[08:43] <bigcalm> -NickServ- You cannot REGAIN yourself.
[08:44] <bigcalm> There's something deep and meaningful in that
[08:44] <bigcalm> o/
[11:25] <bigcalm> Work wants to buy me a new laptop. The work owned workstation I use is still working okay for my needs. So I don't know what I really want/need
[11:25] <bigcalm> Any thoughts for a PHP dev who runs lots of VMs?
[11:35]  * bigcalm eyes the new Dell XPS 17
[11:35] <bigcalm> Would be a nice upgrade from my 2018 Dell XPS 15
[11:36] <zxm-pi> lots of vms you say... :-P https://liliputing.com/2020/08/a-xp-portable-threadripper-workstation-pc-that-costs-8000-and-weighs-23-pounds.html
[11:36] <bigcalm> Chunky boy
[11:37] <zxm-pi> that baby can run 2-3 electron apps AT THE SAME TIME :-P
[11:37] <zxm-pi> what an age we live in
[12:37] <Myrtti> I personally wouldn't get a 17 inch laptop at any cost
[12:37] <Myrtti> I did that mistake ten years ago and even if they've become lighter, they're still big.
[12:43] <zxm-pi> a 17" incher is i'll move it maybe once a month laptop
[13:38] <bigcalm> I have 3 x 27" monitors on my desktop. My current laptop is 15". I'm often lamenting the lack of real estate. Maybe I'll look at a 15" laptop and a USB display, for when I'm on the road
[13:40] <bigcalm> Maybe 17" is for when my eyesight fails and I need to lower the screen res :D
[13:57] <zxm-pi> an audio based morse code display :-)
[13:58] <zxm-pi> with bleeping and blinking
[14:48]  * bigcalm throws angry words at Oracle
[14:48] <bigcalm> Why must it be so difficult to install MySQL 5.7 on Ubuntu 20.04?
[14:49] <rbasak> Because we shipped MySQL 8.0 with Ubuntu 20.04?
[14:49] <rbasak> You could run a 18.04 container inside 20.04 and then install MySQL 5.7 into that.
[14:50] <Myrtti> bigcalm: would Maria be easier?
[14:50] <bigcalm> Myrtti: possibly
[14:52] <bigcalm> I'm upgrading a VM from Ubuntu 16.04 to 20.04. Was hoping to keep users and databases in place without having to reimport things.
[14:53] <bigcalm> The upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 worked just fine :)
[14:53] <bigcalm> Maybe I'll just stick with 18.04 for the time being. Until I'm able to migrate the database to work on MySql 8.0
[15:01] <BigRedS[m]> Percona used to be a good source of older mysqlds for ubuntus, in a deb repo
[15:01] <BigRedS[m]> as long as you don't need to have Oracle's mysql
[15:03] <diddledan> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/event
[15:04] <zxm-pi> i'll make a note of that event in my psion :-P
[15:04] <bigcalm> diddledan: what's happening?
[15:04] <zxm-pi> window 11 thingy prob
[15:04] <diddledan> yup
[15:04] <diddledan> Win11
[15:04] <bigcalm> Windows 11?
[15:05] <bigcalm> I feel like I'm living under a rock
[15:05] <zxm-pi> window 10 the last version of windows was a lie... just like the cake
[15:05] <bigcalm> Buffering...
[15:06] <zxm-pi> everyone fire up their realplayers NOW :-P
[15:16] <bigcalm> Taking a 4 day weekend - I've got that Friday feeling
[15:17] <bigcalm> Now I fancy a Crunchy
[15:20] <zxm-pi> it's not friday!
[15:21] <bigcalm> Sorry :D
[15:22] <zxm-pi> have to slum it with (looks up thursday chocolate bar) a double decker
[15:23] <bigcalm> That would be nice as well
[15:23] <bigcalm> Unfortunately, it's not the weekend. No chocolate for me
[15:23] <bigcalm> s/chocolate/snaks
[15:24]  * zxm-pi slides a curly wurly across table inside a magazine
[15:25] <bigcalm> Oh no, my teef
[15:26] <zxm-pi> in this heat, how bad are your teeth, you should be able to just pour it out of the wrapper :-P
[15:29] <bigcalm> Only 25°C today
[15:30] <bigcalm> Which is a touch warm for my liking
[15:30] <bigcalm> But I like my chocolate bars to sit in the fridge for a whiled
[15:30] <bigcalm> whiled - the while daemon?
[15:30] <bigcalm> Really not a fan of warm chocolate
[15:38] <bigcalm> Anybody here using Linux servers hosted by MS Azure?
[15:45] <bigcalm> Grumble grumble. Don't start this again
[16:10] <bigcalm> Well, bugger
[16:11] <bigcalm> Connection decided to go away while running do-release-upgrade on a remote (test) server
[16:11] <bigcalm> It's run inside a screen, isn't it?
[16:13] <bigcalm> Yay, I'm back in :)
[16:27] <bigcalm> At least the day is almost done
[19:43] <diddledan> Winders 11 has Windows Subsystem for Android
[19:44] <daftykins> man, that stream kept seizing on me, much disappoint
[19:45] <diddledan> me too
[19:45] <diddledan> I switched to the engadget restream instead
[19:45] <daftykins> ah ha