[00:00] <Guest4219> on this pc yes, i thought i did a few years ago, but something remained that is now causing acronis to think it's time to try fix something that isn't broken
[00:01] <Guest4219> the disk that ubuntu was on has been removed long ago, it was a samsung ssd, and i had windows on a samsung nvme disk, and grub as loader
[00:01] <Guest4219> when ubuntu is installed, on uefi system, does it insert anything into my efi firmware?
[00:02] <Guest4219> i can't wrap my head around why i would be dropped to grub> command line now, two or three years later
[00:03] <Guest4219> i only uncovered this because i was having issues (unrelated to this) with windows registry and wanted to restore my system
[00:03] <toddc> Guest4219:   assuming uefi system boot to a ubuntu installer -Try ubuntu-gparted-delete UEFI partition leaving it unformated shut down reboot to MS windows intaller and do repair
[00:04] <toddc> Guest4219:  been a while since i did it but that is how I did for customer a year ago as I recall
[00:05] <akik> toddc: no. why do you suggest him to delete the uefi partition?
[00:05] <akik> it can be used by windows too
[00:06] <Guest4219> no worries about that
[00:06] <Guest4219> i want everything be cleaned
[00:06] <Guest4219> i have everything in my acronis backup
[00:06] <Guest4219> but acronis refuses to work because of what has been left over on the disk from previous installs
[00:06] <toddc> akik: yes it can but that may be the reason acronis is complaning
[00:07] <Guest4219> exactly my thought as well (or it may be complaining that it can no longer locate grub but does locate grub efi loader)
[00:08] <Guest4219> i'm not going anywhere with this... i'm afraid... i will reinstate ubuntu, just so i can get back grub 2 in a good working order
[00:09] <Guest4219> then i will use acronis bootable media and hopefully it will be satisfied and let me recover windows disk from backup disk
[00:09] <toddc> I have left uefi grub and removed linux in the past but some peoaple just want windows back as it was installed   --I do not have a windows machine nor want one
[00:09] <toddc> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1123089/uninstall-ubuntu-dual-boot
[00:10] <Guest4219> (overwriting ubuntu of course in the process)
[00:11] <Guest4219> ubuntu or windows, at the end of the day they are all machines, and i'm happy as long as they do what they are supposed to
[00:12] <Guest4219> signing off from my ubuntu machine... thank you guys for exchanging ideas with me!
[00:13] <Guest4219> i will do some more testing, i know this will work and my backup is not corrupted (even acronis says so when i run the validation test), i just have to overcome the grub hurdle
[00:14] <srv> thats why i prefer to have my linux machines in a vm and my windows host intact  happy with my linux vm's as with my hwindows host machine :)
[00:23] <Sven_vB> hi! I'm using Ubuntu focal on a LENOVO 81CY/LNVNB161216 with Intel Corporation HD Graphics 500 (rev 0b). VLC seems to decode video on the CPU rather than on the CPU. #videolan says I might be lacking the proper drivers. how can I install them?
[00:23] <Sven_vB> *than on the GPU
[00:24] <Sven_vB> they also said that on Fedora the packages would be libva and libva-intel-driver, but my apt cannot find them
[00:27] <rbasak> I don't know anything about it, but Ubuntu Focal has vainfo and libva2 packages that look equivalent to what you're looking for.
[00:27] <Sven_vB> thanks!
[00:27] <rbasak> Maybe you can install vainfo and then run "vainfo" to get more information about your libva status.
[00:27] <Sven_vB> yeah I'll do that
[00:32] <Sven_vB> that worked, partially. libva2 and libva-x11-2 were installed already. vainfo was installed, and its error output indeed suggests further packages I'll try and install.
[00:33] <Bashing-om> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras focal | Sven_vB
[00:33] <rbasak> https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/libva2 has some suggestions
[00:34] <Sven_vB> ubuntu-restricted-extras was installed already
[00:35] <Sven_vB> nice. vainfo now reports "Driver version: Intel i965 driver for Intel(R) Broxton - 2.4.0" and exits with sucess (0)
[00:35] <Sven_vB> thanks!
[01:35] <svm_invictvs> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/systemd/systemd-timesyncd_245.4-4ubuntu3.6_amd64.deb  404  Not Found
[01:35] <svm_invictvs> um
[01:35] <svm_invictvs> Is Ubuntu having downtime issues right now?
[01:36] <svm_invictvs> Trying to do an apt-get update in a docker container.
