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[01:28] <mybalzitch> so much butthurt.
[01:33] <sarnold> yeah; I can kinda understand, if I'd just spent a big pile of money on brand new hardware and it doesn't work out of the box it wouldn't be a good feeling
[01:34] <oerheks> too new hardware?
[01:37] <noarb-> is there a way to run VLC or something else on a headless machine, and stream *to* the machine over the network, in order to play video via HDMI? Are there tools with ubuntu core to make a VLC kiosk?
[01:39] <sarnold> oerheks: maybe, heh
[01:39] <sarnold> noarb-: wouldn't that hdmi be a head?
[01:42] <noarb-> Good catch... back to the drawing board. I was hoping to plug in a mini pc with ubuntu on it, only displaying videos played remotely, like a chromecast but from an ubuntu desktop
[01:42] <oerheks> DNLA? why not kodi ?
[01:42] <sarnold> yeah that should be pretty doable, plex and mediabuntu kinds of things have done that for years, but I don't know what's the best way to make it happen
[01:42] <oerheks> OSMC, or libre elec
[01:44] <oerheks> vlc is doable, setup with screen https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/create-linux-vlc-streaming-media-server-home/
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[02:33] <ccsleep> hello
[02:58] <rajnish> Hi Everyone
[02:59] <rajnish> I want to learn squashfs filesystem
[02:59] <rajnish> anyone please help
[02:59] <rajnish> which is best guide
[02:59] <fling> Is desktop-20.04 cd copying network config during install?
[03:00] <fling> The network manager one?
[03:00] <rajnish> Hi Fling,
[03:00] <rajnish> do you know about squshfs filesystem
[03:01] <sarnold> rajnish: do you want to learn how to use mksquashfs? or do you want to learn about the data format? or do you want to work on the kernel driver? you'll probably have to be more specific
[03:01] <fling> rajnish: yes
[03:16] <fling> how to prevent the installer from downloading anything?
[03:16] <fling> like 5.8 kernel
[03:18] <fling> I guess I will rename resolv.conf
[03:22] <fling> no, it still fetches packages ;<
[03:23] <fling> iptables time
[03:23] <Bashing-om> fling: If the 5.4 kernel is wanted - install the 20.04/.01 releases.
[03:24] <fling> Bashing-om: this is what I'm installing with
[03:24] <fling> but the cd is downloading 5.8
[03:24] <fling> -A OUTPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 53 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable
[03:24] <fling> -A OUTPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 53 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable
[03:24] <fling> I hope this helps ^
[03:25] <Bashing-om> fling: sysop@2004x-c:~$ uname -r >> 5.4.0-77-generic. The 1st releases of focal will use the 5.4 kernel.
[03:25] <fling> 5.4.0-42-generic here
[03:25] <fling> 20.4.1
[03:26] <Bashing-om> fling: Hokay - then you have enabled HWE - that can be reverted.
[03:26] <Bashing-om> !hwe | fling
[03:26] <ubottu> fling: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[03:27] <fling> Bashing-om: not enabled anything, restarting the install in a loop
[03:29] <Bashing-om> fling: Sorry - does not compute then to me - ' dpkg -l |grep linux- ' in the .1 install should not reflect upstream kernel.
[03:30] <fling> Bashing-om: unless you have internets
[03:30] <fling> and have to have a connection because I'm using the install over vnc
[03:30] <fling> I wanted to run in in qemu first but kvm is not available for some reason
[03:30] <fling> even though module loads
[03:31] <fling> Bashing-om: looks like iptables trick worked and it did not download anything this time yay
[03:31] <fling> how do I check what linux version and zfsutils I have in the chroot?
[03:32] <fling> ok I only have vmlinuz-5.4.0-42-generic in /boot
[03:32] <fling> zfs is 0.8.3
[03:32] <fling> Bashing-om: thanks ;>
[03:34] <fling> why is this happening >>  Could not access KVM kernel module: No such file or directory
[03:34] <fling> modprobe works, lsmod shows kvm
[03:49] <fling> probably because it is vmware right? :D
[04:03] <fling> where to report the installing downloading updates with the checkmark disabled?
[04:03] <fling> the installer ^
[04:19] <alkisg> fling: are you sure they're software updates and not e.g. installer updates, which would be expected?
[04:20] <fling> alkisg: got rid of them with dropping packets to port 53 with iptables
[04:20] <fling> alkisg: so yes installer downloaded them from internets somehow
[04:20] <alkisg> I'm not doubting that
[04:20] <alkisg> I'm saying that if you uncheck "download software updates", this won't include "installer updates"
[04:21] <alkisg> Maybe some packages are more significant and are not included in that check mark
[04:21] <alkisg> To ensure a proper installation
[04:21] <alkisg> In any case, you could file a bug under the ubiquity installer package
[04:22] <fling> have a link?
