[01:43] <callmepk> good morning
[02:14] <duflu> Morning callmepk 
[05:36] <callmepk> hi duflu 
[06:14] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:21] <callmepk> hi oSoMoN 
[06:21] <oSoMoN> hey callmepk 
[06:38] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN 
[07:10] <didrocks> good morning
[07:13] <marcustomlinson> good morning callmepk duflu oSoMoN didrocks
[07:13] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson 
[07:13] <callmepk> hi didrocks marcustomlinson 
[07:17] <duflu> Hi marcustomlinson 
[07:17] <duflu> And morning didrocks 
[07:21] <didrocks> hey callmepk, duflu 
[07:53] <oSoMoN> hey duflu, salut didrocks, good morning marcustomlinson 
[07:58] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN 
[07:59] <jibel> Good morning all
[08:00] <didrocks> salut jibel 
[08:05] <laney> moin
[08:07] <seb128> hey duflu, didrocks, oSoMoN, jibel, laney 
[08:08] <didrocks> salut seb128 
[08:09] <laney> heya, how's it going?
[08:10] <seb128> a bit tired but alright otherwise, also summer went away ... you?
[08:10] <laney> mmm alrght, was just thinking the same
[08:10] <laney> sitting outside, sunny but cold and quite windy
[08:11] <laney> "this is great 😬"
[08:11] <seb128> lol
[08:13] <laney> it's alright, we're on the way back down to winter now
[08:14] <laney> -5s daytime today compared to yesterday
[08:19] <seb128> :)
[08:24] <duflu> Hi jibel, laney, seb128 
[08:28] <marcustomlinson> hey laney and seb128
[08:41] <ricotz> good morning desktopers
[08:44] <seb128> hey ricotz, how are you?
[08:44] <seb128> ricotz, nice one using O0 rather than an older gcc ;-)
[08:45] <ricotz> seb128, hi, I am good, finally some normal room temperatures again :), how are you?
[08:45]  * laney coughs
[08:45] <laney> "nice" :p
[08:45] <laney> hey ricotz 
[08:46] <ricotz> seb128, yeah, doko pointed that out, it doesn't help finding the real problem though
[08:46] <ricotz> laney, hey
[08:50] <seb128> ricotz, I'm alright thanks!
[08:51] <seb128> why is doko not just helping figuring out what change in gcc that broke it?
[08:53] <ricotz> seb128, basically he wants a smaller reproducer, but this this O0 build debugging should be easier
[08:53] <ricotz> the no-change build is quite unfortunate though
[08:53] <ricotz> while I meant to upload this change to impish too
 seb128, basically he wants a smaller reproducer, but this this O0 build debugging should be easier
 the no-change build is quite unfortunate though
 while I meant to upload this change to impish too
[10:00] <seb128> ricotz, indeed :/
[12:26] <laney> oSoMoN: I'm gonna need gedit 40 to land tracker 3
[12:27] <laney> well, technically, the nautilus update I did at the same time - it breaks gedit << 40
[12:27] <laney> fedora did https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gedit/c/8885160cf6f498c6d5bc03fc858ba1d0cb82d1eb?branch=rawhide - should we do too?
[12:27] <oSoMoN> laney, I was hoping to get an answer to https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gedit/-/commit/fa587e033c97fac65dacdb3c9520635beca68fbc#note_1180636 from a maintainer before proceeding
[12:28] <oSoMoN> man, what a commit message
[12:29] <oSoMoN> laney, I'm okay with proceeding like fedora did
[12:29] <laney> great
[12:29] <oSoMoN> I'll handle it this afternoon
[12:29] <laney> thanks a lot :D
[12:29] <laney> I'll need to add a Breaks to nautilus
[12:29] <laney> guess I can do that now tbh
[12:33] <seb128> what is gedit relying on from nautilus? 
[12:33]  * seb128 is curious
[12:33] <laney> wait for the commit ;-)
[12:33] <seb128> :)
[12:36]  * oSoMoN expects a creative commit message, fedora-like
[12:41] <laney> ah
[12:41]  * laney spanks KGB-1 
[12:42] <laney> never talks when you want ...
[12:42] <laney> https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/nautilus/-/commit/afc92a4d82eb38c3b9c959d1aa2992f15fe13099
[12:55] <seb128> ah
[12:56] <seb128> it means we could also backport https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gedit/-/commit/8f6490c6 to 38 if we wanted to wait for upstream clarification on 40 and depends
[13:14] <seb128> oSoMoN, ^ fyi in case you don't follow the channel (also I had to restart, kernel didn't like me playing with bluez) so might have lost backlog
[13:15] <seb128> oSoMoN, other topic ... I guess adding a similar /etc/thunderbird/policies access to thunderbird would make sense? (checking online and the tb code it seems it has similar mechanism and the dirname is based on the product)
[13:16] <oSoMoN> seb128, I haven't tested policies in thunderbird, but it makes sense indeed
[13:24] <seb128> oSoMoN, thanks
[13:25] <oSoMoN> seb128, if you add that same plug, you will also want a store auto-connection request like https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/auto-connecting-the-system-files-interface-for-the-firefox-snap/25103
[13:28] <seb128> oSoMoN, right, I saw that request, will do, thanks
[13:50] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[13:50] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth 
[13:50] <hellsworth> hi there oSoMoN :)
[13:51] <GunnarHj> Hi seb128, is bug #1933022 present all over 3.38? If so maybe the fix should be made in bullseye.