[01:38] <sarnold> svm_invictvs: have you done an apt update recently? this looks like the ...3.6 version was replaced with ...3.7 version around two days ago https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+publishinghistory
[01:38] <svm_invictvs> Ah, okay
[01:38] <svm_invictvs> sarnold, It appears that's missing from my Dockerfile
[01:39] <sarnold> svm_invictvs: aha, good, good, try adding in an apt update just before you apt upgrade, that'll probably do the trick
[03:00] <user_> how can i mount a FAT32 usb stick *not* read only ?
[03:03] <tomreyn> user_: the file system is probably marked as unclean (dirty bit set). you will then need to run windows chkdsk or (less preferably) ubuntu's ntfsfix on it.
[03:04] <tomreyn> user_: sorry, those were instructions for ntfs, not fat32.
[03:06] <tomreyn> user_: the easiest way to mount a fat32 usb stick as writable would be to use udisks2 / gio mount for it. they should mount it as r/w by default.
[03:07] <sarnold> I'd hope a quick mount -tfat32 -orw /dev/whatever /mnt/wherever  would do the trick
[03:08] <sarnold> but I've not actually tried to do that in many years..
[04:22] <HN> Hi, how to enable interface on this VM ? https://pastebin.com/FDfjNMU9 I'm getting error to start the VM due to no interface available, the interface vnet0, vnet1 , vnet2 gone missing after reboot, it's works before reboot.
[05:30] <Liblx> morning, i am using libreoffice calc for working with sheets/tables but it uses lots of memory here for just some cells. is there an alternative using less memory? it could be simple. thanks.
[05:35] <gry> Liblx, there's gnu octave, calligrasheets, gnumeric, pyspread
[05:36] <Liblx> wow, thanks, gry. i'll check them!
[05:40] <wez> gry is the best <3
[05:41] <Liblx> it seems so. :)
[06:01] <Liblx> thanks, every tool has it's special features - it seems i work through them all, gry. ;)
[06:16] <fang64> I'm having a curious problem of getting "Conntection Refused" from ppa.launchpad.net even more weirdly using curl -4 results in the same message. It's almost like I am being blocked, I have tried it at other places and it seems to work...
[06:18] <fang64> Does ppa.launchpad.net actively ban IPs? I haven't hammered it (positive of this) so it's a bit confusing to me to be denied...
[06:25] <gry> Liblx: nice :-) welcome to #ubuntu
[06:34] <Liblx> :D
[06:40] <toddc> fang64: works for me ??
[06:41] <Alabalistic> fang64_:  is it possible you use https only is some wierd way
[06:41] <Alabalistic> nop forget that
[06:42] <fang64_> ya I'm not sure
[06:42] <toddc> fang64_: have done a a traceroute? to see whwere it is blocked at
[06:42] <toddc> have you done
[06:42] <fang64_> toddc: that's even weirder I can send a pastebin
[06:42] <fang64_> it shows it making it to it, so that part is real weird
[06:44] <fang64_> toddc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8xJN83fzP7/
[06:44] <Alabalistic> fang64_:  where is your location, can it be some geo blocking you, I'm just brainstorming
[06:45] <fang64_> Alabalistic: I'm in Charlotte, North Carolina
[06:45] <fang64_> I doubt that'd be an issue :D
[06:46] <fang64> I have been able to test on a remote machine and use it as a proxy, but I shouldn't have to do that.
[06:46] <toddc> I looked at your trace it does hit canonical but 1 sec
[06:49] <fang64> I am on a dual stack network IPv4/IPv6 but I've messed around to see if disabiling IPv6 temporarily fixes anything it seems it doesn't matter
[06:49] <toddc> fang64: it may be internal canoncal or a return block but I have no idea how to test a blank return
[06:50] <Alabalistic> lastly I had problem with resolve.conf and was not able to update my server, Prior I changed my ips from 192.xxx to 10.10.xxx
[06:50] <fang64> you would think Connection Refused would be a ban
[06:50] <fang64> Alabalistic: My internal network is 10.10.0.0/16 actually
[06:51] <fang64> weirdly coincidental I suppose
[06:51] <Alabalistic> cat /etc/resolve.conf
[06:51] <Alabalistic> and check your nameserver
[06:52] <fang64> it's systemd-resolver
[06:52] <fang64> er systemd-resolved*
[06:52] <toddc> Alabalistic: normally resolve.conf will only affect finding a name outgoing not return only
[06:53] <fang64> yup and when I do a nslookup whether it's resolved or other name servers it's the same ip
[06:53] <fang64> 91.189.95.83 <-- this address is what returns
[06:54] <fang64> at least in IPv4 land, that's why I am thinking it's not liking my current IP
[06:54] <fang64> I did try and force my modem to release my current IP, ISP wont give me another one atm
[06:55] <wez> fang64: Change your MAC :)
[06:56] <fang64> wez: I don't believe I can do that on my modem :3
[06:56] <Alabalistic> is there some vpn
[06:57] <wez> fang64: :(
[06:57] <fang64> Alabalistic: No VPN here just raw connection to the internet
[06:57] <fang64> admittedly this IP did change this week, maybe I got unlucky and someone hammered Ubuntu PPA address from one of these addresses?
