[00:04] <zxm-pi> arm really hurt for a 2-3 days after first pfizer. so kinda not looking forward to it being a little worse this time
[00:09] <penguin42> moderna is supposed to feel like the worst flu for about a day after the 2nd
[00:10] <zxm-pi> get the box sets out and have a binge of some good tv while you recover :-)
[00:14] <penguin42> maybe 'scanners'?
[00:18]  * zxm-pi has started listening fake doctors real friends podcast by 2 leads in scrubs and watching episode same day.
[12:23] <daftykins> happy Sunday to all \o
[12:23] <daftykins> zxm-pi: ooh i haven't seen any Scrubs in ages
[12:23] <daftykins> in fact i think i was hoarding that during my studenting, so that's a fair few moons now
[12:35] <daftykins> definitely regretting not putting a small fee on this iPad i am giving away today, my phone has been going pretty regularly this morning with enquiries
[12:40] <zxm-pi> tis good karma
[12:42] <daftykins> i think wealthy fella has another 2 old ones but we're talking even more ancient there, 30 pin dock connector ancient
[12:42] <daftykins> neither of us like Apple stuff but given the fancy jobs he's held, he's been gifted them from time to time
[12:43] <zxm-pi> ipad v2 was a tank and many of them still about from what i see online
[12:43] <zxm-pi> just can't connect it to web anymore
[12:44] <daftykins> when this person said it was just for the kids to watch Netflix when camping, that sounded like an ideal use!
[12:45] <daftykins> i checked their compatibility list for fun, seems they're holding onto letting them all still work - but a 1st gen iPad can only do 480p :D
[12:45] <zxm-pi> but how much storage is on the old ones, you'd need to compress the buggery out of media files to fit a camping holidays worth onboard
[12:45] <daftykins> i wonder what their plan is for data
[12:46] <daftykins> well this is a cellular model i'm giving away, so no need - just get a local pay as you go data SIM and 100GB allowance for £20 last i looked, that'd do a few
[12:46] <daftykins> wouldn't fancy the battery life chances in that config though
[12:50] <daftykins> wb ball \o
[12:50] <ball> Thanks daftykins!
[12:51] <daftykins> hrmm so it sounds like that iMac being sold locally is either a core 2 duo or a 1st gen core, pretty ancient 2009 model
[12:53] <penguin42> hmm the x86 ones were 2006 werent they?
[12:54] <daftykins> yeah somewhere around there
[12:57] <penguin42> watching our webserver get hammered at the time when the Beeb linked to it a few days before the announce of Rosetta was fun
[12:57] <daftykins> oh, did you have a hand in that?
[12:57] <penguin42> daftykins: I was at Transitive, we wrote the emulator
[12:58] <daftykins> :D
[12:58] <daftykins> very cool
[12:58] <ball> When you said "the Beeb linked to it" I pictured a Model B.
[12:58] <penguin42> *BASIC
[12:59] <ball> STATION 254 NOT LISTENING
[13:01] <penguin42> econet was one of the few beeb things I didnt do
[13:02] <daftykins> i distinctly remember one sat in the back of the classroom in about year 1 of primary school, but i don't think we ever got to use it, real shame
[13:03] <daftykins> so that would have been 1990 or 1991 if that fits
[13:03] <ball> I unboxed the BBC Model A we received at primary school under "Computers for Schools"/
[13:04] <ball> Helped the headmaster hook it up and typed the first few programs from the manual.
[13:04] <daftykins> :D
[13:04] <ball> Later, at secondary school, we had BBC Masters and the first few Archimedes.
[13:05] <daftykins> ah my secondary was 100% acorn until just before i left
[13:06] <ball> The scary physics teacher had an RM-380
[13:06] <ball> Z
[13:06] <ball> Oh!  ...and we had a few RM Nimbus.
[13:06] <ball> ...and an Apple ][ in the library.
[13:11] <daftykins> still badgering my Dad to dig out the ][ he has squirreled away
[13:12] <ball> Someone threw mine away before I was done with them. :-|
[13:12] <ball> Probably for the best, I suppose.
[13:14] <daftykins> assuming they had a battery, i'm worried about corrosion at this point
[13:14] <ball> I'm pretty sure these didn't have a battery but there are still the caps to think about.
[13:15] <daftykins> ah yeah looks like there were add-ins to handle clocks earlier on, only became standard from the ][GS apparently
[13:17] <zxm-pi> all schools and libraries in ireland got an apple ii. of course it was so delicate and fragile that no kids were allowed anywhere near them
[13:18] <zxm-pi> but my school went out on a limb and bought 6 c64s and a networked floppy drive. gave us all hands on experience.
[13:18]  * penguin42 remembers borrowing one of the schools beebs to play with serial with my own
[13:18] <ball> zxm-pi: Nice!  I wonder what network the C64s were on.
