[15:35] <ball> For a backup disk, is there a good reason to use ext4 or ext3 rather than ext2?
[15:37] <penguin42> ball: The journals on 3/4 area bit more tolerant of not being properly unmounted
[15:38] <ball> Thanks.
[15:38] <daftykins> weekend \o/
[15:39] <daftykins> i've been configuring NUT the UPS management software today
[15:39] <ball> daftykins: How's it working out?
[15:40] <daftykins> pretty good! just invoked a test, all the VMs on the host were successfully shutdown, followed by the host itself
[15:40] <daftykins> need to work out how to get a Synology NAS to pay attention too, got it as far as being able to query the master
[15:40] <ball> It's good to get those in the right order.
[15:41] <ball> daftykins: Can you set the exhaustion level at which shutdown occurs or are you doing it when AC fails?
[15:42] <daftykins> oh yeah you get to define all the limit levels
[15:42] <penguin42> and do you have Majel Barret's voice telling you about it?
[15:42] <ball> penguin42++
[15:42]  * daftykins powers the server back on via iDRAC
[15:44]  * penguin42 likes the DRACs - I tend to use them transatlantically
[15:44] <daftykins> i'm glad this one has behaved after being factory reset, it was really causing trouble after the system arrived in Exeter
[15:45] <ball> I went kayaking in the sea at Exeter.
[15:45] <ball> Those were the days!
[15:45] <penguin42> probably not with a dell server....
[15:46] <daftykins> maybe with all the parts removed
[15:46] <ball> Of course!  Where do you think Microsoft got the idea for their "underwater datacentres"?
[15:46] <penguin42> using rack kits as paddles?
[15:46] <daftykins> and most of the... no, what am i thinking, even an aluminium chassis wouldn't displace more than it weighed
[15:48]  * ball looks glum
[15:49] <ball> I need a handful of 32 Gbyte microSHDC cards.
[15:49] <daftykins> o0
[15:50] <ball> ...and they've doubled in price due to the "chip shortage".
[15:51] <ball> Mostly unrelated: I need a faster computer.
[15:51] <daftykins> this for an army of Pis or something o0
[15:51] <penguin42> ball: Well, I'd offer you my 16 core Ryzen if the damn thing hadn't died :-(
[15:52] <ball> daftykins: One for a Pi 2B, one for a tablet, one for my daughter's GoPro
[16:00] <daftykins> once my pal notices my messages he'll be able to power the Synology NAS back on, then i can investigate the correct config xD
[16:02] <daftykins> pleased with that, there was a bit of hassle considering which device would make a good master... right now i'm using the Dell host OS (XCP-ng) as it
[16:02] <daftykins> so i don't even bother with shutdown of the pfSense router right now
[16:04] <penguin42> daftykins: can it do wake-on-ether?
[16:07] <daftykins> can't reach it to find out xD
[16:08] <penguin42> can you reach something else on the LAN?
[16:10] <daftykins> i'm in no hurry, i don't know its' MAC though
[16:43] <penguin42> bound to be in a log somewhere :-)
[16:44] <daftykins> hehe
[16:45] <daftykins> ah well, it's why we test, to find out the shortcomings!
[17:26] <ball> What does it mean when the terminal cursor stops flashing?
[17:27] <daftykins> yessss \o/ Synology now reading the UPS status
[17:27] <ball> daftykins: from the physical VM host via upsnut?
[17:29] <daftykins> yep, Synology being the NAS appliance on the LAN - it's a slave reading from the server host
[17:30]  * ball nods
[17:31] <ball> I'm glad that's working.
[17:31] <daftykins> kinda nuts 'cause the GUI web admin doesn't support it, so you have to hand-edit the config
[17:31] <ball> Is the NAS part of the UPS load?
[17:31] <daftykins> yep
[17:31] <ball> I'm glad you got it working.
[17:31] <daftykins> "ups.load: 24" :D
[17:31] <ball> Oh, I just said that. :-)
[17:32] <daftykins> what situation are you seeing the cursor thing in?
[17:32] <ball> daftykins: Most recent case was during a dd job.
[17:32] <daftykins> hrmm
[17:35] <daftykins> only used to seeing a change when the terminal isn't the active window, really
[17:35] <daftykins> assuming the input is correct - i'm quite fond of "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx bs=4M status=progress" for example
[17:38] <ball> That's essentially what I did, though if pointed to an image.