[06:57] <wez> fang64: Can you install a custom OS on it like OpenWRT, or whatever its successor is called.
[06:58] <toddc> fang64: I would have to assume there is a filtering blacklist where ever there servers are but no idea how to find that
[06:58] <fang64> wez: Well as far as the router goes it's running OpenWRT, but I've tried to directly attach to the modem.
[06:58] <fang64> getting the same issue :C
[06:58] <Alabalistic> good luck,
[06:59] <fang64> I'm suspicious someone used this IP maybe to hammer the ip address? It's just speculation at this point I don't know if opening up a ticket would help :D
[06:59] <Flannel> fang64: You could open a ticket with canonical to see if they can't get it sorted out, email rt@ubuntu.com
[06:59] <fang64> maybe whenever it changes again it'll start working...
[06:59] <toddc> fang64:  see mine shows a good return    https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XvnmgSBPQf/
[07:00] <fang64> ya that seems correct to me
[07:01] <toddc> that is the issue if someone that had your ip did bad things might try to get anothor IP
[07:01] <fang64> unfortunately spectrum isn't handing me anything different even if I force it to release it from the modem. I suspect it must be a time thing.
[07:02] <fang64> what's weird to me is I am not getting IPv6 connectivity to it
[07:02] <fang64> I have a huge block /56 and pretty much free reign
[07:03] <toddc> fang64: problem is finding who is blocking and where along the hops it could be a geo block local location block ISP ect
[07:03] <fang64> toddc: but I can get to launchpad.net :D
[07:04] <fang64> I can't get to the sub-domain
[07:06] <toddc> fang64: launchpad is a big place yes normally only a domain is blocked but there is no shortage of mistypes or missed-ideas?
[07:07] <fang64> toddc: I didn't explicitly create the PPA entries, I used the add-apt-repository to create them.
[07:07] <fang64> They were working up until I'd say Monday of this week, I just decided to chase it now, because the normal repositories were working.
[07:07] <fang64> I just thought it was real strange that all the ppa repos were "connection refused"
[07:08] <toddc> I have seen automated firewalls block sub domains based on unknown urls in its rules
[07:08] <fang64> when I run nslookup I get a resolution though
[07:08] <fang64> I have changed the DNS servers a few times just out of curiosity to see if it was some old cached entries in resolved but it's definitely not that
[07:11] <toddc> fang64: nslookup should be fine as is DNS those are all outgoing. you have a return issue. and unless you have odd firewall rules it likel out side your network
[07:12] <fang64> toddc: ya I don't have anything like that on the local network.
[07:29] <fang64> toddc: welp restarted modem, new IP and now it works =.=
[07:31] <toddc> fang64: go figure!! as long as it works
[07:31] <fang64> So I'm guessing it was banned, hopefully I don't get that IP again I initially was like I am not crazy am I?
[07:33] <toddc> fang64: it happens and there is more and more bad players out there so we can assume this will be more common
[07:37] <fang64> maybe we need a new mechanism to receive updates, although not sure what the solution is to that...
[07:38] <toddc> fang64: let us know if you find a better way to run the internet
[07:38] <fang64> toddc: I have antique ideas, I mean this is almost a perfect solution for OpenAFS but that's dying pretty hard these days.
[07:40] <toddc> fang64: mail dvd's and stay offline?  I will pass on that
[07:41] <fang64> toddc: subscription plans are a thing for food delivery why not for operating system updates :D
[08:22] <tekisui> hellow
[08:23] <tekisui> is there a handy try where i can smooth out screen tearing ?
[08:23] <toddc> tekisui: hi welcome
[08:23] <tekisui> i tried nvidia x server settings and many things
[08:23] <tekisui> hey toddc
[08:23] <tekisui> for the amd video card it was easy !
