[19:35] <DocMors> the brightness applet isn't 
[19:36] <DocMors> working on my 18.04.5 mate, any suggestions?
[19:42] <alkisg> Sometimes this is a kernel issue, not an applet issue. If brightness keys were never working in your ...laptop? I would then try with a live 20.04.2 CD to see if the newer kernel can handle it
[19:44] <DocMors> alkisg, found a little app that works  charm. find it here https://learnubuntumate.weebly.com/brightness-controller.html
[19:45] <DocMors> the rgb part is another nice feature
[20:05] <Mekaneck> DocMors: Ubuntu Mate 18.04 is EOL since end of April
[20:05] <Mekaneck> time to upgrade
[20:07] <sixwheeledbeast> er 2023 it's an LTS
[20:08] <sixwheeledbeast> !eol
[20:08] <Mekaneck> sixwheeledbeast: again, only main Ubuntu LTS is supported for 5 years, all other flavours with LTS 3 years
[20:10] <Mekaneck> Thus support for Ubuntu MATE, Xubuntu, Kubuntu etc. 18.04 has ended
[20:11] <sixwheeledbeast> thought this was #ubuntu sorry
[20:12] <Mekaneck> no problem
[20:15] <DocMors> it still say VERSION="18.04.5 LTS (Bionic Beaver)" in /etc/os-release
[20:17] <Mekaneck> still, desktopwise, it's not supported anymore
[20:18] <Mekaneck> switch to a supported version, 20.04 LTS or 21.04 (only supported for 7 more months)
[20:23] <DocMors> gonna sit out till 22.04
[20:23] <DocMors> this keyboard drives me nuts, it's missing full words
[20:25] <sixwheeledbeast> why?
[20:33] <Mekaneck> why wait until 22.04? Makes no sense to me
[20:34] <Mekaneck> if you want to keep using Ubuntu MATE 18.04 don't expect to get support for it
[21:14] <DocMors> Mekaneck, I'll life
[21:15] <DocMors> hmm even live