[00:15] <anon_88754> hi
[00:18] <anon_88754> JOIN kubuntu
[08:51] <sacarde> hi
[08:53] <sacarde> in kubuntu-18.04 I would like to enable root access
[08:54] <sacarde> I inser root password, but in sddm login I cant access
[09:01] <enyc> sacarde: lots of parts of systems have safeguards to stop them running as root
[09:02] <enyc> sacarde: you can login as root at linux text consoles I expect
[09:02] <enyc> sacarde: in short, graphical login as root is seen as bad idea generally
[09:10] <Mekaneck> sacarde: Kubuntu 18.04 is EOL and not supported anymore
[09:10] <Mekaneck> either upgrade to 20.04 or perform a clean install
[09:13] <sacarde> not until 23.04 ?
[09:16] <Mekaneck> no
[09:17] <Mekaneck> Ubuntu LTS is supported for five years on the desktop, all other LTS flavors only 3 years
[09:17] <Unit193> To shed light on this, https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-18-04-lts-bionic-beaver-reaches-end-of-kubuntu-support/
[09:18] <Mekaneck> support for the 18.04 LTS flavores ended end of April
[09:18] <Mekaneck> Unit193: thanks
[09:18] <sacarde> ah, ok
[09:19] <sacarde> and service ESM ? for personal use
[09:20] <Unit193> ESM doesn't cover anything in universe.
[09:21] <Mekaneck> sacarde: ESM is only for Ubuntu, not it's flavours
[09:21] <sacarde> ah, ok
[09:21] <Mekaneck> and is for LTS versions that reached EOL, thus 14.04 and 16.04.
[09:22] <Mekaneck> Since Ubuntu 18.04 is still supported until 2023 it doesn't have ESM yet
[09:22] <Unit193> Isn't there an application, `ubuntu-support-status`?
[09:22] <Unit193> !find bin/ubuntu-support
[13:45] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:46] <krytarik> !find ubuntu-support
[16:53] <whatamievendoing> hi all, when trying to update my kubuntu I see the info "The repository "http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu eoan Release" no longer has as release file. OK but what do I do now? no info is shown about that.
[16:55] <krytarik> !eoan | whatamievendoing
[16:59] <whatamievendoing> thanks so sudo apt-get install update-manager-core says is on latest version 1:19.04.8
[16:59] <whatamievendoing> and do-release-upgrade -d says updating to dev version is only possible from latest dev version
[17:01] <Mamarok> whatamievendoing: why upgrade to a dev version? you can jsut upgrade to the next regular one
[17:02] <whatamievendoing> mamarok - this sounds like a fantastic idea. my question though is: how would I do that?
[17:02] <krytarik> It might be easier and more secure to just reinstall fresh at this point.
[17:02] <whatamievendoing> so I cannot update ubuntu?
[17:02] <whatamievendoing> or kubuntu
[17:02] <krytarik> Well, you are about a year late for that..
[17:02] <whatamievendoing> seriously?
[17:02] <whatamievendoing> that must be a bad joke
[17:02] <RikMills> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[17:03] <whatamievendoing> so humans can upgrade but if they miss the train, lets just leave them behind?!
[17:03] <RikMills> see my link
[17:04] <whatamievendoing> hm this is a rabbit hole "make sure you have a sources.list like" then a link to another KB?
[17:04] <whatamievendoing> why is updating on linux so hard?
[17:05] <krytarik> And I used the term "secure" here because you've been running an unpatched system for about a year now.
[17:05] <Mamarok> it is not if you follow that guide, just read it first. And try not to think of updating your isntallation only every 18 months...
[17:05] <whatamievendoing> well guess what: I have not been running it, that is why it is outdated. glad we could establish that fact
[17:06] <Mamarok> whatamievendoing: don't be mad at us, we try to help you
[17:06] <whatamievendoing> I am not mad at you. I am astonished at the fact how update mechanisms work on kubuntu
[17:07] <Mamarok> it all depends when you upgrade, if you miss a few releases it gets a little bit more complex
[17:07] <whatamievendoing> and the elitest reply trying to indicate this is my fault for not updating in x months is very bewildering
[17:07] <Mamarok> else it is jsut straightforward
[17:07] <Mamarok> oh well, suit yourself...