[08:23] <tekisui> this one has an intel processor i guess
[08:24] <tekisui> Geforce gt530
[08:25] <tekisui> or should i if i use the xorg driver the screen changes to 800x600
[08:27] <tekisui> perhaps i can get an amd video card
[08:27] <tekisui> gpu
[08:27] <tekisui> but i wonder does it wolk with intel ?
[08:29] <toddc> tekisui: Nvidia has a closed source driver the usually works best-- I am still not happy but it works ok  what OS and desktop UI?
[08:29] <tekisui> 18.04 lubuntu
[08:30] <tekisui> .5
[08:30] <toddc> i sec wil I look up the gui install for it
[08:30] <tekisui> is it antialiasing ?
[08:31] <tekisui> merci
[08:32] <toddc> Lubuntu has LXDE menu > Preferences > Additional Drivers.  It will offer you several driver options to test
[08:32] <tekisui> etc/X11 -> xorg.xonf use to work for amd
[08:32] <toddc> LXDE Menu -> Preference -> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers Tab
[08:33] <tekisui> should use the lagacy ?
[08:33] <tekisui> legacy
[08:33] <tekisui> there is a binairy also
[08:33] <tekisui> the xorg and the tested one i use now
[08:34] <toddc> amd is open source so that will be installed automaticly 1 sec wile I look at mine
[08:34] <tekisui> am useing intel with geforce
[08:34] <tekisui> ok
[08:34] <tekisui> nvidia
[08:37] <toddc> tekisui:   nvidia makes gforce video cards    I am using nvidia-driver-460 (proprietary,tested) but I am on gnome 20.04 with 3 monitors I have had issues but right now it seems fine
[08:37] <tekisui> :)
[08:38] <tekisui> did you do something for screen tearing ?
[08:39] <toddc> I had some a while ago very minor so I just waited for a new update and problem solved  it does have a lot to do with your monitor so keep that in mind
[08:40] <tekisui> ahh i see
[08:40] <tekisui> thanks
[08:40] <tekisui> sure these monochrome monitors where easier :)
[08:41] <toddc> tekisui: big problem is closed source we cannot change or do a lot with those drivers other than cross our fingers and test
[08:44] <tekisui> guess it could be firefox too
[08:45] <tekisui> Ceau
[09:02] <nikolam> Suddenly I can't start Teamviewer anymore...
[09:03] <nikolam> teamviewerd is active but it won't start. I am on 21.04 Xubuntu/Xfce
[09:09] <toddc> nikolam: working here on 20.04
[09:17] <Guest66> when i run BLKID i get output like UUID= and then some numbers and also PARTUUID=
[09:17] <Guest66> so disk and partition have 2 different UUID numbers then?
[09:18] <Guest66> the numbers differ i'm just surprised that there is more than one
[09:32] <HN> Hi, anyone know how to fix this issue ? https://pastebin.com/cq8aijdf
[09:41] <Chunkyz-RPi> HN, what OS? and what system?
[10:46] <mra90> How should I install new kernel from vmlinux file?
[10:51] <ThinkT510> mra90: typically you'd use the package manager to install a kernel from a repository
[10:54] <mra90> ThinkT510, so now way with bare vmlinux or bZimage ?
[10:54] <ThinkT510> why do you want to do it that way?
[10:56] <mra90> becaue it allows for easy backup of old kernel
[10:56] <mra90> just copy old vmlinux image
[10:56] <mra90> and the package way makes it all a lot more complicated
[10:57] <ThinkT510> managing kernels manually sounds more complicated to me
[10:58] <ThinkT510> you'd have to check yourself whenever you want to update
[10:58] <ThinkT510> you'd have to backup yourself manually
[10:59] <ThinkT510> if you're just copying and deleting files then what is to stop someone/something else from replacing your file and you end up with a compromised kernel?
[11:00] <ThinkT510> if you're adding software that uses kernel modules you'd need to remake the image manually
[11:00] <ThinkT510> packaging takes care of all that and adds security mechanisms in place
[11:42] <mra90> ThinkT510, they would need sudo for it
[11:50] <nikolam> toddc, I needed to uninstall then reinstall Teamviewer, probably I haven't been using it since update to 21.04, now it works again.
[12:03] <goddard> does linux have a graphical way to manage raid setups?
[12:20] <mra90> how to force dpkg to make the kernel I install a default one?!