[04:22] <alkisg> I didn't read all the conversation, that's the desktop iso, not the server iso, right? So, it's this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity
[04:23] <fling> yes thanks
[04:23] <alkisg> E.g. maybe you're re-reporting this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1634246
[04:23] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1634246 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "kernel updating despite unchecked 'download and install' choice" [High, Incomplete]
[04:24] <alkisg> Read comment #6 there
[04:28] <fling> <3
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[13:08] <ice9> what could be the problem here? https://bpa.st/EC7A
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> ice9: can you elaborate a bit more what issue you are encountering?
[13:10] <ice9> lotuspsychje, sometimes when the screen turns off due to inactivity, the whole laptop freeze even I cannot switch to another VT and I have to hard reset
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> ice9: so your laptop freezes after a hibernate or after trying to come back?
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[13:15] <ice9> lotuspsychje, not hibernation, it just freeze while the session is locked and screen is off but the laptop is awake; it happens frequently but I cannot reproduce intentionally
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> ice9: wich ubuntu version are you on please
[13:17] <ice9> lotuspsychje, 21.04
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[13:17] <ubottu> linux-image-generic (5.11.0.22.23, hirsute): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Built by linux-meta. Size 3 kB / 18 kB. (Only available for amd64, armhf, arm64, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x.)
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> you have previous kernels to test ice9 ?
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[13:19] <ice9> lotuspsychje, unfortunately not, i removed them after the upgrade
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> ice9: did you recall if you had this same issue on previous kernels?
[13:21] <ice9> lotuspsychje, i think it was happening too but tbh not sure
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> ice9: graphics driver installed correctly too? sudo lshw -C video
[13:23] <ice9> lotuspsychje, https://bpa.st/3MFA
[13:23] <ice9> lotuspsychje, i'm using nvidia prop driver and intel is the primary gpu
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> ice9: nvidia-smi will show you version, worth a test to rule out its graphics driver related is a switch of driver version
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> ill have to afk for a while, maybe your full journal logs share with channel could help volunteers trace your freezes ice9
[13:26] <ice9> lotuspsychje, https://bpa.st/VF7A  thank you for your time
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> ok, check also nvidia-settings to see if its powersaving mode or performance mode ice9
[13:27] <ice9> lotuspsychje, it's Nvidia-ondemand
[13:33] <ice9> I'm getting many messages in dmesg "Lockdown: systemd-logind: hibernation is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7"; what is that?
[13:41] <ogra> ice9, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hirsute/man7/kernel_lockdown.7.html
[13:42] <ice9> so why systemd-logind is trying to access the kernel image?
[13:45] <BluesKaj> Hi all
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[13:47] <knaccc> hey all - I was wondering if there was a way to easily "pre-download" a package that I'm about to install with apt-get. The motivation is that i need to shut down mariadb and then upgrade it, but I want to minimise downtime and now wait for the download to happen when I issue the apt install command
[13:48] <knaccc> s/now wait/not wait
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[13:49] <mjt> knaccc: ... install --download-only
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[13:49] <mjt> see man apt-get
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[13:50] <ogra> ice9, my guess would be that you enabled hibernate somehow (which is disabled by default in ubuntu because it is known to cause issues) and your power settings are set up in a way that the system tries to hibernate after a certain amount of time
[13:50] <jailbreak> ice9, you're running Arch AND *NOT* ubuntu?
[13:51] <ice9> ogra, this is a fresh installation and i haven't tried to enable hibernation
[13:51] <ice9> jailbreak, no, it's ubuntu
[13:51] <ice9> Ubuntu 21.04 \n \l
[13:51] <jailbreak> ice9, seems not: ice9> what does this mean? followed by errors...
[13:52] <ice9> jailbreak, yeah i was just trying to get an idea what does this error means from other linux guys too; i will not ask specific ubuntu questions there
[13:52] <jailbreak> try ##linux
[13:53] <knaccc> mjt that's awesome, thank you so much!
[13:58] <ogra> ice9, well, either way, you should be able to turn off "shutdown/suspend automatically" in the power settings, i'd assume that works around the issue ... long term you should file a bug against the linux package if you are really sure you did not add any hibernation stuff after install
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[14:24] <ice9> jailbreak, so can you help with issue I asked about?
[14:55] <francis> ice9: you can ignore that lockdown message, you're problems are a lot deeper
[14:55] <francis> ice9: have you tried checking your filesystems?