[17:38] <ball> ...and bs=16384
[17:48] <daftykins> assume you're prepping microSDs, i'd probably open another term and check "dmesg | tail" output in case the card is unhappy
[17:51] <ball> I did look at dmesg output after the dd job was done.  No major complaints and the card seems to work fine in the target system.
[17:51] <daftykins> little bit weird
[17:56] <daftykins> ah, so pleased with today's progress... been meaning to get around to that for ages, but i kept umm-ing and arr-ing about which device i wanted to be master
[17:57] <daftykins> i got really close but network chat wasn't working, then i spotted iptables blocking the daemon port on the host :)
[17:57] <ball> I think it makes sense the way you've described it.
[17:58] <daftykins> yeah, the server is the priority really, best for it to shutdown safely
[17:59]  * ball nods
[18:01] <daftykins> ooh i spy the domestic LAN doing some light HLS traffic according to his router, i detect kids entertainment time! :D
[18:05] <ball> What's HLS?
[18:05] <ball> Video streaming?
[18:05] <daftykins> HTTP live streaming, mmm
[18:05] <ball> Ah ok.
[18:05] <daftykins> fires off in little bursts of throughput as the player grabs another chunk of a few seconds here and there
[18:05] <daftykins> easy to spot on traffic graphs :D
[18:06]  * ball doesn't get traffic graphs, even at the office.
[18:06] <ball> That reminds me: I'm supposed to be building a router.
[18:06] <daftykins> oh o0
[18:07] <ball> It'll have to wait until I've had time to read up on npf and VLANs.
[18:07] <ball> I wonder how much the telco would charge to install and maintain a router for us.
[18:07] <daftykins> ah dealing with VLANs has totally made me rethink how i design things
[18:08] <daftykins> very cool to offer clients an entirely separately routed guest WiFi network that keeps guests away from the LAN their own office kit is on, say
[18:08] <ball> daftykins: That's a big motivation for me.  At present our WiFi is *just* for guests.
[18:08] <daftykins> hrmm probably too much! only a couple of hundred quid for a 24 port PoE+ switch
[18:08] <ball> We have the switch already.
[18:08] <ball> ...it's the router we need.
[18:09] <daftykins> mmm, derp... not sure how i switched the two, was probably thinking about lovely VLANs on a managed switch
[18:09] <daftykins> a nice pfSense appliance from netgate would be nice \o/
[18:10] <ball> Hmm... ok.
[18:14] <daftykins> depends on the tech in use on the incoming pipe, # users, whether remote access is desired, the usual
[18:17] <ball> Last time I looked it was about six concurrent users on an ADSL circuit.
[18:17] <ball> (not including guests)
[18:17] <daftykins> ah pretty trivial then
[18:18] <ball> Should be.
[18:18] <ball> Still a bit for me to learn though.
[18:18] <ball> brb, pressing a button...
[18:19]  * daftykins braces himself
[18:19] <daftykins> now i have the pfSense tuned into the UPS status :D
[18:23]  * ball grins
[18:26] <daftykins> if the office is in a biz sector that values security, pfSense would be worth it... if not, probably not so much
[18:27] <ball> We're a non-profit.
[18:28] <daftykins> hrmm probably overkill, they tend not to include WiFi so i to that with separate Ubiquiti APs
[18:28] <daftykins> so you end up with a 3 box solution minimum, 4 boxes if you adds an xDSL transceiver
[18:28] <ball> I don't want WiFi in the router anyway.
[18:28] <ball> We already have APs plugged into a PoE switch.
[18:29] <daftykins> funky, hopefully they're decent enough they can have SSIDs configured with VLANs associated to make a nice isolated guest network \o/
[18:30] <ball> They support it, I'd just have to figure out how to configure it.
[18:30] <ball> (to work with the router)
[18:30] <daftykins> the switch would need to be managed as well really
[18:30] <daftykins> that lets you do them all over a single network cable to the AP \o/
[18:30] <ball> the switch supports it too, I think.
[18:31] <ball> I should probably check the WX site for tornado warnings.
[18:33] <ball> Watches for tornado and flash flooding.  "Heavy rain".
[18:33] <daftykins> ooh err
[18:34] <ball> Looks like it's blowing over now but there's more behind it.
[18:44]  * daftykins pops LGR on - https://youtu.be/mpayqVGmKyo
[18:54] <ball> I'm watching Geoff Marshall on a Pendolino.
[20:37] <Myrtti> nice
[21:22] <daftykins> g'night all \o
[23:56] <ball> Goodnight daftykins!