[12:21] <mra90> What happens is I install some kernel version but it is probbaly older than the one I already have so grub boots the newer one instead
[12:39] <cxl> Hi all, is there a way to tell Ubuntu to not do cached writes to USB keys or memory cards? I find it very inconvenient that the copy dialog shows that it copies at 500MB/s to a slow USB key and then pretends it's done while slowly actually copying the files from the cache to the actual USB key in the background with no indication on the progress (and messing up with the ability to eject the device)
[12:41] <cxl> and more importantly: is it wise to disable caching?
[12:51] <ogra> cxl, this is actually the kernel and the mount options, you could try mounting such devices with the sync option (see "man mount") ... to try if that suits you
[12:51] <mra90> how to force dpkg to make the kernel I install a default one?!
[12:51] <mra90> What happens is I install some kernel version but it is probbaly older than the one I already have so grub boots the newer one instead
[12:55] <TJ-> mra90: generally, you interrupt GRUB at boot and choose the older kernel from the GRUB Submenus
[12:56] <TJ-> mra90: you can also add an option for grub.cfg to set the specific menuentry you wish to start
[12:58] <mra90> TJ-, I now these methods but I need a quick way since I wil need to reflash kernel XX times now
[12:59] <mra90> so I want build > copy > instal > reboot
[12:59] <TJ-> mra90: use the 2nd method then
[12:59] <mra90> well but then after each installation I would manually edit grub
[13:00] <mra90> to point to a different kernel image
[13:00] <TJ-> mra90: see https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/html_node/default.html#default
[13:02] <TJ-> mra90: you could also replace /etc/grub.d/10_linux (or edit it) to change the way menus are created, or possibly rename /etc/grub.d/41_custom to /etc/grub.d/05_custom and add a /boot/grub/custom.cfg with a static menuentry
[13:03] <TJ-> mra90: being 05_ it'd be included BEFORE the usual default entry but not sure if that'd cause problems for what 10_linux generates
[13:08] <mra90> TJ-, what I did is removed all kernels
[13:09] <mra90> and now each time I install new it will be takes as fresh right
[13:09] <TJ-> mra90: update-grub will add any kernel+initrd.img pairs it fins
[13:30] <ph88^> hi all ! what could i do about these apt errors and warnings ?  https://bpa.st/6HTA
[14:25] <VMGuy234> is there amd drivers for ubuntu 21.04
[14:26] <wez> Yes
[14:26] <VMGuy234> where
[14:26] <wez> but they are not called drivers
[14:26] <wez> VMGuy234: They come with Ubuntu
[14:26] <wez> in the Linux kernel
[14:26] <wez> It's a kenrel module
[14:26] <wez> kernel module,
[14:27] <wez> VMGuy234: There are propretary ones too
[14:28] <VMGuy234> im fine with the proprietary ones
[14:28] <VMGuy234> i kinda want them
[14:29] <wez> OK, there are PPAs and third party repos for it
[14:30] <VMGuy234> there is download but that only fr 20.04
[14:31] <VMGuy234> i learned hard way on 20.10
[14:51] <radix0> Is there an official upgrade guide to go from 20.04 to 21.04 or must I go through 20.10 first?
[14:53] <VMGuy234> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[14:54] <radix0> sorry, disregard. I had an assumption wrong.
[17:06] <mra90> how can I check which kernel driver exposes some file in user space?
[17:07] <mra90> like /sys/class/gpio for example
[17:10] <gneeriiloeepdeer> after upgrading to 21.04 some icons have disappeared from the desktop and trash icon won't change if I send files to it
[17:10] <gneeriiloeepdeer> how do I fix this?
[17:10] <gneeriiloeepdeer> I have to go in the trash to see the files and delete them
[17:17] <Guest92> hello
[17:19] <Guest92> how do i save some command output to usb flash drive when using ubuntu live usb?
[17:20] <Guest92> i want to do something like uname -r > uname-output.txt
[17:21] <Guest92> i tried to mount /cdrom but it said i can't write to it, it's read only
[17:22] <oerheks> indeed, there is no writable part on the usb
[17:23] <oerheks> there is a tool to reinstall the iso with a writable part .. https://www.linuxuprising.com/2019/03/create-persistent-storage-live-usb-with.html
[17:23] <Guest92> i also have external usb hdd, but how do i mount it when i can't make new files and folders?
[17:24] <oerheks> ext hdd .. depends what filesystem is on it
[17:24] <oerheks> fat32/ntfs would work OOTB
[17:24] <oerheks> open filemanager, last option; other location..