[14:55] <francis> your*
[14:56] <ice9> francis, yes filesystem and memtest went well without any errors
[14:59] <francis> ice9: what kind of hard drive have you got, old-style spinning disk, ssd, or something else?
[15:02] <DrJ> francis: As a member of the uncalled for geek police, you need to rephrase your question
[15:04] <ice9> francis, ssd
[15:04] <ice9> nvme
[15:04] <francis> DrJ: thanks, but I'll pass
[15:05] <DrJ> :)
[15:05] <francis> ice9: the most likely reason you're getting so many rcu-stalls in dmesg is either (a) fs corruption or (b) dying hardware
[15:06] <francis> memtest for longer than less than 24h would be recommended as well as finding a tool you can use to test out your ssd so you can rule out iher dying memory/ssd
[15:06] <ice9> francis, i did memtest86 test over night and there was no errors
[15:08] <francis> ice9: forget the memtest and what run-time period is best, you need a tool to carefully scan your ssd for errors
[15:09] <ice9> francis, like what?
[15:09] <francis> alas the only tool I can think of off the top of my head is non-free and windows only :(
[15:09] <francis> hopefully someone else might have a suggestion. failing that, I'd take your laptop to a shop because it smeels very much like something inside it is on the way out
[15:11] <ice9> francis, this is a bran new laptop, 2 weeks old and i can't make a warranty claim because the vendor doesn't support linux
[15:11] <ice9> brand*
[15:15] <francis> ice9: being brand new might change things slightly. can you paste the entire contents of dmesg at https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ please?
[15:16] <ice9> francis, dmesg when those errors were showing up, or a fresh dmesg output?
[15:17] <Rayston3> can someone point me at a guide or other tutorial on how to copy a harddrive as an image that I can then boot up as a VM?
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[15:18] <francis> ice9: entire dmesg please. I'm wondering if your laptop is so new (or rather the hardware inside it) that the current ubuntu kernel doesn't support something in it, or there's a missing driver quirk etc.
[15:20] <ice9> francis, this is when the stall error showed up: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/VGqDNFkWGz/   and this is a fresh dmesg output without the errors: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/bYXRhTydFn/
[15:22] <francis> ice9: ta, I'll take a proper look in a moment. in the mean time, are you willing to try out a couple of different kernels to see if one of the hwe/hwe-edge kernels treats you and/or your laptop better? :)
[15:22] <ice9> francis, sure, i will try that
[15:23] <francis> ice9: okie, first to try is: apt-get install linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04
[15:24] <ice9> francis, oh it's already installed
[15:25] <francis> aha
[15:25] <francis> are you running that kernel right now?
[15:27] <ice9> francis, i had a fresh installation of ubuntu and uname -r shows 5.11.0-22-generic however the hwe package is installed
[15:29] <ice9> linux-image-5.11.0-18-generic/hirsute-updates,hirsute-security,now 5.11.0-18.19 amd64 [installed,automatic]
[15:29] <ice9> linux-image-5.11.0-22-generic/hirsute-updates,hirsute-security,now 5.11.0-22.23 amd64 [installed,automatic]
[15:29] <ice9> linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04/hirsute-updates,hirsute-security,now 5.11.0.22.23 amd64 [installed]
[15:29] <ice9> linux-image-generic/hirsute-updates,hirsute-security,now 5.11.0.22.23 amd64 [installed]
[15:36] <francis> ice9: sorry, think I might've let out a typo. what's the last line of "apt-cache search linux-image-generic-hwe |grep -v dummy"
[15:40] <theseb> help!  My Django server freezes after just a few hours....top shows uwsgi taking around 100% of cpu....Looking at syslog output is revealing....any ideas? how track down where cpu going?
[15:42] <ice9> francis, inux-image-generic-hwe-20.04-edge - Generic Linux kernel image
[15:42] <francis> ice9: btw, has anyone else asked you to try running with the nvidia drivers disabled yet? your dmesg looks pretty normal expect for a few firmware bug warnings and a load of acpi-related errors, which is pretty usual for a newish laptop under linux
[15:43] <francis> ice9: thought so. that'd be the next kernel to try then
[15:46] <ice9> francis, 5.11.0-22-generic isn't the hwe kernel right?
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[16:29] <theseb> I have a web app where the cpu usage for the uwsgi daemon shots up to 100% every hour or so.  I don't see in any logs what the hell is causing this?  Any ideas how to drill down into why this one specific uwsgi proces does this when the others are fine?
[16:36] <ice9> theseb, is it django or flask?
