[01:43] good morning [02:14] Morning callmepk [05:36] hi duflu [06:14] good morning desktoppers [06:21] hi oSoMoN [06:21] hey callmepk [06:38] Hi oSoMoN [07:10] good morning [07:13] good morning callmepk duflu oSoMoN didrocks [07:13] hey marcustomlinson [07:13] hi didrocks marcustomlinson [07:17] Hi marcustomlinson [07:17] And morning didrocks [07:21] hey callmepk, duflu [07:53] hey duflu, salut didrocks, good morning marcustomlinson [07:58] salut oSoMoN [07:59] Good morning all [08:00] salut jibel [08:05] moin [08:07] hey duflu, didrocks, oSoMoN, jibel, laney [08:08] salut seb128 [08:09] heya, how's it going? [08:10] a bit tired but alright otherwise, also summer went away ... you? [08:10] mmm alrght, was just thinking the same [08:10] sitting outside, sunny but cold and quite windy [08:11] "this is great šŸ˜¬" [08:11] lol [08:13] it's alright, we're on the way back down to winter now [08:14] -5s daytime today compared to yesterday [08:19] :) [08:24] Hi jibel, laney, seb128 [08:28] hey laney and seb128 [08:41] good morning desktopers [08:44] hey ricotz, how are you? [08:44] ricotz, nice one using O0 rather than an older gcc ;-) [08:45] seb128, hi, I am good, finally some normal room temperatures again :), how are you? [08:45] * laney coughs [08:45] "nice" :p [08:45] hey ricotz [08:46] seb128, yeah, doko pointed that out, it doesn't help finding the real problem though [08:46] laney, hey [08:50] ricotz, I'm alright thanks! [08:51] why is doko not just helping figuring out what change in gcc that broke it? [08:53] seb128, basically he wants a smaller reproducer, but this this O0 build debugging should be easier [08:53] the no-change build is quite unfortunate though [08:53] while I meant to upload this change to impish too [09:38] seb128, basically he wants a smaller reproducer, but this this O0 build debugging should be easier [09:38] the no-change build is quite unfortunate though [09:38] while I meant to upload this change to impish too [10:00] ricotz, indeed :/ [12:26] oSoMoN: I'm gonna need gedit 40 to land tracker 3 [12:27] well, technically, the nautilus update I did at the same time - it breaks gedit << 40 [12:27] fedora did https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gedit/c/8885160cf6f498c6d5bc03fc858ba1d0cb82d1eb?branch=rawhide - should we do too? [12:27] laney, I was hoping to get an answer to https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gedit/-/commit/fa587e033c97fac65dacdb3c9520635beca68fbc#note_1180636 from a maintainer before proceeding [12:27] Commit fa587e0 in GNOME/gedit "deteplification: the mega commit" [12:28] man, what a commit message [12:29] laney, I'm okay with proceeding like fedora did [12:29] great [12:29] I'll handle it this afternoon [12:29] thanks a lot :D [12:29] I'll need to add a Breaks to nautilus [12:29] guess I can do that now tbh [12:33] what is gedit relying on from nautilus? [12:33] * seb128 is curious [12:33] wait for the commit ;-) [12:33] :) [12:36] * oSoMoN expects a creative commit message, fedora-like [12:41] ah [12:41] * laney spanks KGB-1 [12:42] never talks when you want ... [12:42] https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/nautilus/-/commit/afc92a4d82eb38c3b9c959d1aa2992f15fe13099 [12:42] Commit afc92a4 in gnome-team/nautilus "control: Breaks gedit << 40" [12:55] ah === doko_ is now known as doko [12:56] it means we could also backport https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gedit/-/commit/8f6490c6 to 38 if we wanted to wait for upstream clarification on 40 and depends [12:56] Commit 8f6490c in GNOME/gedit "file-browser: drop use of confirm-trash" [13:14] oSoMoN, ^ fyi in case you don't follow the channel (also I had to restart, kernel didn't like me playing with bluez) so might have lost backlog [13:15] oSoMoN, other topic ... I guess adding a similar /etc/thunderbird/policies access to thunderbird would make sense? (checking online and the tb code it seems it has similar mechanism and the dirname is based on the product) [13:16] seb128, I haven't tested policies in thunderbird, but it makes sense indeed [13:24] oSoMoN, thanks [13:25] seb128, if you add that same plug, you will also want a store auto-connection request like https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/auto-connecting-the-system-files-interface-for-the-firefox-snap/25103 [13:28] oSoMoN, right, I saw that request, will do, thanks [13:50] good morning desktopers [13:50] good morning hellsworth [13:50] hi there oSoMoN :) [13:51] Hi seb128, is bug #1933022 present all over 3.38? If so maybe the fix should be made in