[17:24] <Guest92> ntfs
[17:28] <ioria> gneeriiloeepdeer, how did you upgrade ? fresh install or do-release-upgrade ?
[17:29] <gneeriiloeepdeer> ioria, sudo apt upgrade
[17:30] <ioria> gneeriiloeepdeer, sorry ? you can't change/upgrade to a new release with that cmd  (unless you edit sources.list)
[17:30] <gneeriiloeepdeer> let me find the command I used
[17:31] <Chunkyz-RPi> gneeriiloeepdeer, it should be in your bash history.
[17:31] <gneeriiloeepdeer> do-release-upgrade
[17:31] <ioria> ok
[17:31] <gneeriiloeepdeer> is that a fresh install?
[17:31] <ioria> gneeriiloeepdeer, sudo apt install --reinstall gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons
[17:31] <Chunkyz-RPi> no
[17:31] <gneeriiloeepdeer> oh
[17:31] <gneeriiloeepdeer> sorry
[17:31] <gneeriiloeepdeer> thanks
[17:35] <Guest92> oerheks: thank you! that worked well, i was able to mount it and save my command outputs to that
[17:35] <oerheks> Guest92, have fun!
[17:51] <mg_> Hello! For some reason my swap file doesnt get initiated when i boot- help?
[17:51] <mg_> "Failed to activate swap /swapfile" in one line, then "Dependency failed for Swap", repeats a bit and then boots
[17:51] <mg_> And there is a swapfile to begin with, fresh install, 2Gb
[17:51] <mra90> hmm weird -> when I do ll ../../../ I see a certain files & directories but when I do cd ../../../ && ll I see different files
[17:51] <mg_> 21.04 btw
[17:52] <mra90> it looks like ll behaves differently
[17:53] <tomreyn> mg_: is it listed when you run     cat /proc/swaps
[17:54] <tomreyn> mg_: how is it listed in /etc/fstab ?
[17:55] <tomreyn> mra90: that's to be expected on some file systems, such as sysfs
[17:56] <mg_> it isn't listed in cat, but it does have an entry in fstab ( /swapfile none swap 0 0)
[17:56] <mg_> forgot to @, sry
[17:56] <oerheks> mg_, sounds like you have a dirty filesystem with errors, that could explain this behaviour
[17:57] <mra90> tomreyn, its is ext4
[17:57] <mra90> but why would it be expected
[17:57] <mra90> I don't seea usecase
[17:57] <oerheks> run a fsck on that disk  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
[17:58] <mra90> oerheks, but do you admin it is wrong?
[17:58] <mra90> I mean the behaviour I see
[18:00] <oerheks> mra90, ?
[18:00] <oerheks> nut sure what ll does, what did you find?
[18:00] <tomreyn> mg_: did you manually add this to fstab, or was it added by the installer?
[18:00] <mra90> oerheks, as I said ll ../../ shows certain files
[18:00] <mra90> but when I do cd ../../ && ls I see DIFFEREWNT files oO
[18:01] <mra90> this is wrong
[18:01] <mra90> I would expect exact same files
[18:02] <oerheks> ll works in the present workdirectory, so your first command shows not the same folder?
[18:02] <oerheks> oh, and ll shos hidden files too
[18:02] <oerheks> c/shows
[18:03] <mg_> @tomreyn installer, i didnt touch anything and was wondering why it boots with errors
[18:03] <mra90> oerheks, yes but if I replace ls with ll this is the same
[18:03] <tomreyn> mg_: hmm, i guess you may need to check the systemd journal for more details
[18:04] <mra90> ll && ll ../../../ shows different things
[18:05] <mg_> @tomreyn What am i looking for there and how, except -p 0-7?
[18:05] <tomreyn> mra90: this doesn't sound right to me, then, so i'm with oerheks there, you should do a file system test. there's also a chance we're misunderstanding what you're saying - more details (actual outputs for those commands, as well as for "pwd" before and after you change directories may help)
[18:05] <tomreyn> mg_: "swap"
[18:06] <mra90> tomreyn, okay let me paste some output
[18:06] <oerheks> tomreyn, no, mg_  should do a fsck.
[18:07] <tomreyn> oerheks: oh i see. it might help in both cases, though.
