in libportal "Is the API/ABI stable?" [Open] | 09:47 |
| seb128 | that's the reason Debian didn't move it out of experimental | 09:47 |
| jamesh | seb128: ah. I hadn't realised that. | 09:49 |
| seb128 | also no tests which the MIR team isn't going to like | 09:52 |
| jamesh | seb128: the tests in xdg-desktop-portal are effectively libportal tests too | 09:54 |
| seb128 | jamesh, they are not part of the libportal build though so wouldn't catch a regression in an update | 09:54 |
| jamesh | any tests in libportal that depended on xdg-desktop-portal would represent a circular dependency | 09:54 |
| jamesh | I'm not sure what the best option here is | 09:55 |
| seb128 | ok, opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libportal/+bug/1932485 | 09:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1932485 in libportal (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libportal" [Undecided, New] | 09:55 |
| seb128 | unsure if we should wait for the API stability question to be resolved before subscribing ubuntu-mir though | 09:55 |
| seb128 | laney, ^ opinion? | 09:55 |
| seb128 | jamesh, xdg-desktop-portal does have its tests set up as an autopkgtest but it doesn't depends on libportal? I'm unsure why the depends is not there, the tests do use libportal | 09:58 |
| jamesh | seb128: because we configure xdg-desktop-portal to not build with libportal | 09:59 |
| jamesh | (because it isn't in main) | 09:59 |
| seb128 | ah | 09:59 |
| seb128 | alright, so if it's promoted and we enable the option then the autopkgtest should cover libportal | 09:59 |
| laney | The -tests package could depend on it; that is in universe | 09:59 |
| seb128 | which would block migration from a buggy package | 09:59 |
| seb128 | the reason is probably that we sync from debian and libportal is not in unstable for the reason mentioned before | 10:00 |
| laney | if someone wanted to try a build with libportal turned on and check the Depends only ends up on x-d-p-tests, we could do that in experimental | 10:00 |
| jamesh | presumably we could enable libportal support in xdg-desktop-portal now | 10:00 |
| seb128 | let me try | 10:00 |
| jamesh | as the test binaries end up in the xdg-desktop-portal-tests package, which is in universe | 10:01 |
| laney | It's probably OK for those two since they'll be developed closely together anyway | 10:01 |
| laney | but for random other packages I'd be less confident | 10:01 |
| laney | (in terms of API) | 10:01 |
| seb128 | anyone upstream we know that we could ping to get a reply to the github issue? | 10:01 |
| jamesh | and I'd be more confident in main xdg-desktop-portal package if the extra tests are built and run | 10:01 |
| seb128 | bah, so the package has a profile to build with libportal | 10:13 |
| seb128 | $ DEB_BUILD_PROFILES=pkg.libportal.enable dpkg-buildpackage | 10:13 |
| seb128 | xdg-desktop-portal I mean | 10:13 |
| seb128 | but tests seem to hang? or taking ages | 10:14 |
| seb128 | it's blocked on PASS: test-doc-portal 4 /db/create_docs for like 5 minutes now | 10:15 |
| laney | :( | 10:16 |
| seb128 | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TydQJdBdHy/ | 10:20 |
| seb128 | in the journal | 10:20 |
| seb128 | kernel problem? | 10:20 |
| jamesh | seb128: looks like there's some activity on the libportal bug | 10:38 |
| seb128 | 👍 | 10:39 |
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| seb128 | new nautilus \o/ | 11:19 |
| KGB-0 | nautilus upstream/latest ae9da8a Iain Lane * pushed 257 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3a3aU | 11:19 |
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| seb128 | oSoMoN, sorry I only saw your ping from yesterday late ... what was the changes in gedit you asked about? | 11:22 |
| KGB-0 | nautilus Iain Lane 244926 * commented merge request !10 * https://deb.li/3k3XM | 11:23 |
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| seb128 | oSoMoN, oh, probably require to update libtepl which isn't used anymore now? | 11:35 |
| seb128 | in which case yes we should probably wait for a 41 tarball | 11:35 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, yes, that was my thinking | 12:32 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, +1 | 12:33 |
| seb128 | I just saw the trello comments | 12:33 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, hey, would you be interested to do the g-t/vte updates, or at least merge the current debian versions? | 13:03 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Sure, I can do it if it can wait until sometimes next week. | 13:07 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, no hurry, thanks | 13:07 |
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