bullseye. [13:51] Bug 1933022 in gnome-desktop3 (Ubuntu) "gnome control-center crashed with sigsegv in g_str_hash() whenever I try to add input sources" [High, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1933022 [13:56] GunnarHj, hey, I've no idea, it happens on hirsute but I don't have a Debian system to try handy atm [13:56] GunnarHj, also it impacts users who changed a gsettings key so it's quite a corner case [13:56] (or do we have a visible UI to toggle that config?) [13:58] seb128: Ok. I'll test. There is indeed a UI for it in Tweaks, and also mentioned in the docs: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/keyboard-layouts.html [14:04] hey hellsworth [14:06] hiya marcustomlinson [14:17] Good morning hellsworth [14:17] hi jibel [14:17] hope your tuesday is going well and you still feel good :) [15:17] seb128: The gnome-desktop segfault issue is easily reproducible on Debian testing. I feel it's a bit beyond a "corner case", so I'm thinking of fixing it in bullseye. [15:20] (and hirsute) [15:28] GunnarHj, feel free, I've enough other things to do and I'm not interested in getting involved in that one though [15:30] I checked errors.ubuntu.com and there isn't really a spike of report on hirsute so it doesn't seem too concerning, we could update gnome-desktop ro 3.38.7 and include the fix [15:33] on that not bbl, need to relocate [15:44] GunnarHj: hey, any clue what's using gnome_get_all_languages ? [15:44] from https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/j4XYjRKctQ/ [15:53] gnome-control-center Marco Trevisan 245442 * commented commit 2ba4e35 * https://deb.li/i2seI [15:53] gnome-control-center Marco Trevisan 245443 * commented merge request !21 * https://deb.li/wtXc === apw is now known as apw- === apw- is now known as cafetiere === cafetiere is now known as apw [16:10] Trevinho: I'm pretty sure that is one of the obsolete patches which previously made up the Ubuntu GNOME language pack install feature. [16:11] GunnarHj: so it seems, so should not be needed? was metnioned as something needed by gnome 3.8 [16:13] Trevinho: AFAIK it can be dropped. 3.8 sounds like trusty, and the feature was developed around that time. [16:17] Trevinho: I'd guess (not checked) that it was used by the g-c-c patch you just dropped. [16:46] Trevinho: Correction: gnome_get_all_languages() was used by another patch, which was dropped through this commit: [16:46] https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-control-center/-/commit/21a7438b [16:46] Commit 21a7438 in gnome-team/gnome-control-center "Really remove the patch" [16:46] GunnarHj: actually even before [16:47] GunnarHj: https://www.pastery.net/cjxsah/ [16:47] so was disabled on earlier commit either [16:47] I think is fine to drop it too then [16:47] Agreed. [16:48] was removed on 3.32.1-1ubuntu4 [16:48] nice :D [16:49] Trevinho: Btw, did you have a chance to look at the g-c-c MR I submitted? I.e. the one where I propose to reverse your work. ;) [16:50] GunnarHj: yeah, I replied earlier [16:50] Ah, will look at that. [18:54] gnome-desktop signed tags dd67f3e Marco Trevisan ubuntu/40.2-1ubuntu1 * gnome-desktop3 Debian release 40.2-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/6OJN [18:54] gnome-desktop ubuntu/master ca35b2c Marco Trevisan * pushed 88 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/iwc4x [18:54] gnome-desktop ubuntu/master e708fc1 Michael Catanzaro NEWS meson.build * Prepare 40.2 * https://deb.li/I1vA [18:54] gnome-desktop ubuntu/master c8949ed Marco Trevisan (TreviƱo) (30 files in 6 dirs) * New upstream version 40.2 * https://deb.li/KOvv [18:54] gnome-desktop ubuntu/master 8e1399d Marco Trevisan (TreviƱo) debian/watch * debian/watch: Update to new GNOME versioning schema * https://deb.li/3Pc7n [18:54] gnome-desktop ubuntu/master d25f794 Marco Trevisan (TreviƱo) (30 files in 6 dirs) * Update upstream source from tag 'upstream/40.2' * https://deb.li/sZns [18:55] gnome-desktop ubuntu/master e818b32 Marco Trevisan (TreviƱo) debian/changelog * New upstream release * https://deb.li/3nVfU [19:20] laney, https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gedit/-/merge_requests/10 [19:20] Merge 10 in gnome-team/gedit "New upstream release: 40.1" [Opened] [19:20] GNOME issue (Merge request) 10 in gedit "New upstream release: 40.1" [Opened] [19:20] and https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gedit-plugins/-/merge_requests/3 [19:20] Merge 3 in gnome-team/gedit-plugins "New upstream release: 40.1" [Opened] [19:20] GNOME issue (Merge request) 3 in gedit-plugins "New upstream release: 40.1" [Opened]