[15:52] <melodie> hi
[16:00] <gnrp> hi
[16:01] <melodie> hello gnrp 
[16:20] <melodie> yesterday I had diogene helping me for an issue which I thought was solved, but finally wasn't
[16:21] <melodie> it is about this message at the end of shutdown or reboot: "systemd-shutdown : waiting process: exe"
[16:23] <melodie> he thought I would get the right behavior with a acpi_osi=! on the kernel command line, this one : "acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2012\""
[16:23] <melodie> but after a third reboot the issue was back
[16:23] <melodie> so diogene not being here this evening, I did a search and found this page at Manjaro : https://forum.manjaro.org/t/how-to-choose-the-proper-acpi-kernel-argument/1405
[16:24] <melodie> so I am changing now a detail: from "acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2012\"" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=! acpi_osi='Windows 2012'" 
[16:25] <melodie> you can see I only removed the anti-slash parts and used single quotes around the "Windows" part
[16:25] <melodie> I updated grub and will do a cold shutdown or 2 shutdows perhaps.
[16:26] <melodie> The machine is a Dell 3010 with a proc i5 3470, 8 GB RAM DDR3 non ECC (1.35v)
[16:26] <melodie> and Xubuntu 20.04 al
[16:27] <melodie> also meets with a strange issue : once the main hard drive is seen as sda, and another time as sdf, which is kind of weird
[16:27] <melodie> what do you think?
[16:30] <melodie> ok, bbl
[16:55] <melodie> hi again
[16:56] <melodie> with what I said just before the only kernel that seems to work without causing any trouble  is  5.4.0-72-generic #80-Ubuntu SMP x86_64
[16:57] <melodie> considering the addition to the kernel command lines
[17:00] <melodie> hi diogenes_ 
[17:00] <diogenes_> hi melodie 
[17:00] <melodie> I came back to report what happened on the same computer yesterday evening it has been weird. 
[17:01] <melodie> I said just before you arrived that : 
[17:01] <melodie> " the only kernel that seems to work without causing any trouble  is  5.4.0-72-generic #80-Ubuntu SMP x86_64"
[17:02] <melodie> and I also had to modify the line you gave me yesterday for this : ""acpi_osi=! acpi_osi='Windows 2012'" (single quotes around the windows part, and no anti-slashes)
[17:03] <melodie> yesterday evening the systemd-shutdown waiting happened again and also in the journalctl messages I got lines of "usb 1-1.2: device descriptor read/64, error -32" but this happed with the new linux-image-generic kernel , the one that ends with the number 77
[17:04] <melodie> when reverting back to the  5.4.0-72-generic it does not happen anymore
[17:04] <diogenes_> melodie, is it hwe kernel?
[17:04] <melodie> I removed the "generic" meta packages and blocked the former kernel to keep it
[17:04] <melodie> no it is not hwe
[17:05] <diogenes_> maybe try an hwe?
[17:05] <melodie> which one?
[17:06] <melodie> generic-20.04 I guess?
[17:06] <melodie> ok I'll try
[17:06] <diogenes_> yep
[17:07] <melodie> it will install this: http://pastebin.fr/92580
[17:08] <melodie> I'll bb tomorrow for the results. Do you know if you will be here tomorrow?
[17:08] <diogenes_> it's normal.
[17:08] <melodie> sure it's normal
[17:08] <diogenes_> yes i will be here.
[17:09] <melodie> nice, I'll come and tell you if that helps then. will you be around at the same time as now, or maybe earlier? (France here, 19:10 now)
[17:10] <diogenes_> earlier maybe.
[17:10] <melodie> nice, have a good evening (or day?) a good one anyway! :D
[17:10] <melodie> I'm out
[19:33] <av2156> so quite in here
[19:33] <av2156> guess no one comes for support on irc for xubuntu
[19:35] <oerheks> some do ..
[20:08] <Mekaneck> av2156: it always has been quiet in every channel, it declined due the fact that kids and other users jumped over to discord, telegram and matrix
[20:09] <av2156> true
[20:09] <Mekaneck> but that discussion is something for the offtopic channel
[21:12] <gnrp> I guess the people who use already IRC nowadays know how to fix many problems by themselves
[21:12] <gnrp> and if these problems are not fixable, they are usually not related to xubuntu