[17:08] <whatamievendoing> it is just trouble I never experienced with apple
[17:08] <whatamievendoing> we can all agree what a horrible company apple is, but updates is something they got working
[17:08] <whatamievendoing> and I so wish linux would see broader usage
[17:08] <whatamievendoing> it won't if users have to study computer science for not updating for 18 months
[17:09] <whatamievendoing> and I thought slowly but surely such issues would have been solved over the years
[17:09] <Mamarok> *sigh*
[17:11] <whatamievendoing> think sudo do-release-upgrade does something
[17:14] <whatamievendoing> awesome - back in business - thanks for helping out. it would be really great if the OS itself would provide the right KB documents. just showing some technical error is not helpful to most users.
[17:14] <whatamievendoing> and worse showing the technical error for a few seconds before it automatically vanishes
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 (pamac build lightly-qt    pamac command not found ) who can explain and give solution
[19:55] <Mamarok> what is that command supposed to do?
[19:56] <Mamarok> never seen that
[19:56] <Mamarok> so maybe some more contaxt on what you try to do would be helpful
[20:13] <sohardtodebug> when I search for updates in 20.10 with discover I see no updates but an error message "W: Target Packages (main/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:5 and /etc/apt/sources.list:50
[20:13] <sohardtodebug> how can I resolve this?
[20:15] <sohardtodebug> this is the sources.list file https://bin.disroot.org/?5db51899a389c21b#GHvHZsLHXhFJKJ4aG1zHdKTjw2JwWFBbxZPenZ6i2rmo
[20:26] <sohardtodebug> sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop says I need to install all available updates before updating the system but then discover complains and does not find any update
[20:29] <sohardtodebug> any idea? currently on 20.10 and wuold like to update to 21.04
[20:33] <Mamarok> sohardtodebug: the last three lines in your sources list are duplicates, those are probably responsible for the error message
[20:33] <sohardtodebug> ok will remove
[20:33] <Mamarok> the same sources are already configured earlier. You can find out easily by checking the line number
[20:33] <Mamarok> line number 5 is again configured in line 50
[20:34] <sohardtodebug> right, error message is gone.
[20:36] <sohardtodebug> so now I am stuck on the situation where 20.10 says uptodate and sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop still says: update all updates for your version before updating system
[20:36] <Mamarok> run sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade again
[20:38] <sohardtodebug> apt list --upgradable
[20:38] <sohardtodebug> Auflistung… Fertig
[20:38] <sohardtodebug> dh-python/groovy,groovy 4.20200925 all [aktualisierbar von: 4.20191017ubuntu7]
[20:38] <sohardtodebug> N: Es gibt 1 zusätzliche Version. Bitte verwenden Sie die Option »-a«, um sie anzuzeigen.
[20:38] <sohardtodebug> not sure how to upgrade if that is the upgrade that is missing
[20:39] <Mamarok> there might be another one, try apt-list --upgradable -a
[20:41] <sohardtodebug> ok right, now I understand what the message is trying to tell me. with option -a
[20:43] <sohardtodebug> apt -list --upgradable -a says can't interpret option
[20:45] <Mamarok> what do you get when you run sudo apt upgrade ?
[20:46] <sohardtodebug> 0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 1 nicht aktualisiert.
[20:46] <sohardtodebug> 0 updated 0 new installs, 0 to be removed and 1 not updated
[20:46] <sohardtodebug> guess that is the one listed above
[20:46] <Mamarok> I guess there is a package conflict
[20:46] <Mamarok> let me check that sources lsit again
[20:47] <sohardtodebug> thanks ❤️
[20:48] <Mamarok> no, nothing there I can see, try running this
[20:48] <Mamarok> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[20:48] <sohardtodebug> has no output
[20:48] <Mamarok> that is correct
[20:50] <Mamarok> the pyhton package there probably has a packaging conflict, you can force upgrade it, let me check the exact syntax
[20:51] <sohardtodebug> if that is possible maybe it resolves the situation where 21.04 update is blocked by that
[20:55] <Mamarok> try sudo apt reinstall dh-python
[20:57] <sohardtodebug> fantastic - now seeing 21.04 update
[20:58] <sohardtodebug> Mamarok thank you so much! without you I would have been stuck.
[20:59] <Mamarok> sohardtodebug: you are welcome :-)
[21:01] <sohardtodebug> slight OT: stoked to see linux grow in the last three months https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-202005-202106 any idea why that is? and also any idea why unknown os is growing so fast in past few months?
[21:08] <Mekaneck> sohardtodebug: that's not slight offtopic, it is offtopic since it has nothing to do with a Kubuntu support question
[21:08] <Mekaneck> so it belongs in #kubuntu-offtopic
[21:14] <sohardtodebug> ok will ask there
[21:18] <sohardtodebug> argh no running into trouble during 21.04 update: https://imgur.com/a/D681FWP
[21:20] <sohardtodebug> *now