| sixwheeledbeast | Ctrl+Alt+Delete and then Enter should be shutdown | 07:35 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | without you have the menu option with a 60 sec timer, i assume you have no display then? | 07:36 |
| enyc | uerr.. freenode is filing with trolls and chaos | 12:29 |
| enyc | https://ubuntu-mate.org/irc/ still points to wrong network, there was a git change waiting to go through | 12:29 |
| enyc | though i'd warn you again as #freenode failing to deal with #ubuntu drug talk etc etc chaos ensuing | 12:29 |
| TrechNex | The whole situation with Freenode is a mess tbh. Hopefully once the dust settles libera.chat will be the community's new home :) | 12:45 |
| TrechNex | Also if any devs are reading, thank you for making Ubuntu MATE happen. As someone who felt a bit lost when the Unity vs GNOME Shell thing started, I'm kicking myself that I didn't try this distro earlier | 12:47 |
| enyc | TrechNex: yes I liked gnome2, then saw MATE useful, LinuxMint MATE is popular... | 12:56 |
| enyc | TrechNex: interestingly, these days, XFCE does well and Cinnamon can be set to have traditional MATE-style task-bars etc. | 12:57 |
| enyc | makes me quesition what niche MATE good for specifically | 12:57 |
| TrechNex | tbh the alternative for me is running GNOME in "classic" mode, which I do on my paid work machine. But I am given to wonder how long that will be maintained for :D | 13:02 |
| TrechNex | enyc I think there is value in not having to configure things yourself, and it being set up the way you like it "out of the box". | 13:07 |
| TrechNex | I did find the software boutique a bit hit or miss though. It'd be good to see that install applications as snaps instead of trying to set up third party repos | 13:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | software boutique is now a snap. TBH if you want snaps just use snapcraft or whatever. | 13:09 |
| TrechNex | Fair. I install things on the command line anyway :D - I'm also using 20.04 LTS, so may be slightly behind | 13:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I don't want snaps so the less of them the better. | 13:10 |
| enyc | TrechNex: that makes sense.... | 16:24 |
| * enyc mutters about https://ubuntu-mate.org/irc/ given all the freenode-trolling today -- change been put in but not processed yet ;-( | 16:25 | |
| Mekaneck | enyc: really... who still cares about what's happening on bloody freenode? Let go and move on.... | 19:05 |
| enyc | Mekaneck: maybe so but the page is not moved on | 19:06 |
| enyc | there is a change submitted in fgitu or wahtever but not gone through | 19:06 |
| Mekaneck | have some more patience or get involved to help editing websites | 19:07 |
| Mekaneck | nagging about it all the time doesn't get you anywhere nor does it improve things. The time you spend writing here you could help out elsewhere, imho... | 19:08 |
| superkuh | I have the weirdest issues with my "trash" on ubuntu mate when I have NFS mounts mounted. If I delete files one one Ubuntu MATE computer they end up shown in the Trash bin on my old Ubuntu 10.04 gnome2. I can't do anything with them when they get there, like restore. And they aren't "really" there, I can't pull them out, but they get listed and I have to 'empty' the second machines trash to get rid of them. | 21:28 |
| superkuh | That is, I delete something on a HDD in machine one (ubuntu mate) and they end up in the trash on machine two (ubuntu 10.04 gnome2). | 21:28 |
| superkuh | .Trash-1000 exists in the root of all the HDD on machine 1 and has all file permissions set right. | 21:29 |
| superkuh | It's gotta be some weird NFS thing. | 21:29 |
| enyc | Mekaneck: oh i've redirected a lot of people lately and in need of a permission to update some wiki pages now requested =) | 22:21 |
| enyc | superkuh: wow I remember having 10.04 gnome2 for some time it was a nice time in system ... but not supported any more tbh | 22:22 |
| superkuh | Yep. I still use it on one computer because lots of software can't be feasibly run on newer systems. And the software that can has become worse (like gtk3 removing features). | 22:24 |
| enyc | superkuh: why not make that into a chroot on other systems? | 22:31 |
| enyc | so the particular programs can run in the chroot with same homedir bind mounted into chroot | 22:31 |
| enyc | superkuh: btw -- what software has this incompatibility ? | 22:32 |
| superkuh | Or, I can just keep things working bare metal and build new computers with modern OSes (what I do). | 22:32 |
| superkuh | gtk1/2 stuff, gnu radio builds, things that use features of older glibc, etc, etc. Most of my software isn't from repos but bits of code I found online and compiled over the years. | 22:32 |
| superkuh | I do build new machines and attempt to run old software and most of the time it, or my competence, is not up to the task of forwards porting. | 22:33 |
| superkuh | Let's just say it's a matter of taste. | 22:33 |
| superkuh | Some day I'm gonna figure out this weird trash sharing though. | 22:34 |
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