[16:36] <easyme> Hello
[16:37] <theseb> ice9: django....i'm turing off some uwsgi switches....i wonder if any of this master and threads crap is the issue
[16:40] <easyme> Is there any problem if i use ubuntu in virtualbox?
[16:40] <ice9> theseb, i think #python might be a better place for help
[16:41] <theseb> ice9: yea..thanks for trying
[16:43] <rfm> !details | easyme
[16:43] <ubottu> easyme: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.
[16:45] <easyme> Using ubuntu on virtualbox.
[16:56] <francis> ice9: sorry, flakey internet here. when you turn on your laptop do you get a grub menu or does it boot straight up? been far too long since I've used stock ubuntu /etc/default/grub
[16:59] <ice9> francis, it boot straight but i can trigger it with escape key, i think there is no option for the hwe kernel, also:
[16:59] <ice9> # hwe-support-status --verbose
[16:59] <ice9> Only LTS releases have Hardware Enablement stacks
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[17:04] <llorllale> Hello. Using Ubuntu 20.04: when playing games on the nvidia profile and with bluetooth devices connected, the laptop will suddenly shutdown (crash?). I don't know how to troubleshoot this... any tips or pointers would be appreciated.
[17:11] <ice9> francis, seems its not possible to use hwe kernel with non-lts; also my current kernel i think is more recent than the hwe one
[17:19] <francis> ice9: seems you're right. I thought -hwe-edge was an option but from what I've read elsewhere, apparently not.
[17:20] <francis> ice9: there're other newer kernels you could try installing manually but it's a bit cumbersome
[17:20] <francis> ice9: if you read through https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2021/06/install-nvidia-driver-switch-between-intel-nvidia-ubuntu/, could you try and see if taking the non-free nvidia drivers out of the mix helps at all?
[17:23] <ice9> francis, i'm not using the free driver, but the nvidia's prop driver and i'm using Intel as the primary GPU; whenever I need nvidia, i use prime offload to launch an app with it
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[17:29] <francis> ice9: yes but the proprietary nvidia.ko module is still getting loaded regardless of whether or not the nvidia gpu is being used
[17:29] <francis> that driver has caused all sorts of issues over the years. it might well be innocent here, but ruling it out is a good idea. you'll likely be asked to if you have to take this issue up on an upstream bug tracker
[17:55] <ice9> francis, thanks a lot for your help so far, but i think these services wouldn't fail because of nvidia drvier right? https://bpa.st/HARQ
[17:57] <francis> ice9: you're welcome. it's actually possible that they could fail because of a big in the nvidia driver spinning say and starving other processes of resources
[17:57] <ogra> francis, hew-edge is usually an option there just isn't a new one atm
[17:57] <francis> er, bug in*
[17:57] <ogra> (should be back i the next two weeks i was told)
[17:58] <francis> ogra: aah, thanks you!
[18:11] <llorllale1> I wonder if my crashes have something to do with overheating due to the laptop's lid being closed...
[18:13] <llorllale1> ccccccktngibjcbkhhnvrbkdtdgcbbivbhhudlrbngud
[18:13] <llorllale1> sorry
[18:14] <llorllale1> Anyway - I have an asus zenbook. turns out it has exhaust/intake vents at the bottom. The laptop is designed such that when the lid is opened the main board is raised slightly, allowing better intake/exhaust I guess. Hmm
[18:17]  * francis wonders if ice9 and llorllale1 should compare zenbook model/version numbers
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[18:18] <llorllale> Mine is UX533FD-DH74. What is ice9's issue?
[18:20] <ice9> llorllale, UX435 (the one with dual screenpad), some services crash after boot, and the whole system freeze when it's left without activity and the screen is off
[18:21] <ice9> sorry i mean dual screens, the main one and the screenpad
[18:21] <francis> was worth a shot! :)
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[18:24] <francis> llorllale: if you run "journalctl --list-boots" as root/with sudo, you get a list of boot ids. if you cycle through those with e.g. "journalctl --boot $id" (where $id = -1, -2 etc), do you see any errors near the end?
[18:28] <llorllale> ice9: mine also freezes semi-frequently when left unattended for X amount of time and the screen is off
[18:29] <ice9> llorllale, are you using wayland or X?
[18:30] <llorllale> francis: `journalctl --list-boots` doesn't show errors
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[18:31] <francis> llorllale: yep, "journalctl --list-boots" is where you get the boot ids
[18:31] <llorllale> ice9: I'm using X
[18:31] <francis> what about "journalctl --boot -1", if you page to the end is there anything error-like?
[18:31] <llorllale> francis: oh, ok... checking
[18:33] <llorllale> francis: I see `ACPI BIOS Error (bug): Failure creating named object [\_SB.PCI0.XHC.RHUB.HS01._UPC], AE_ALREADY_EXISTS (20190816/dswload2-326)`
[18:33] <llorllale> cursory searches on google seem to indicate it's not a big deal?