[18:08] <oerheks> ll and ls are different, ll shows hidden files.. with a . in front of them
[18:08] <oerheks> and the ../../..// have no meaning there
[18:08] <mra90> here it is: https://termbin.com/j5ly
[18:09] <mra90> as you can see the output of ll is different even though directories are the same
[18:09] <mg_> Ok, so what do i do? And in case of looking for swap- how?
 mra90: that's to be expected on some file systems, such as sysfs
[18:10] <mra90> tomreyn, why?
[18:10] <mra90> it doesn't make any sense to me
[18:10] <tomreyn> mra90: because of how it's designed
[18:11] <mra90> you mean the ll or file system?
[18:11] <mra90> to me it doesn't make any sense
[18:11] <tomreyn> mg_: journalctl -b | grep swap
[18:12] <tomreyn> mra90: cd ..  may behave unexpectedly on sysfs
[18:12] <mra90> huh so it goes to some other folder?
[18:12] <mg_> @tomreyn https://pastebin.com/cpakUg8B
[18:12] <tomreyn> mra90: you should use absolute paths on sysfs only, not relative ones
[18:13] <oerheks> BTRFS warning (device sdb3): swapfile must not be copy-on-write ..
[18:13] <oerheks> no idea about btrfs
[18:13] <mg_> I'd gladly accept a solution shrinking it and making a partition instead of a file
[18:14] <webchat40> hi everyone
[18:14] <mg_> Dunno since when ubuntu started doing files instead of partitions
[18:14] <webchat40> hi everyone
[18:14] <mra90> tomreyn, so where do I go with my cd ../../../
[18:14] <tomreyn> mra90: nowhere
[18:14] <tomreyn> just dont do it
[18:15] <tomreyn> hi webchat40
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> how can we help you webchat40
[18:15] <webchat40> Anyone has knowledge about the default ubuntu installer "ubiquity"?
[18:15] <tomreyn> mra90: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/sysfs-rules.html
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> ask ahead webchat40
[18:15] <webchat40> I have a couple of simple questions
[18:15] <mra90> tomreyn, reading.. thanks
[18:16] <webchat40> Can I modify the ubiquity source code to add more features for my oem ubuntu
[18:16] <webchat40> I mean I am planning to distribute my modified ubuntu and I wanna add some license information in the installer
[18:16] <EriC^^> mra90: maybe it's something to do with symlinks going on, maybe see where it's taking you, or do it in pieces to see what's going on
[18:17] <webchat40> Is it possible to do that?
[18:18] <tomreyn> webchat40: you can modify ubiquity and create an ubuntu derivative with this. make sure you remove any copyrighted material and anything infringing the trademark.
[18:18] <mra90> EriC^^, oh yes you may be right about symlinks, that may be it
[18:19] <oerheks> webchat40, one can do an OEM install http://ubuntuconfig.com/ubuntu-oem-install-using-any-ubuntu-iso-image/
[18:19] <oerheks> but this channel is not about helping with your custom spin
[18:19] <webchat40> okay sorry
[18:19] <webchat40> do you know any channel about this subject?
[18:19] <oerheks> webchat40, and there is cubic.. https://askubuntu.com/questions/741753/how-to-use-cubic-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-image
[18:20] <oerheks> the 2nd urls is more your solution, i guess
[18:21] <tomreyn> mg_: looks like you hit bug 1818811
[18:21] <webchat40> okay thank you
[18:21] <tomreyn> mg_: see comment 7 on how to create it properly.
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> webchat40: feel free to talk more about your new project in #ubuntu-discuss aswell
[18:22] <svm_invictvs> If I kill systemd-resolvd I pretyt much lose all DNS right?
[18:24] <mg_> @tomreyn Do i also need to do 512 when i have 2Gb file?
[18:24] <tomreyn> mg_: if you want 2 GB, you do 2G
[18:24] <mg_> Kk, thx, ill try that and reboot
[18:25] <mg_> If i dont come back it means all worked out and thank you!
[18:28] <tomreyn> svm_invictvs: you'd loose that resolver then. if that'S the active one, you'd loose the ability to resolve.
[18:28] <svm_invictvs> Yeah
[18:29] <svm_invictvs> tomreyn, I'm writing software that uses SRV lookups and I'm trying to test it. That means I want to run a local DNS server. I can't open port 53 for that reason. I'm trying to figure out how to do this without killing DNS for my whole system.
[18:29] <mg_> Nah, still the same
[18:31] <i-garrison> svm_invictvs: DNSStubListener=no in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf will turn off stub resolver and free port 53, then you need to have valid nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf which does not point to killed stub resolver
[18:31] <svm_invictvs> If I were to do something like run dnsmasq on port 5353 and then point my systemd-resolvd at 127.0.0.1:5353 would that basically accomplish what I want?
