=== popey6 is now known as popey [15:35] For a backup disk, is there a good reason to use ext4 or ext3 rather than ext2? [15:37] ball: The journals on 3/4 area bit more tolerant of not being properly unmounted [15:38] Thanks. [15:38] weekend \o/ [15:39] i've been configuring NUT the UPS management software today [15:39] daftykins: How's it working out? [15:40] pretty good! just invoked a test, all the VMs on the host were successfully shutdown, followed by the host itself [15:40] need to work out how to get a Synology NAS to pay attention too, got it as far as being able to query the master [15:40] It's good to get those in the right order. [15:41] daftykins: Can you set the exhaustion level at which shutdown occurs or are you doing it when AC fails? [15:42] oh yeah you get to define all the limit levels [15:42] and do you have Majel Barret's voice telling you about it? [15:42] penguin42++ [15:42] * daftykins powers the server back on via iDRAC [15:44] * penguin42 likes the DRACs - I tend to use them transatlantically [15:44] i'm glad this one has behaved after being factory reset, it was really causing trouble after the system arrived in Exeter [15:45] I went kayaking in the sea at Exeter. [15:45] Those were the days! [15:45] probably not with a dell server.... [15:46] maybe with all the parts removed [15:46] Of course! Where do you think Microsoft got the idea for their "underwater datacentres"? [15:46] using rack kits as paddles? [15:46] and most of the... no, what am i thinking, even an aluminium chassis wouldn't displace more than it weighed [15:48] * ball looks glum [15:49] I need a handful of 32 Gbyte microSHDC cards. [15:49] o0 [15:50] ...and they've doubled in price due to the "chip shortage". [15:51] Mostly unrelated: I need a faster computer. [15:51] this for an army of Pis or something o0 [15:51] ball: Well, I'd offer you my 16 core Ryzen if the damn thing hadn't died :-( [15:52] daftykins: One for a Pi 2B, one for a tablet, one for my daughter's GoPro [16:00] once my pal notices my messages he'll be able to power the Synology NAS back on, then i can investigate the correct config xD [16:02] pleased with that, there was a bit of hassle considering which device would make a good master... right now i'm using the Dell host OS (XCP-ng) as it [16:02] so i don't even bother with shutdown of the pfSense router right now [16:04] daftykins: can it do wake-on-ether? [16:07] can't reach it to find out xD [16:08] can you reach something else on the LAN? [16:10] i'm in no hurry, i don't know its' MAC though [16:43] bound to be in a log somewhere :-) [16:44] hehe [16:45] ah well, it's why we test, to find out the shortcomings! [17:26] What does it mean when the terminal cursor stops flashing? [17:27] yessss \o/ Synology now reading the UPS status [17:27] daftykins: from the physical VM host via upsnut? [17:29] yep, Synology being the NAS appliance on the LAN - it's a slave reading from the server host [17:30] * ball nods [17:31] I'm glad that's working. [17:31] kinda nuts 'cause the GUI web admin doesn't support it, so you have to hand-edit the config [17:31] Is the NAS part of the UPS load? [17:31] yep [17:31] I'm glad you got it working. [17:31] "ups.load: 24" :D [17:31] Oh, I just said that. :-) [17:32] what situation are you seeing the cursor thing in? [17:32] daftykins: Most recent case was during a dd job. [17:32] hrmm [17:35] only used to seeing a change when the terminal isn't the active window, really [17:35] assuming the input is correct - i'm quite fond of "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx bs=4M status=progress" for example [17:38] That's essentially what I did, though if pointed to an image. [17:38] ...and bs=16384 [17:48] assume you're prepping microSDs, i'd probably open another term and check "dmesg | tail" output in case the card is unhappy [17:51] I did look at dmesg output after the dd job was done. No major complaints and the card seems to work fine in the target system. [17:51] little bit weird [17:56] ah, so pleased with today's progress... been meaning to get around to that for ages, but i kept umm-ing and arr-ing about which device i wanted to be master [17:57] i got really close but network chat wasn't working, then i spotted iptables blocking the daemon port on the host :) [17:57] I think it makes sense the way you've described it. [17:58] yeah, the server is the priority really, best for it to shutdown safely [17:59] * ball nods [18:01] ooh i spy the domestic LAN doing some light HLS traffic according to his router, i detect kids entertainment time! :D [18:05] What's HLS? [18:05] Video streaming? [18:05] HTTP live streaming, mmm [18:05] Ah ok. [18:05] fires off in little bursts of throughput as the player grabs another chunk of a few seconds here and there [18:05] easy to spot on traffic graphs :D [18:06] * ball doesn't get traffic graphs, even at the office. [18:06] That reminds me: I'm supposed to be building a router. [18:06] oh o0 [18:07] It'll have to wait until I've had time to read up on npf and VLANs. [18:07] I wonder how much the telco would charge to install and maintain a router for us. [18:07] ah dealing with VLANs has totally made me rethink how i design things [18:08] very cool to offer clients an entirely separately routed guest WiFi network that keeps guests away from the LAN their own office kit is on, say [18:08] daftykins: That's a big motivation for me. At present our WiFi is *just* for guests. [18:08] hrmm probably too much! only a couple of hundred quid for a 24 port PoE+ switch [18:08] We have the switch already. [18:08] ...it's the router we need. [18:09] mmm, derp... not sure how i switched the two, was probably thinking about lovely VLANs on a managed switch [18:09] a nice pfSense appliance from netgate would be nice \o/ [18:10] Hmm... ok. [18:14] depends on the tech in use on the incoming pipe, # users, whether remote access is desired, the usual [18:17] Last time I looked it was about six concurrent users on an ADSL circuit. [18:17] (not including guests) [18:17] ah pretty trivial then [18:18] Should be. [18:18] Still a bit for me to learn though. [18:18] brb, pressing a button... [18:19] * daftykins braces himself [18:19] now i have the pfSense tuned into the UPS status :D [18:23] * ball grins [18:26] if the office is in a biz sector that values security, pfSense would be worth it... if not, probably not so much [18:27] We're a non-profit. [18:28] hrmm probably overkill, they tend not to include WiFi so i to that with separate Ubiquiti APs [18:28] so you end up with a 3 box solution minimum, 4 boxes if you adds an xDSL transceiver [18:28] I don't want WiFi in the router anyway. [18:28] We already have APs plugged into a PoE switch. [18:29] funky, hopefully they're decent enough they can have SSIDs configured with VLANs associated to make a nice isolated guest network \o/ [18:30] They support it, I'd just have to figure out how to configure it. [18:30] (to work with the router) [18:30] the switch would need to be managed as well really [18:30] that lets you do them all over a single network cable to the AP \o/ [18:30] the switch supports it too, I think. [18:31] I should probably check the WX site for tornado warnings. [18:33] Watches for tornado and flash flooding. "Heavy rain". [18:33] ooh err [18:34] Looks like it's blowing over now but there's more behind it. [18:44] * daftykins pops LGR on - https://youtu.be/mpayqVGmKyo [18:54] I'm watching Geoff Marshall on a Pendolino. [20:37] nice [21:22] g'night all \o [23:56] Goodnight daftykins!