[18:34] <francis> yeah they're most likely not a big deal in your case, a lot of that noise will be present on a good deal of recentish laptops
[18:34] <llorllale> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xBx7F2YFmZ/
[18:34] <llorllale> ok
[18:35] <francis> llorllale: could you pastebin the output from "journalctl --boot -1 |tail -n200" please
[18:35] <francis> you might wanna redirect with > out.txt" or something
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[18:35] <francis> hmm, typing getting worser and worser..
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[18:38] <llorllale> francis: here you go: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BVJDW3pftN/
[18:41] <francis> llorllale: nothing stands out there unfortunately
[18:41] <francis> might be interesting to see if you're also experiencing rcu stalls like ice9
[18:42] <francis> llorllale: are you confident editing /etc/default/grub, etc?
[18:42] <llorllale> cat /etc/default/grub
[18:42] <llorllale> :D
[18:42] <llorllale> haha
[18:42] <llorllale> oops
[18:43] <llorllale> one sec
[18:43] <llorllale> I think I am.
[18:43] <llorllale> I tried fiddling with nomodeset a few days ago.
[18:43] <llorllale> What do you want to try?
[18:43] <francis> :)
[18:44] <francis> adding "lovlevel=8" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub, then running update-grub and rebooting
[18:45] <francis> that essentialls enables some noisier kernel messages in dmesg which might help explain what's going on before the crash/hang
[18:45] <ice9> llorllale, are you using wayland or xrog?
[18:45] <llorllale> ice9: x.org
[18:45] <llorllale> francis: where is lovlevel documented?
[18:45] <francis> one mo
[18:46] <francis> it's at https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt minimally probably in the user docs/server guide too
[18:46] <francis> argh
[18:46] <francis> I meant to say "loglevel". sorry for the typos, cold lingering..
[18:46] <llorllale> ah
[18:48] <llorllale> rebooting...
[18:50] <llorllale> francis: back
[18:52] <francis> llorllale: roight, how reliably are the crashes, every boot or less frequent?
[18:52] <llorllale> francis: are you sure 8 is a valid value for loglevel ?
[18:53] <francis> yup
[18:53] <francis> 8 enables everything basically
[18:53] <llorllale> highest value is 7 as per the link from kernel.org you posted
[18:53] <llorllale> anyway
[18:53] <llorllale> Rebooting is always a gamble.
[18:53] <francis> seem to remember the 8 may be historical and 7 is the highest listed or something, but either way =7 or =8 will give you the most verbose dmesg output
[18:54] <llorllale> I'd say there's a >50% chance of it freezing at the splash screen (or black screen) during boot
[18:54] <llorllale> every time
[18:55] <llorllale> There are always initramfs errors when it finally manages to boot successfully
[18:55] <llorllale> Something about "recovering journal"
[18:55] <francis> yeah I get the same initramfs stuff on this mint install
[18:56] <francis> what I'd do next is before it crashes, run "journalctl -k > kernel.txt" which will output only the kernel messages for the current boot
[18:57] <llorllale> Done. Should I pastebin?
[18:57] <francis> yes please
[18:58] <francis> it might not show anything and you might need to hang tight for the laptop to crash and then cross your fingers something survives the reset
[19:00] <llorllale> francis: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RgFTFGtcxH/
[19:00] <llorllale> (nice... didn't know pastebinit was a thing)
[19:03] <francis> llorllale: so you've got some cpu throttling there at the end but that's just a single event. if you see that a *lot* while your system's running it could be heat-related like you mentioned earlier
[19:04] <llorllale> Yep - I noticed that.
[19:04] <TJ-> loglevel=8 is invalid; max value is =7 (debug)
[19:06] <TJ-> llorllale: the system is booted using an older mainline kernel build? "vmlinuz-5.4.72-050472-generic"
[19:06] <llorllale> TJ-: what should it be?
[19:07] <francis> how is =8 invalid? kernel.org's own doc's say and I quote: "Information is printed at KERN_DEBUG so loglevel=8 may also need to be specified.
[19:08] <francis> regardless..
[19:09] <TJ-> francis: 0-7 see https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.html
[19:09] <TJ-> "7 (KERN_DEBUG)          debug-level messages"
[19:10] <TJ-> I can tell from the pastebin that it is INFO level - DEBUG level messages I'd expect to see aren't there
[19:11] <llorllale> switched to 7, brb
[19:13] <llorllale> francis: what's the command I should be running?
