| anon_88754 | hi | 00:15 |
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| anon_88754 | JOIN kubuntu | 00:18 |
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| sacarde | hi | 08:51 |
| sacarde | in kubuntu-18.04 I would like to enable root access | 08:53 |
| sacarde | I inser root password, but in sddm login I cant access | 08:54 |
| enyc | sacarde: lots of parts of systems have safeguards to stop them running as root | 09:01 |
| enyc | sacarde: you can login as root at linux text consoles I expect | 09:02 |
| enyc | sacarde: in short, graphical login as root is seen as bad idea generally | 09:02 |
| Mekaneck | sacarde: Kubuntu 18.04 is EOL and not supported anymore | 09:10 |
| Mekaneck | either upgrade to 20.04 or perform a clean install | 09:10 |
| sacarde | not until 23.04 ? | 09:13 |
| Mekaneck | no | 09:16 |
| Mekaneck | Ubuntu LTS is supported for five years on the desktop, all other LTS flavors only 3 years | 09:17 |
| Unit193 | To shed light on this, https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-18-04-lts-bionic-beaver-reaches-end-of-kubuntu-support/ | 09:17 |
| Mekaneck | support for the 18.04 LTS flavores ended end of April | 09:18 |
| Mekaneck | Unit193: thanks | 09:18 |
| sacarde | ah, ok | 09:18 |
| sacarde | and service ESM ? for personal use | 09:19 |
| Unit193 | ESM doesn't cover anything in universe. | 09:20 |
| Mekaneck | sacarde: ESM is only for Ubuntu, not it's flavours | 09:21 |
| sacarde | ah, ok | 09:21 |
| Mekaneck | and is for LTS versions that reached EOL, thus 14.04 and 16.04. | 09:21 |
| Mekaneck | Since Ubuntu 18.04 is still supported until 2023 it doesn't have ESM yet | 09:22 |
| Unit193 | Isn't there an application, `ubuntu-support-status`? | 09:22 |
| Unit193 | !find bin/ubuntu-support | 09:22 |
| ubottu | Package/file bin/ubuntu-support does not exist in hirsute | 09:23 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:45 |
| krytarik | !find ubuntu-support | 14:46 |
| ubottu | Package/file ubuntu-support does not exist in hirsute | 14:46 |
| whatamievendoing | hi all, when trying to update my kubuntu I see the info "The repository "http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu eoan Release" no longer has as release file. OK but what do I do now? no info is shown about that. | 16:53 |
| krytarik | !eoan | whatamievendoing | 16:55 |
| ubottu | whatamievendoing: Ubuntu 19.10 (Eoan Ermine) was the 31st release of Ubuntu, support ended July 2020. See !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2020-July/005494.html | 16:55 |
| whatamievendoing | thanks so sudo apt-get install update-manager-core says is on latest version 1:19.04.8 | 16:59 |
| whatamievendoing | and do-release-upgrade -d says updating to dev version is only possible from latest dev version | 16:59 |
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| Mamarok | whatamievendoing: why upgrade to a dev version? you can jsut upgrade to the next regular one | 17:01 |
| whatamievendoing | mamarok - this sounds like a fantastic idea. my question though is: how would I do that? | 17:02 |
| krytarik | It might be easier and more secure to just reinstall fresh at this point. | 17:02 |
| whatamievendoing | so I cannot update ubuntu? | 17:02 |
| whatamievendoing | or kubuntu | 17:02 |
| krytarik | Well, you are about a year late for that.. | 17:02 |
| whatamievendoing | seriously? | 17:02 |
| whatamievendoing | that must be a bad joke | 17:02 |
| RikMills | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 17:02 |
| whatamievendoing | so humans can upgrade but if they miss the train, lets just leave them behind?! | 17:03 |
| RikMills | see my link | 17:03 |
| whatamievendoing | hm this is a rabbit hole "make sure you have a sources.list like" then a link to another KB? | 17:04 |
| whatamievendoing | why is updating on linux so hard? | 17:04 |
| krytarik | And I used the term "secure" here because you've been running an unpatched system for about a year now. | 17:05 |
| Mamarok | it is not if you follow that guide, just read it first. And try not to think of updating your isntallation only every 18 months... | 17:05 |
| whatamievendoing | well guess what: I have not been running it, that is why it is outdated. glad we could establish that fact | 17:05 |
| Mamarok | whatamievendoing: don't be mad at us, we try to help you | 17:06 |
| whatamievendoing | I am not mad at you. I am astonished at the fact how update mechanisms work on kubuntu | 17:06 |
| Mamarok | it all depends when you upgrade, if you miss a few releases it gets a little bit more complex | 17:07 |
| whatamievendoing | and the elitest reply trying to indicate this is my fault for not updating in x months is very bewildering | 17:07 |
| Mamarok | else it is jsut straightforward | 17:07 |
| Mamarok | oh well, suit yourself... | 17:07 |
| whatamievendoing | it is just trouble I never experienced with apple | 17:08 |
| whatamievendoing | we can all agree what a horrible company apple is, but updates is something they got working | 17:08 |
| whatamievendoing | and I so wish linux would see broader usage | 17:08 |