[18:32] <tomreyn> svm_invictvs: have a look at resolv.conf(5) and systemd-resolved(8) to get an idea of how the resolver architecture works.
[18:33] <svm_invictvs> Yeah I'm reading it.
[18:33] <svm_invictvs> i-garrison, What's the stub resolver?
[18:33] <tomreyn> also systemd-resolved.service(8)
[18:34] <tomreyn> mg_: what exactly did you do after reading the bug report, to fix the swapfile?
[18:35] <mg_> @tomreyn Copypasted the command from comment #7, replaced 512 with 4G
[18:35] <mg_> *commands
[18:36] <svm_invictvs> i-garrison, Ah yeah, That did it.
[18:36] <svm_invictvs> i-garrison, Yeah, thanks. That's all I wanted was to free up localhost:53 for me to test this code. Put it back when I'm done but the last time I tested this thing I was modifying dnsmasq on my router which is a pain in the ass.
[18:40] <tomreyn> mg_: okay, i would have expected that to fix it. do you still see the same messages on the journal?
[18:40] <tomreyn> mg_: you did remove the leading    #   characters, right?
[18:40] <mg_> @tomreyn Yes and yes
[18:41] <tomreyn> mg_: and lsattr confirms it's now COW?
[18:42] <tomreyn> mg_: i meant: and lsattr confirms it's no longer COW?
[18:43] <mg_> @tomreyn not sure what you mean, when i type the command i just get some of my disk content
[18:44] <tomreyn> mg_: what's the output of:   lsattr /swapfile
[18:45] <mg_> @tomreyn ---------------C----- /swapfile
[18:47] <tomreyn> mg_: try deleting the file, then go through the three steps again.
[18:48] <tomreyn> mg_: alternatively, create the swap space on a non btrfs file system, or one one which will never have snapshots.
[18:48] <mg_> K, repeated, rebooting
[18:55] <mg_> @tomreyn Ye, same shit, guess ill just reinstall, fresh install anyway
[19:08] <pavlos> n #ubuntu-us-az
[19:11] <pavlos> sorry
[19:59] <Lutin> _________ damn you! You have a nickname :P
[20:00] <Lutin> I get this when I run a docker container... I don't have IPv6 on my interfaces so... IPv6 stack is enabled in the kernel but there is no interface that has ::1 address assigned. Add ::1 address resolution to 'lo' interface. You might need to enable IPv6 on the interface 'lo' in sysctl.conf.
[20:02] <Lutin> RonWhoCares I finally found someone who cares... when do we marry ?
[20:03] <mra90> where is devm_ioremap_resource mapping?
[20:03] <oerheks> fix your ipv6 issue first
[20:04] <Lutin> oerheks together everything goes much easier
[20:06] <mra90> how does platform_get_irq work?
[20:06] <mra90> I mean how does it get the actuall IRQ of a device?
[20:30] <Guy> hello room
[21:47] <webchat21> Hello, is this the support channel for Ubuntu?
[21:48] <leftyfb> webchat21: yes
[21:49] <webchat21> Have a question on a Ubuntu Base Update /  Not Enough Free Disk Question?
[21:50] <webchat21> Please let me know if this is the correct Channel
[21:50] <leftyfb> !ask | webchat21
[21:53] <webchat21> Attempting to Update a Ubuntu Base, getting Not Enough free Disk Space.  Shows I need 141MB of Free Space, my /boot shows I only have 132MB.  I have run sudo apt autoremove --purge (no luck).
[21:58] <tomreyn> webchat21: what do you mean by "Ubuntu Base", which ubuntu release are you running?
[22:00] <webchat21> Running 18.04.5 LTS, when I run Software Updater the Update shows as Security Updates -->Ubuntu Base
[22:15] <retro-64K> hi, i'm new here.
[22:50] <Mekaneck> retro-64K: welcome
[22:51] <Mekaneck> if you have a ubuntu support question just ask, for offtopic chit chat join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:54] <retro-64K> Mekaneck: thanks.
[23:29] <tomreyn> webchat21: use "disk usage analyzer" or ncdu to check where you can gain more free disk space
[23:38] <Lutin> why could complain a docker container on a Ubuntu host which has a IPv6 on lo about this ? https://github.com/freeipa/freeipa-container/issues/403