| === popey6 is now known as popey | ||
| ball | For a backup disk, is there a good reason to use ext4 or ext3 rather than ext2? | 15:35 |
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| penguin42 | ball: The journals on 3/4 area bit more tolerant of not being properly unmounted | 15:37 |
| ball | Thanks. | 15:38 |
| daftykins | weekend \o/ | 15:38 |
| daftykins | i've been configuring NUT the UPS management software today | 15:39 |
| ball | daftykins: How's it working out? | 15:39 |
| daftykins | pretty good! just invoked a test, all the VMs on the host were successfully shutdown, followed by the host itself | 15:40 |
| daftykins | need to work out how to get a Synology NAS to pay attention too, got it as far as being able to query the master | 15:40 |
| ball | It's good to get those in the right order. | 15:40 |
| ball | daftykins: Can you set the exhaustion level at which shutdown occurs or are you doing it when AC fails? | 15:41 |
| daftykins | oh yeah you get to define all the limit levels | 15:42 |
| penguin42 | and do you have Majel Barret's voice telling you about it? | 15:42 |
| ball | penguin42++ | 15:42 |
| * daftykins powers the server back on via iDRAC | 15:42 | |
| * penguin42 likes the DRACs - I tend to use them transatlantically | 15:44 | |
| daftykins | i'm glad this one has behaved after being factory reset, it was really causing trouble after the system arrived in Exeter | 15:44 |
| ball | I went kayaking in the sea at Exeter. | 15:45 |
| ball | Those were the days! | 15:45 |
| penguin42 | probably not with a dell server.... | 15:45 |
| daftykins | maybe with all the parts removed | 15:46 |
| ball | Of course! Where do you think Microsoft got the idea for their "underwater datacentres"? | 15:46 |
| penguin42 | using rack kits as paddles? | 15:46 |
| daftykins | and most of the... no, what am i thinking, even an aluminium chassis wouldn't displace more than it weighed | 15:46 |
| * ball looks glum | 15:48 | |
| ball | I need a handful of 32 Gbyte microSHDC cards. | 15:49 |
| daftykins | o0 | 15:49 |
| ball | ...and they've doubled in price due to the "chip shortage". | 15:50 |
| ball | Mostly unrelated: I need a faster computer. | 15:51 |
| daftykins | this for an army of Pis or something o0 | 15:51 |
| penguin42 | ball: Well, I'd offer you my 16 core Ryzen if the damn thing hadn't died :-( | 15:51 |
| ball | daftykins: One for a Pi 2B, one for a tablet, one for my daughter's GoPro | 15:52 |
| daftykins | once my pal notices my messages he'll be able to power the Synology NAS back on, then i can investigate the correct config xD | 16:00 |
| daftykins | pleased with that, there was a bit of hassle considering which device would make a good master... right now i'm using the Dell host OS (XCP-ng) as it | 16:02 |
| daftykins | so i don't even bother with shutdown of the pfSense router right now | 16:02 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: can it do wake-on-ether? | 16:04 |
| daftykins | can't reach it to find out xD | 16:07 |
| penguin42 | can you reach something else on the LAN? | 16:08 |
| daftykins | i'm in no hurry, i don't know its' MAC though | 16:10 |
| penguin42 | bound to be in a log somewhere :-) | 16:43 |
| daftykins | hehe | 16:44 |
| daftykins | ah well, it's why we test, to find out the shortcomings! | 16:45 |
| ball | What does it mean when the terminal cursor stops flashing? | 17:26 |
| daftykins | yessss \o/ Synology now reading the UPS status | 17:27 |
| ball | daftykins: from the physical VM host via upsnut? | 17:27 |
| daftykins | yep, Synology being the NAS appliance on the LAN - it's a slave reading from the server host | 17:29 |
| * ball nods | 17:30 | |
| ball | I'm glad that's working. | 17:31 |
| daftykins | kinda nuts 'cause the GUI web admin doesn't support it, so you have to hand-edit the config | 17:31 |
| ball | Is the NAS part of the UPS load? | 17:31 |
| daftykins | yep | 17:31 |
| ball | I'm glad you got it working. | 17:31 |
| daftykins | "ups.load: 24" :D | 17:31 |
| ball | Oh, I just said that. :-) | 17:31 |
| daftykins | what situation are you seeing the cursor thing in? | 17:32 |
| ball | daftykins: Most recent case was during a dd job. | 17:32 |
| daftykins | hrmm | 17:32 |
| daftykins | only used to seeing a change when the terminal isn't the active window, really | 17:35 |
| daftykins | assuming the input is correct - i'm quite fond of "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx bs=4M status=progress" for example | 17:35 |
| ball | That's essentially what I did, though if pointed to an image. | 17:38 |
| ball | ...and bs=16384 | 17:38 |