[19:14] <llorllale> nevermind - got it
[19:15] <llorllale> I think I see more messages: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/g9bnbmGpww/
[19:17] <francis> TJ-: yes, I know. I said above I may have been wrong about =8 and it being historical. the point was it *works*
[19:17] <francis> llorllale: looking
[19:18] <francis> llorllale: I think unfortunately you're going to have to do the wait-for-laptop-to-crash dance and then cycle through previous boot(s) with eg "journalctl -k --boot -1"
[19:20] <TJ-> I noticed there's a bug in the firmware's SSDT for xh_whld4 and that may be related to this recent XHCI hub dis/re-connect
[19:21] <francis> llorllale: while you're waiting you could do something like: journalctl -k -f |grep 'cpu clock throttled'
[19:21] <francis> and see if you end up getting more of those cpu throttled warnings
[19:23] <llorllale> ok
[19:25] <llorllale> So to be clear, I've noticed two distinct cases of crashes/unexpected shutdowns: 1) w/intel profile and laptop is asleep, 2) w/intel profile and I am playing a game with bluetooth peripherals. This also means I have the laptop with the lid closed.
[19:26] <llorllale> Dual external monitors: 1 with usb-c, the other with the hdmi port
[19:26] <llorllale> bluetooth headset + keyboard
[19:27] <francis> have you another machine/device you could use to ssh into the laptop when the brown stuff hits the fan
[19:27] <francis> just as a means to check if it's a hard crash and completely dead or it's just the graphics subsystem that's having a bad day, etc
[19:31] <llorllale> francis: yes.
[19:33] <francis> llorllale: I'd give that a go then. if the laptop isn't locking up hard and you can still ssh into it from another machine, it might make pinpointing where/why the crash is happening a lot easier
[19:33] <llorllale> will try... I'm not using fixed IPs
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[20:08] <denza242> does anyone else get random hangs + forced logout sometimes?
[20:08] <denza242> basically I'll be doing something or the other, and suddenly my desktop hangs
[20:09] <denza242> then either the windows (minus the decorations) will go black, and then sooner or later the whole screen goes black, then I'm dropped back into the login screen and my session has been closed
[20:09] <denza242> I checked the logs (via ksystemlog) and there's some amdgpu errors
[20:13] <TJ-> denza242: there has been some churn causing regressions as well as new bugs in amdgpu over the last year or os
[20:26] <denza242> TJ-: hmm
[20:27] <denza242> that is unfortunate
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[21:03] <forteller> Hi. I messed up my Ubuntu 21.04 box, and I hope you can help. I was stupid and installed Gnome 40 from the unofficial PPA from shemgp. I installed gnome-session first, and thought I could just change to the Ubuntu session and purge the PPA if anything went south. But after installation I did a reboot and my PC would not boot up. It just gave me a
[21:03] <forteller> weird gray screen with a sad computer on it. I've now booted up the same machine from a live USB and have access to the SSD where Ubuntu is installed and I've taken a backup to an external drive. My question is: Can I somehow purge the PPA and all the changes it did on my install on the SSD from the Live USB? Or will I have to reinstall Ubuntu?
[21:03] <forteller> Thank you so much for your help!
[21:09] <Mekaneck> forteller: short pain, reinstall
[21:12] <forteller> @Mekaneck I see. Though the pain there is not so short either, since I'll have to reinstall software and games, and my internet is not super. Oh well, thank you!
[21:12] <mybalzitch> eh
[21:13] <mybalzitch> chroot, edit the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ file, apt update, apt remove gnome*, reboot
[21:14] <mybalzitch> forteller: ^
[21:15] <forteller> mybalzitch: Won't the apt command only work on the system I'm currently running on the live usb, not on the installed system om the SSD?
[21:15] <mybalzitch> forteller: that's why you chroot into your broken install
[21:16] <mybalzitch> chroot /path/where/ubuntu/install/is/moutned /bin/bash
[21:16] <forteller> ah! cool. I'll give that a try. Thank you!
[21:30] <forteller> mybalzitch: When you say "edit the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ file", do you just mean delete the PPA's .list file within the sources.list.d directory?
[21:32] <mybalzitch> yes
[21:37] <forteller> I'm getting a lot of error messages when running apt update. Failed to fetch… etc. Is this a problem?
[21:40] <RougeR> heya, im struggling with ethernet in ubuntu
[21:41] <RougeR> for some reason i cannot see any ethernet adapters since reboot
[21:42] <forteller> mybalzitch: I'm getting a lot of error messages when running apt update. Failed to fetch… etc. Is this a problem? As long as I remove gnome, shouldn't I be in the clear? Or do I have to reinstall it before rebooting since standard Ubuntu session builds on gnome?