| whatamievendoing | it won't if users have to study computer science for not updating for 18 months | 17:08 |
| whatamievendoing | and I thought slowly but surely such issues would have been solved over the years | 17:09 |
| Mamarok | *sigh* | 17:09 |
| whatamievendoing | think sudo do-release-upgrade does something | 17:11 |
| whatamievendoing | awesome - back in business - thanks for helping out. it would be really great if the OS itself would provide the right KB documents. just showing some technical error is not helpful to most users. | 17:14 |
| whatamievendoing | and worse showing the technical error for a few seconds before it automatically vanishes | 17:14 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Thông> pamac build lightly-qt | 18:45 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Thông> (pamac build lightly-qt pamac command not found ) who can explain and give solution | 18:46 |
| Mamarok | what is that command supposed to do? | 19:55 |
| Mamarok | never seen that | 19:56 |
| Mamarok | so maybe some more contaxt on what you try to do would be helpful | 19:56 |
| sohardtodebug | when I search for updates in 20.10 with discover I see no updates but an error message "W: Target Packages (main/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:5 and /etc/apt/sources.list:50 | 20:13 |
| sohardtodebug | how can I resolve this? | 20:13 |
| sohardtodebug | this is the sources.list file https://bin.disroot.org/?5db51899a389c21b#GHvHZsLHXhFJKJ4aG1zHdKTjw2JwWFBbxZPenZ6i2rmo | 20:15 |
| sohardtodebug | sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop says I need to install all available updates before updating the system but then discover complains and does not find any update | 20:26 |
| sohardtodebug | any idea? currently on 20.10 and wuold like to update to 21.04 | 20:29 |
| Mamarok | sohardtodebug: the last three lines in your sources list are duplicates, those are probably responsible for the error message | 20:33 |
| sohardtodebug | ok will remove | 20:33 |
| Mamarok | the same sources are already configured earlier. You can find out easily by checking the line number | 20:33 |
| Mamarok | line number 5 is again configured in line 50 | 20:33 |
| sohardtodebug | right, error message is gone. | 20:34 |
| sohardtodebug | so now I am stuck on the situation where 20.10 says uptodate and sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop still says: update all updates for your version before updating system | 20:36 |
| Mamarok | run sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade again | 20:36 |
| sohardtodebug | apt list --upgradable | 20:38 |
| sohardtodebug | Auflistung… Fertig | 20:38 |
| sohardtodebug | dh-python/groovy,groovy 4.20200925 all [aktualisierbar von: 4.20191017ubuntu7] | 20:38 |
| sohardtodebug | N: Es gibt 1 zusätzliche Version. Bitte verwenden Sie die Option »-a«, um sie anzuzeigen. | 20:38 |
| sohardtodebug | not sure how to upgrade if that is the upgrade that is missing | 20:38 |
| Mamarok | there might be another one, try apt-list --upgradable -a | 20:39 |
| sohardtodebug | ok right, now I understand what the message is trying to tell me. with option -a | 20:41 |
| sohardtodebug | apt -list --upgradable -a says can't interpret option | 20:43 |
| Mamarok | what do you get when you run sudo apt upgrade ? | 20:45 |
| sohardtodebug | 0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 1 nicht aktualisiert. | 20:46 |
| sohardtodebug | 0 updated 0 new installs, 0 to be removed and 1 not updated | 20:46 |
| sohardtodebug | guess that is the one listed above | 20:46 |
| Mamarok | I guess there is a package conflict | 20:46 |
| Mamarok | let me check that sources lsit again | 20:46 |
| sohardtodebug | thanks ❤️ | 20:47 |
| Mamarok | no, nothing there I can see, try running this | 20:48 |
| Mamarok | sudo dpkg --configure -a | 20:48 |
| sohardtodebug | has no output | 20:48 |
| Mamarok | that is correct | 20:48 |
| Mamarok | the pyhton package there probably has a packaging conflict, you can force upgrade it, let me check the exact syntax | 20:50 |
| sohardtodebug | if that is possible maybe it resolves the situation where 21.04 update is blocked by that | 20:51 |
| Mamarok | try sudo apt reinstall dh-python | 20:55 |
| sohardtodebug | fantastic - now seeing 21.04 update | 20:57 |
| sohardtodebug | Mamarok thank you so much! without you I would have been stuck. | 20:58 |
| Mamarok | sohardtodebug: you are welcome :-) | 20:59 |
| sohardtodebug | slight OT: stoked to see linux grow in the last three months https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-202005-202106 any idea why that is? and also any idea why unknown os is growing so fast in past few months? | 21:01 |
| Mekaneck | sohardtodebug: that's not slight offtopic, it is offtopic since it has nothing to do with a Kubuntu support question | 21:08 |
| Mekaneck | so it belongs in #kubuntu-offtopic | 21:08 |
| sohardtodebug | ok will ask there | 21:14 |
| sohardtodebug | argh no running into trouble during 21.04 update: https://imgur.com/a/D681FWP | 21:18 |
| sohardtodebug | *now | 21:20 |
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