[08:43] -NickServ- You cannot REGAIN yourself. [08:44] There's something deep and meaningful in that [08:44] o/ === cking is now known as cking2 === cking2 is now known as cking [11:25] Work wants to buy me a new laptop. The work owned workstation I use is still working okay for my needs. So I don't know what I really want/need [11:25] Any thoughts for a PHP dev who runs lots of VMs? [11:35] * bigcalm eyes the new Dell XPS 17 [11:35] Would be a nice upgrade from my 2018 Dell XPS 15 [11:36] lots of vms you say... :-P https://liliputing.com/2020/08/a-xp-portable-threadripper-workstation-pc-that-costs-8000-and-weighs-23-pounds.html [11:36] Chunky boy [11:37] that baby can run 2-3 electron apps AT THE SAME TIME :-P [11:37] what an age we live in [12:37] I personally wouldn't get a 17 inch laptop at any cost [12:37] I did that mistake ten years ago and even if they've become lighter, they're still big. [12:43] a 17" incher is i'll move it maybe once a month laptop [13:38] I have 3 x 27" monitors on my desktop. My current laptop is 15". I'm often lamenting the lack of real estate. Maybe I'll look at a 15" laptop and a USB display, for when I'm on the road [13:40] Maybe 17" is for when my eyesight fails and I need to lower the screen res :D [13:57] an audio based morse code display :-) [13:58] with bleeping and blinking [14:48] * bigcalm throws angry words at Oracle [14:48] Why must it be so difficult to install MySQL 5.7 on Ubuntu 20.04? [14:49] Because we shipped MySQL 8.0 with Ubuntu 20.04? [14:49] You could run a 18.04 container inside 20.04 and then install MySQL 5.7 into that. [14:50] bigcalm: would Maria be easier? [14:50] Myrtti: possibly [14:52] I'm upgrading a VM from Ubuntu 16.04 to 20.04. Was hoping to keep users and databases in place without having to reimport things. [14:53] The upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 worked just fine :) [14:53] Maybe I'll just stick with 18.04 for the time being. Until I'm able to migrate the database to work on MySql 8.0 [15:01] Percona used to be a good source of older mysqlds for ubuntus, in a deb repo [15:01] as long as you don't need to have Oracle's mysql [15:03] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/event [15:04] i'll make a note of that event in my psion :-P [15:04] diddledan: what's happening? [15:04] window 11 thingy prob [15:04] yup [15:04] Win11 [15:04] Windows 11? [15:05] I feel like I'm living under a rock [15:05] window 10 the last version of windows was a lie... just like the cake [15:05] Buffering... [15:06] everyone fire up their realplayers NOW :-P [15:16] Taking a 4 day weekend - I've got that Friday feeling [15:17] Now I fancy a Crunchy [15:20] it's not friday! [15:21] Sorry :D [15:22] have to slum it with (looks up thursday chocolate bar) a double decker [15:23] That would be nice as well [15:23] Unfortunately, it's not the weekend. No chocolate for me [15:23] s/chocolate/snaks [15:24] * zxm-pi slides a curly wurly across table inside a magazine [15:25] Oh no, my teef [15:26] in this heat, how bad are your teeth, you should be able to just pour it out of the wrapper :-P [15:29] Only 25°C today [15:30] Which is a touch warm for my liking [15:30] But I like my chocolate bars to sit in the fridge for a whiled [15:30] whiled - the while daemon? [15:30] Really not a fan of warm chocolate [15:38] Anybody here using Linux servers hosted by MS Azure? === bigcalm is now known as Guest6980 === bigcalm_ is now known as bigcalm [15:45] Grumble grumble. Don't start this again === bigcalm_ is now known as bigcalm [16:10] Well, bugger [16:11] Connection decided to go away while running do-release-upgrade on a remote (test) server [16:11] It's run inside a screen, isn't it? [16:13] Yay, I'm back in :) === bigcalm_ is now known as bigcalm [16:27] At least the day is almost done === bigcalm is now known as Guest9351 === bigcalm_ is now known as bigcalm === bigcalm_ is now known as bigcalm === bigcalm is now known as Guest7840 === bigcalm_ is now known as bigcalm === popey2 is now known as popey [19:43] Winders 11 has Windows Subsystem for Android [19:44] man, that stream kept seizing on me, much disappoint [19:45] me too [19:45] I switched to the engadget restream instead [19:45] ah ha