[13:56] <seb128> GunnarHj, hey, I've no idea, it happens on hirsute but I don't have a Debian system to try handy atm
[13:56] <seb128> GunnarHj, also it impacts users who changed a gsettings key so it's quite a corner case
[13:56] <seb128> (or do we have a visible UI to toggle that config?)
[13:58] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok. I'll test. There is indeed a UI for it in Tweaks, and also mentioned in the docs: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/keyboard-layouts.html
[14:04] <marcustomlinson> hey hellsworth
[14:06] <hellsworth> hiya marcustomlinson 
[14:17] <jibel> Good morning hellsworth 
[14:17] <hellsworth> hi jibel 
[14:17] <hellsworth> hope your tuesday is going well and you still feel good :)
[15:17] <GunnarHj> seb128: The gnome-desktop segfault issue is easily reproducible on Debian testing. I feel it's a bit beyond a "corner case", so I'm thinking of fixing it in bullseye.
[15:20] <GunnarHj> (and hirsute)
[15:28] <seb128> GunnarHj, feel free, I've enough other things to do and I'm not interested in getting involved in that one though
[15:30] <seb128> I checked errors.ubuntu.com and there isn't really a spike of report on hirsute so it doesn't seem too concerning, we could update gnome-desktop ro 3.38.7 and include the fix
[15:33] <seb128> on that not bbl, need to relocate
[15:44] <Trevinho> GunnarHj: hey, any clue what's using gnome_get_all_languages ?
[15:44] <Trevinho> from https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/j4XYjRKctQ/
[15:53] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center Marco Trevisan 245442 * commented commit 2ba4e35 * https://deb.li/i2seI
[15:53] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center Marco Trevisan 245443 * commented merge request !21 * https://deb.li/wtXc
[16:10] <GunnarHj> Trevinho: I'm pretty sure that is one of the obsolete patches which previously made up the Ubuntu GNOME language pack install feature.
[16:11] <Trevinho> GunnarHj: so it seems, so should not be needed? was metnioned as something needed by gnome 3.8
[16:13] <GunnarHj> Trevinho: AFAIK it can be dropped. 3.8 sounds like trusty, and the feature was developed around that time.
[16:17] <GunnarHj> Trevinho: I'd guess (not checked) that it was used by the g-c-c patch you just dropped.
[16:46] <GunnarHj> Trevinho: Correction: gnome_get_all_languages() was used by another patch, which was dropped through this commit:
[16:46] <GunnarHj> https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-control-center/-/commit/21a7438b
[16:46] <Trevinho> GunnarHj: actually even before
[16:47] <Trevinho> GunnarHj: https://www.pastery.net/cjxsah/
[16:47] <Trevinho> so was disabled on earlier commit either
[16:47] <Trevinho> I think is fine to drop it too then
[16:47] <GunnarHj> Agreed.
[16:48] <Trevinho> was removed on 3.32.1-1ubuntu4
[16:48] <Trevinho> nice :D
[16:49] <GunnarHj> Trevinho: Btw, did you have a chance to look at the g-c-c MR I submitted? I.e. the one where I propose to reverse your work. ;)
[16:50] <Trevinho> GunnarHj: yeah, I replied earlier
[16:50] <GunnarHj> Ah, will look at that.
[18:54] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop signed tags dd67f3e Marco Trevisan ubuntu/40.2-1ubuntu1 * gnome-desktop3 Debian release 40.2-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/6OJN
[18:54] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop ubuntu/master ca35b2c Marco Trevisan * pushed 88 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/iwc4x
[18:54] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop ubuntu/master e708fc1 Michael Catanzaro NEWS meson.build * Prepare 40.2 * https://deb.li/I1vA
[18:54] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop ubuntu/master c8949ed Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (30 files in 6 dirs) * New upstream version 40.2 * https://deb.li/KOvv
[18:54] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop ubuntu/master 8e1399d Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/watch * debian/watch: Update to new GNOME versioning schema * https://deb.li/3Pc7n
[18:54] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop ubuntu/master d25f794 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (30 files in 6 dirs) * Update upstream source from tag 'upstream/40.2' * https://deb.li/sZns
[18:55] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop ubuntu/master e818b32 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/changelog * New upstream release * https://deb.li/3nVfU
[19:20] <oSoMoN> laney, https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gedit/-/merge_requests/10
[19:20] <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 10 in gedit "New upstream release: 40.1" [Opened]
[19:20] <oSoMoN> and https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gedit-plugins/-/merge_requests/3
[19:20] <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 3 in gedit-plugins "New upstream release: 40.1" [Opened]