| daftykins | assume you're prepping microSDs, i'd probably open another term and check "dmesg | tail" output in case the card is unhappy | 17:48 |
| ball | I did look at dmesg output after the dd job was done. No major complaints and the card seems to work fine in the target system. | 17:51 |
| daftykins | little bit weird | 17:51 |
| daftykins | ah, so pleased with today's progress... been meaning to get around to that for ages, but i kept umm-ing and arr-ing about which device i wanted to be master | 17:56 |
| daftykins | i got really close but network chat wasn't working, then i spotted iptables blocking the daemon port on the host :) | 17:57 |
| ball | I think it makes sense the way you've described it. | 17:57 |
| daftykins | yeah, the server is the priority really, best for it to shutdown safely | 17:58 |
| * ball nods | 17:59 | |
| daftykins | ooh i spy the domestic LAN doing some light HLS traffic according to his router, i detect kids entertainment time! :D | 18:01 |
| ball | What's HLS? | 18:05 |
| ball | Video streaming? | 18:05 |
| daftykins | HTTP live streaming, mmm | 18:05 |
| ball | Ah ok. | 18:05 |
| daftykins | fires off in little bursts of throughput as the player grabs another chunk of a few seconds here and there | 18:05 |
| daftykins | easy to spot on traffic graphs :D | 18:05 |
| * ball doesn't get traffic graphs, even at the office. | 18:06 | |
| ball | That reminds me: I'm supposed to be building a router. | 18:06 |
| daftykins | oh o0 | 18:06 |
| ball | It'll have to wait until I've had time to read up on npf and VLANs. | 18:07 |
| ball | I wonder how much the telco would charge to install and maintain a router for us. | 18:07 |
| daftykins | ah dealing with VLANs has totally made me rethink how i design things | 18:07 |
| daftykins | very cool to offer clients an entirely separately routed guest WiFi network that keeps guests away from the LAN their own office kit is on, say | 18:08 |
| ball | daftykins: That's a big motivation for me. At present our WiFi is *just* for guests. | 18:08 |
| daftykins | hrmm probably too much! only a couple of hundred quid for a 24 port PoE+ switch | 18:08 |
| ball | We have the switch already. | 18:08 |
| ball | ...it's the router we need. | 18:08 |
| daftykins | mmm, derp... not sure how i switched the two, was probably thinking about lovely VLANs on a managed switch | 18:09 |
| daftykins | a nice pfSense appliance from netgate would be nice \o/ | 18:09 |
| ball | Hmm... ok. | 18:10 |
| daftykins | depends on the tech in use on the incoming pipe, # users, whether remote access is desired, the usual | 18:14 |
| ball | Last time I looked it was about six concurrent users on an ADSL circuit. | 18:17 |
| ball | (not including guests) | 18:17 |
| daftykins | ah pretty trivial then | 18:17 |
| ball | Should be. | 18:18 |
| ball | Still a bit for me to learn though. | 18:18 |
| ball | brb, pressing a button... | 18:18 |
| * daftykins braces himself | 18:19 | |
| daftykins | now i have the pfSense tuned into the UPS status :D | 18:19 |
| * ball grins | 18:23 | |
| daftykins | if the office is in a biz sector that values security, pfSense would be worth it... if not, probably not so much | 18:26 |
| ball | We're a non-profit. | 18:27 |
| daftykins | hrmm probably overkill, they tend not to include WiFi so i to that with separate Ubiquiti APs | 18:28 |
| daftykins | so you end up with a 3 box solution minimum, 4 boxes if you adds an xDSL transceiver | 18:28 |
| ball | I don't want WiFi in the router anyway. | 18:28 |
| ball | We already have APs plugged into a PoE switch. | 18:28 |
| daftykins | funky, hopefully they're decent enough they can have SSIDs configured with VLANs associated to make a nice isolated guest network \o/ | 18:29 |
| ball | They support it, I'd just have to figure out how to configure it. | 18:30 |
| ball | (to work with the router) | 18:30 |
| daftykins | the switch would need to be managed as well really | 18:30 |
| daftykins | that lets you do them all over a single network cable to the AP \o/ | 18:30 |
| ball | the switch supports it too, I think. | 18:30 |
| ball | I should probably check the WX site for tornado warnings. | 18:31 |
| ball | Watches for tornado and flash flooding. "Heavy rain". | 18:33 |
| daftykins | ooh err | 18:33 |
| ball | Looks like it's blowing over now but there's more behind it. | 18:34 |
| * daftykins pops LGR on - https://youtu.be/mpayqVGmKyo | 18:44 | |
| ball | I'm watching Geoff Marshall on a Pendolino. | 18:54 |
| Myrtti | nice | 20:37 |
| daftykins | g'night all \o | 21:22 |
| ball | Goodnight daftykins! | 23:56 |
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