[00:15] hi [00:18] JOIN kubuntu === popey6 is now known as popey === andrei is now known as Guest8414 === desktopaistack is now known as desktopaistack_ [08:51] hi [08:53] in kubuntu-18.04 I would like to enable root access [08:54] I inser root password, but in sddm login I cant access [09:01] sacarde: lots of parts of systems have safeguards to stop them running as root [09:02] sacarde: you can login as root at linux text consoles I expect [09:02] sacarde: in short, graphical login as root is seen as bad idea generally [09:10] sacarde: Kubuntu 18.04 is EOL and not supported anymore [09:10] either upgrade to 20.04 or perform a clean install [09:13] not until 23.04 ? [09:16] no [09:17] Ubuntu LTS is supported for five years on the desktop, all other LTS flavors only 3 years [09:17] To shed light on this, https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-18-04-lts-bionic-beaver-reaches-end-of-kubuntu-support/ [09:18] support for the 18.04 LTS flavores ended end of April [09:18] Unit193: thanks [09:18] ah, ok [09:19] and service ESM ? for personal use [09:20] ESM doesn't cover anything in universe. [09:21] sacarde: ESM is only for Ubuntu, not it's flavours [09:21] ah, ok [09:21] and is for LTS versions that reached EOL, thus 14.04 and 16.04. [09:22] Since Ubuntu 18.04 is still supported until 2023 it doesn't have ESM yet [09:22] Isn't there an application, `ubuntu-support-status`? [09:22] !find bin/ubuntu-support [09:23] Package/file bin/ubuntu-support does not exist in hirsute [13:45] Hi all [14:46] !find ubuntu-support [14:46] Package/file ubuntu-support does not exist in hirsute [16:53] hi all, when trying to update my kubuntu I see the info "The repository "http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu eoan Release" no longer has as release file. OK but what do I do now? no info is shown about that. [16:55] !eoan | whatamievendoing [16:55] whatamievendoing: Ubuntu 19.10 (Eoan Ermine) was the 31st release of Ubuntu, support ended July 2020. See !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2020-July/005494.html [16:59] thanks so sudo apt-get install update-manager-core says is on latest version 1:19.04.8 [16:59] and do-release-upgrade -d says updating to dev version is only possible from latest dev version === Mamarok is now known as Mamarok_ === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok [17:01] whatamievendoing: why upgrade to a dev version? you can jsut upgrade to the next regular one [17:02] mamarok - this sounds like a fantastic idea. my question though is: how would I do that? [17:02] It might be easier and more secure to just reinstall fresh at this point. [17:02] so I cannot update ubuntu? [17:02] or kubuntu [17:02] Well, you are about a year late for that.. [17:02] seriously? [17:02] that must be a bad joke [17:02] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [17:03] so humans can upgrade but if they miss the train, lets just leave them behind?! [17:03] see my link [17:04] hm this is a rabbit hole "make sure you have a sources.list like" then a link to another KB? [17:04] why is updating on linux so hard? [17:05] And I used the term "secure" here because you've been running an unpatched system for about a year now. [17:05] it is not if you follow that guide, just read it first. And try not to think of updating your isntallation only every 18 months... [17:05] well guess what: I have not been running it, that is why it is outdated. glad we could establish that fact [17:06] whatamievendoing: don't be mad at us, we try to help you [17:06] I am not mad at you. I am astonished at the fact how update mechanisms work on kubuntu [17:07] it all depends when you upgrade, if you miss a few releases it gets a little bit more complex [17:07] and the elitest reply trying to indicate this is my fault for not updating in x months is very bewildering [17:07] else it is jsut straightforward [17:07] oh well, suit yourself... [17:08] it is just trouble I never experienced with apple [17:08] we can all agree what a horrible company apple is, but updates is something they got working [17:08] and I so wish linux would see broader usage [17:08] it won't if users have to study computer science for not updating for 18 months [17:09] and I thought slowly but surely such issues would have been solved over the years [17:09] *sigh* [17:11] think sudo do-release-upgrade does something [17:14] awesome - back in business - thanks for helping out. it would be really great if the OS itself would provide the right KB documents. just showing some technical error is not helpful to most users. [17:14] and worse showing the technical error for a few seconds before it automatically vanishes [18:45] pamac build lightly-qt [18:46] (pamac build lightly-qt pamac command not found ) who can explain and give solution [19:55] what is that command supposed to do? [19:56] never seen that [19:56] so maybe some more contaxt on what you try to do would be helpful [20:13] when I search for updates in 20.10 with discover I see no updates but an error message "W: Target Packages (main/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:5 and /etc/apt/sources.list:50 [20:13] how can I resolve this? [20:15] this is the sources.list file https://bin.disroot.org/?5db51899a389c21b#GHvHZsLHXhFJKJ4aG1zHdKTjw2JwWFBbxZPenZ6i2rmo [20:26] sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop says I need to install all available updates before updating the system but then discover complains and does not find any update [20:29] any idea? currently on 20.10 and wuold like to update to 21.04 [20:33] sohardtodebug: the last three lines in your sources list are duplicates, those are probably responsible for the error message [20:33] ok will remove [20:33] the same sources are already configured earlier. You can find out easily by checking the line number [20:33] line number 5 is again configured in line 50 [20:34] right, error message is gone. [20:36] so now I am stuck on the situation where 20.10 says uptodate and sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop still says: update all updates for your version before updating system [20:36] run sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade again [20:38] apt list --upgradable [20:38] Auflistung… Fertig [20:38] dh-python/groovy,groovy 4.20200925 all [aktualisierbar von: 4.20191017ubuntu7] [20:38] N: Es gibt 1 zusätzliche Version. Bitte verwenden Sie die Option »-a«, um sie anzuzeigen. [20:38] not sure how to upgrade if that is the upgrade that is missing [20:39] there might be another one, try apt-list --upgradable -a [20:41] ok right, now I understand what the message is trying to tell me. with option -a [20:43] apt -list --upgradable -a says can't interpret option [20:45] what do you get when you run sudo apt upgrade ? [20:46] 0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 1 nicht aktualisiert. [20:46] 0 updated 0 new installs, 0 to be removed and 1 not updated [20:46] guess that is the one listed above [20:46] I guess there is a package conflict [20:46] let me check that sources lsit again [20:47] thanks ❤️ [20:48] no, nothing there I can see, try running this [20:48] sudo dpkg --configure -a [20:48] has no output [20:48] that is correct [20:50] the pyhton package there probably has a packaging conflict, you can force upgrade it, let me check the exact syntax [20:51] if that is possible maybe it resolves the situation where 21.04 update is blocked by that [20:55] try sudo apt reinstall dh-python [20:57] fantastic - now seeing 21.04 update [20:58] Mamarok thank you so much! without you I would have been stuck. [20:59] sohardtodebug: you are welcome :-) [21:01] slight OT: stoked to see linux grow in the last three months https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-202005-202106 any idea why that is? and also any idea why unknown os is growing so fast in past few months? [21:08] sohardtodebug: that's not slight offtopic, it is offtopic since it has nothing to do with a Kubuntu support question [21:08] so it belongs in #kubuntu-offtopic [21:14] ok will ask there [21:18] argh no running into trouble during 21.04 update: https://imgur.com/a/D681FWP [21:20] *now