[13:18] <daftykins> wet string? ;D
[13:19] <zxm-pi> all of the c64s could access the floppy. just had to scream 'i'm using it don't do anything you sods' first :-)
[13:20] <ball> zxm-pi: A friend and I saw that when we hooked two PETs up to a double disk drive.
[13:20] <ball> We could use it fine but not at the same time.
[13:20] <penguin42> PET disk drives were a bit odd though
[13:21] <penguin42> GPIB and they had at least 2 processors of their own in
[13:21]  * ball nods
[13:21] <ball> I fixed a Beeb with the 6522 from a broken PET drive.
[13:23] <penguin42> not that the user via imploded if you looked at it wrong....
[13:25] <ball> I should get dressed to go over the little shop.
[13:25] <zxm-pi> go as you are, people will keep their distance more readily :-P
[13:26] <ball> Well I'm dressed but I'm wearing shorts and a tee shirt and generally like to wear long trousers if I'm going out.
[13:26] <ball> I could take the bike if they had anywhere to chain it up.
[13:35] <daftykins> i was chatting with a lady outside my doctor's surgery the other day about the lack of catering for us cyclists! allegedly they're building a new site beside the existing though which will have some
[13:35] <ball> That's good.
[13:36] <daftykins> the islands roads are truly crazy these days, when i was in school they were much more calm and households were lucky to have one car, my parents have tales of the roads being empty in the 70s :D
[13:38] <zxm-pi> a lot of roads were empty in 70s after the oil crisis
[13:38] <ball> We lived without one for years, after my dad's mini died.
[13:39] <ball> We walked everywhere, or rode our bikes.
[13:41] <daftykins> easy for the likes of me on the island, but a much different prospect for you mainlanders :D
[13:42] <zxm-pi> after the oil crisis ended my dad got a honda 50 motorbike as it used bugger all fuel. could still get dad and 5 kids on it. different times
[13:44] <ball> daftykins: We were three miles from the nearest town, mind.
[13:44] <ball> brb, trousers...
[13:45] <daftykins> wooooow https://tig.gg/category/home-family/tv-audio/15320/damaged-75-oled-samsung-75
[13:59] <penguin42> haha
[13:59] <penguin42> hmm
[13:59] <penguin42> shame there's a couple of vertical lines; otherwise you could gently forget about the hole
[14:02] <daftykins> :D
[14:06] <daftykins> heh even when you behave like a charity on these trade sites, people still have a knack to muck you around - these ones are saying lunch service is slow so they are going to be late
[16:22] <daftykins> hrmm what else do i need to get done before the week starts...
[16:22] <zxm-pi> build that doomsday device you've always wanted? :-P
[16:23] <daftykins> i could well be driven to that in time xD
[16:26] <daftykins> nah it isn't so bad now, makes sense why large enough companies have tiered support though, gets crazy when you are the only person
[16:33] <jlj_> ^^^
[16:34] <jlj_> Can I just say, love that I have a hard time keeping up in here. New server revival! ;-)
[16:35] <daftykins> hehe
[16:35] <daftykins> definitely needed a good shaking, the ol' tree
[16:37]  * jlj_ grins
[16:41] <zxm-pi> new channel, all shiny no rust
[16:41] <zxm-pi> new server kills off the dead channels funnelling people into active ones
[16:42] <penguin42> yeh I'm surprised, I'd expected it to split stuff more
[16:44] <daftykins> i'm curious how many are on the 'new' leenode
[16:46] <zxm-pi> https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php
[16:49] <penguin42> huh surprised there's still that much left - what is it, bots?
[16:50] <daftykins> probably :D
[16:50] <daftykins> what i really meant was i didn't trust the numbers xD
[16:50] <jlj_> ^^^
[16:51] <daftykins> ooh nasty, the Dell R820 reached an inlet temp of 33 deg C last week
[16:51] <daftykins> (at my pal's house in Exeter)
[16:54] <penguin42> bit warm
[16:54] <daftykins> yeah, he went against my advice and put it in an uninsulated attic area despite my protests from the beginning
[16:55] <penguin42> because it's never warm in essex?
[16:56] <daftykins> my wealthy client has a knack for trying to suggest the worst possible rooms for equipment too, it's incredible
[16:57] <daftykins> "there's some nice loft space here" 
[16:57]  * daftykins looks at a precarious ladder suspended beside a large staircase drop
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[16:58] <daftykins> glad to have had some input on the new office design though \o/ current PC lives in a horrible custom desk design with a solid wooden piece between the footwell and his PC, so if i want to open it, i have to unplug it and slide it out every time
[17:03] <zxm-pi> what... you don't have a switch hanging from it's cat 5 cables suspended over the users chair as the switch of damocles? :-P
[17:28] <daftykins> xD
[17:28] <daftykins> my optician does
[17:29] <daftykins> ugh i think i see another DJ event about to start this evening at the beer garden above me, just handed over that iPad at last
[17:30] <penguin42> that's a point we need to find someone with a ladder to wire something
[17:31] <daftykins> phew listing deleted to prevent further calls