[21:43] <oerheks> reversing a ppa, use ppa-purge .. but such drastic change as gnome4 ppa, reinstall
[21:43] <devslash> I've got a small server thats 1.33ghz atom x 4, 2gb ram running ubuntu 14.04. that i want to mess aroundwith. do you guys updating to a later version of ubuntu ?
[21:44] <mybalzitch> forteller: https://superuser.com/questions/111152/whats-the-proper-way-to-prepare-chroot-to-recover-a-broken-linux-installation scroll down, there's a bit about copying over your /etc/resolv.conf, you should do this outside the jail so your network will work. forgot about that part sorry
[21:44] <oerheks> don't bother about your data, if you had no backup already, it is not important
[21:51] <devslash> i know that thats underpowered
[21:51] <devslash> also, because its atom, is there a separate iso that id need to use ?
[21:52] <oerheks> 14.04 .. one could use the old-versions repository, see the EOL upgrade factoid
[21:52] <oerheks> !eolupgrade
[21:52] <ubottu> End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[21:53] <devslash> im sorry but I dont understand what you mean
[21:53] <devslash> I am asking if I upgrade which version should I upgrade to ?
[21:53] <oerheks> see that url, you will need to change repos to > deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ CODENAME main restricted universe multiverse
[21:54] <devslash> which version
[21:54] <oerheks> then you can do upgrade to 16.04, EOL, and 18.04.. i would reinstall
[21:54] <devslash> i want to do a fresh install
[21:54] <devslash> i dont have anything on there that I care about
[21:54] <oerheks> oke, use a LTS version, 20.04, or 18.04
[21:55] <devslash> just wondering. did 21.04 up the requirementas
[21:55] <devslash> requirements
[21:55] <devslash> Im installing desktop ubuntu not server
[21:55] <oerheks> 21.04 gives wayland standard, but xorg is still installed and available from login
[21:55] <devslash> I see ok
[21:56] <lumo_e> Hello
[21:56] <BrythonLexi> Good evening!  Would anyone happen to know how to get dual GPU fans reporting on Ubuntu?  I have an NVIDIA GTX1650 SUPER, and my sensors only pick up one of the fans.  The undetected fan runs even while idle, and I would like to get the sensors to detect it.
[21:56] <oerheks> and 64 bit upgraded to 4 gb minimum
[21:56] <oerheks> that might be a bottleneck, not nessasdarily for a server ofcourse
[21:56] <lumo_e> I'm on Ubuntu 21.10. I mainly use gnome/wayland. Unfortunately I have an online exam in a few days, and I need screensharing to work
[21:57] <lumo_e> the problem is, gnome/xorg (both ubuntu flavored and vanilla) seems to have troubles
[21:57] <lumo_e> keyboard doesn't work
[21:57] <devslash> oerheks, i have no idea what i wanna do with this thing
[21:57] <lumo_e> initially not even touchpad worked, but after installing every input drivers I could it works now
[21:57] <lumo_e> but the keyboard doesn't even light on, like it's disabled
[21:58] <lumo_e> it used to work after the upgrade from 20.04 to 20.10
[21:58] <lumo_e> I am a bit amiss because I don't understand where to start from to debug this
[21:58] <lumo_e> any pointers?
[21:59] <lumo_e> my laptop is a lenovo l390 yoga
[22:00] <devslash> thanks btw
[22:04] <oerheks> lumo_e, when i search yoga l390, i end up with this post https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Other-Linux-Discussions/Running-Linux-on-L390-Yoga/m-p/4645666
[22:05] <oerheks> https://github.com/boltgolt/howdy and packages uptodate to Hirsuite 21.04 https://launchpad.net/~boltgolt/+archive/ubuntu/howdy
[22:05] <oerheks> seems promissing
[22:06] <lumo_e> mmh not really
[22:06] <lumo_e> I think that's just for authentication (cool though, I didn't know it existed)
[22:06] <lumo_e> I have been using this laptop for almost two years, initally only on xorg, and I never had this kind of problem
[22:06] <oerheks> even with the touchscreen/stylus?
[22:07] <lumo_e> yes, on wayland the stylus works pretty well
[22:07] <lumo_e> the touch screen as well, with the caveat of ui toolkits messing up
[22:11] <forteller> mybalzitch: I copied over the resolv.conf, and tried to do a ppa-purge, since I thought that might be cleaner than remove gnome*? But I just get this error message. Any ideas? # sudo ppa-purge ppa:shemgp/gnome-40
[22:11] <forteller> Updating packages lists
[22:11] <forteller> Warning:  apt-get update failed for some reason
[22:11] <mybalzitch> that error isn't overly helpful
[22:11] <mybalzitch> what if you run apt-get update by hand
[22:11] <forteller> I know… :)
[22:13] <forteller> mybalzitch: Lots of stuff happens, and then at the end: 0% [Working]gpgv: Signature made fr. 25. juni 2021 kl. 05.05 +0200 CEST
[22:13] <forteller> gpgv:                using RSA key 63E7F399F8A476514BA06E1D5A120BFCE2F028D4
[22:13] <forteller> gpgv: Good signature from "Launchpad PPA for shemgp"
[22:13] <forteller> sh: 1: cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied
[22:13] <forteller> sh: 1: cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied
[22:13] <forteller> Reading package lists... Done
[22:13] <mybalzitch> ahh, pastebin
[22:13] <mybalzitch> well, some kinda paste service
[22:13] <mybalzitch> forteller: do the extra mount steps in that superuser post, or just reinstall at this point, lol :(
[22:14] <forteller> Ok, I was hoping I could drop those steps. My bad. I'll try that first
[22:15] <forteller> Sorry about forgetting to use a paste service. I don't do this much
[22:20] <forteller> Yeah, I just get an error message again on the first part of that mount thing: mount: /dev/nvme0n1: can't find in /etc/fstab. So I guess I'll just reinstall… :(  Thanks so much for trying to help me, mybalzitch
[22:21] <mybalzitch> :(
[22:23] <forteller> No, wait, I typed something wrong. Now it says "mount: /mnt: /dev/nvme0n1p2 already mounted on /media/ubuntu/fcb6bfed-1a33-450a-b843-017292ed7174." I already knew that, though. Let's see if the next steps in the mount process does anything new
[22:24] <forteller> Uhmmm…? sudo mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc
[22:24] <forteller> mount: /mnt/proc: mount point does not exist.
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[22:29] <forteller> Ah, I had to umount it first. I seem to maybe be going somewhere now…
[22:37] <forteller> PPA purged successfully! Though I'm afraid the reason the PC wouldn't boot was because the installation messed with the UEFI, for some reason, and I'm not sure ppa-purge fixed that. But I guess I'll just have to reboot and see. Thanks again mybalziltch!
[22:38] <forteller> ^ mybalzitch :)
[22:43] <mybalzitch> :D
[22:52] <forteller> mybalzitch: It worked! I'm back on my system. Yes! Thank you so much! :D
[22:52] <mybalzitch> oh sheeeeeeit.
[22:52] <mybalzitch> well that's wonderful news
[22:52] <mybalzitch> hooray!
[22:53] <forteller> ahh yiiiiz! :D
[22:53] <forteller> You're my hero for today!
[22:53] <mybalzitch> how about a trade, you finish putting the mulch in my garden.
[22:55] <forteller> hahaha! If you saw the state of the plants in my garden, I don't think you'd ask :P
[23:17] <alzgh> I'm on focal. What is the equivalent of xrandr on Ubuntu? I only found lxrandr and libxrandr2
[23:19] <Mekaneck> arandr maybe?
[23:19] <oerheks> alzgh, did you not try 'xrandr' on your ubuntu?
[23:19] <oerheks> weird
[23:20] <alzgh> just ran the command and it is installed (xrandr)
[23:20] <alzgh> funny thing is `apt show xrandr` only gives the two above
[23:20] <alzgh> libxrandr2 and lxrandr
[23:20] <oerheks> !find xrandr
[23:20] <ubottu> Found: gir1.2-freedesktop, libxrandr-dev, libxrandr2, librust-x11-dev, lxrandr, lxrandr-dbg
[23:20] <alzgh> where is xrandr on my system installed from if not from ubuntu repo?
[23:21] <oerheks>  libxrandr2
[23:22] <alzgh> yeah, right oerheks
[23:22] <alzgh> it's installed by default
[23:22] <alzgh> I'm wondering why the different naming tho?
[23:22] <alzgh> I'm trying out i3
[23:23] <alzgh> excited :D
[23:27] <Jordan> Hey all, can anyone help me with a networking issue and netplan? Getting an error when adding an IP with a /30 prefix
[23:27] <Jordan> Do you want to ping broadcast? Then -b. If not, check your local firewall rules.
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[23:59] <supremekai> Hey guys, I installed ubuntu 20.04 and I have my USER. I do not have much experience with linux, but I'm trying to make a change. However, other systems I installed I would always login with root. However, in this account if I try to use the root account in Ubuntu 20.04 doing "su root" it says the password is not correct. Any default pass for root of Ubuntu 20.04?