| pjz | is there a guide/blog/post on how to use backportpackage? I want to backport nim 1.4.x to LTS | 00:11 |
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| sarnold | pjz: I used it once to build something and I think it really was as easy as this example in the manpage: backportpackage -u ppa:user/ppa znc | 00:13 |
| sarnold | do you have a ppa created already? | 00:14 |
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| pjz | I do not. I don't really want a ppa, I just want to backport the package for personal use | 00:21 |
| pjz | oh, hm, I rememeberd old debian packaging foo and dpkg-buildpackage in my workingdir seems to be working | 00:25 |
| pjz | it had the wrong version (previous version, b/c I'm porting from impish to focal) of debhelpers | 00:25 |
| sarnold | pjz: ah, if you don't have a ppa already, then you could do the local biuld, and set up sbuild or pbuilder to do the build locally | 00:27 |
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| Swift110-mobile | jpnurmi: would kdeconnect be helpful to you? | 02:10 |
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| UsrLocalLibera | Can't speak? | 03:30 |
| tsujp | how can I find logs only from a specific facility? `tail -f /var/log/syslog` gives me all logs from all facilities, I just want those from `local0` only | 04:40 |
| tsujp | to read them that is | 04:40 |
| lotuspsychje | tsujp: syslog is the oldskool way, ubuntu uses journalctl -f now to see all system logs | 04:42 |
| lotuspsychje | !journalctl | 04:42 |
| ubottu | journalctl is a command for viewing logs collected by systemd-journald. E.g. "journalctl -f" reports system messages as they are logged until you press Ctrl+C. See the journalctl !man page for other options. | 04:42 |
| tsujp | `journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=16` it appears to be where 16 is the code for local0 | 04:42 |
| tsujp | So when using Docker should I use the syslog driver or the journald driver to put those logs into a specific facility | 04:45 |
| tsujp | the journald driver doesnt appear to have those options, the syslog one does | 04:45 |
| tsujp | the syslog one just worked so unsure if I _should_ try the journald | 04:45 |
| rbasak | journald abstracts log messages into structured key/value pairs | 04:49 |
| rbasak | So there's no specific "syslog facility" any more there | 04:50 |
| rbasak | SYSLOG_FACILITY is just a key | 04:50 |
| rbasak | And you can make your own up | 04:50 |
| rbasak | That's probably why you can't find anything specific about syslog facilities in your journald driver | 04:50 |
| rbasak | http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/en/man7/systemd.journal-fields.7.html has details | 04:51 |
| tsujp | im talking specifically about this too https://docs.docker.com/config/containers/logging/journald/ | 04:51 |
| tsujp | if thats the case I can try set SYSLOG_FACILITY with the `env` option? | 04:51 |
| rbasak | Why are you trying to set SYSLOG_FACILITY anyway? | 04:53 |
| rbasak | With journald it's just a compatibility thing. If you adopt journald completely, there's no point setting it. | 04:53 |
| tsujp | because I want logs from docker to go to a specific facility | 04:53 |
| tsujp | so I can log that facility in a cloud providers logging service | 04:54 |
| rbasak | As long as journald is hooked up to that then, I guess setting SYSLOG_FACILITY would work. | 04:55 |
| rbasak | I'm not sure it would be though? | 04:55 |
| rbasak | Depends on the service. | 04:55 |
| rbasak | Oh, apparently journald will forward messages. | 04:56 |
| rbasak | But then you'd be round tripping through journald, which seems pointless then. I'd use your syslog driver | 04:56 |
| tsujp | Gotcha, cheers | 04:59 |
| kiwichap | hello I have lost some apps on the icon | 05:00 |
| kiwichap | my ubuntu crashed and then I reset it and then I had to remove the ubuntu store updater snapstore | 05:00 |
| kiwichap | and some of the apps need to be started by build.sh command | 05:01 |
| tsujp | Also just to be clear if journald forwards to syslog will it forward the structured stuff it makes or the raw it received rbasak? | 05:01 |
| rbasak | tsujp: I'm not sure but I suspect you'll lose everything but the syslog compatibility fields and the message | 05:04 |
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| makara | how can I change Gnome terminal's DEFAULT font? | 06:39 |
| makara | okkkkkkkk. Next question, why does gnome tweaks still feel like a hack | 06:45 |
| lotuspsychje | !discuss | makara | 06:47 |
| ubottu | makara: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! | 06:47 |
| user1 | hi | 06:49 |
| user1 | hii | 06:50 |
| rbasak | makara: GNOME Terminal supports multiple profiles. So you can just configure a profile to use the font you want, and set that profile to default. | 06:51 |
| rbasak | All through the configuration UI. | 06:51 |
| rbasak | (from the menu) | 06:51 |
| makara | it was rhetorical | 06:54 |
| makara | i have many profiles - dont want to set the font for each | 06:54 |
| Chan | hello | 07:12 |
| alkisg_web | Hello | 07:13 |
| Chan | has anybody done "LANG=C fakeroot debian/rules ARCH=arm64 CROSS_COMPILE=aarch64-linux-gnu- binary-headers binary-generic binary-perarch"? | 07:13 |
| Chan | This is for building ubuntu. | 07:14 |
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| Chan | I'm seeing 'check-config: FAIL (- != y): CONFIG_STACKPROTECTOR_PER_TASK policy<{'arm64': 'y'}>' error message and how to do it. | 07:16 |
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| cart_man | Is there a way I can stop my computer from giving apps the "away" signal if I havent moved my mouse in a while? | 07:37 |
| makara | cart_man: https://askubuntu.com/a/1228965/32006 | 07:42 |
| cart_man | makara: ty ty | 07:46 |
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| hossein_ | hi ev1 | 08:44 |
| Ronalds_Mazitis_ | hey | 09:05 |
| Ronalds_Mazitis_ | which file on ubuntu 18.04 has apache2 mime type? | 09:05 |
| olle | For sshd, must a "Match Group" setting be the LAST thing in the config?? | 09:27 |
| olle | It works when it's the last statement, but fails when it's in the middle of the sshd_config file | 09:29 |
| olle | Hm | 09:31 |
| Ronalds_Mazitis_ | https://askubuntu.com/questions/258780/how-to-add-mime-type-for-the-apache-webserver | 09:32 |
| Ronalds_Mazitis_ | hey how do I do this for ubuntu 18.04 | 09:32 |
| alkisg_web | olle, I faintly remember "yes"; I also tried to put it in sshd_config.d and I failed, and I reported it there: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=961007 | 09:33 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 961007 in openssh-server "Some directives are ignored under sshd_config.d" [Normal, Open] | 09:33 |
| olle | alkisg_web: Yeah, found a thread here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/67334/openssh-how-to-end-a-match-block | 09:35 |
| olle | Not related to the OS, but rather the ssh system itself, I guess | 09:36 |
| olle | Now all our ssh daemons failed >< | 09:36 |
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| Ronalds_Mazitis_ | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/65728301/how-to-use-es6-modules-on-apache-server | 09:49 |
| Ronalds_Mazitis_ | this seem to don't work | 09:49 |
| Ronalds_Mazitis_ | https://superuser.com/questions/553855/how-to-enable-mod-mime-on-apache2 | 09:56 |
| Ronalds_Mazitis_ | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/68192803/failed-to-load-module-script-expected-a-javascript-module-script-but-the-server | 10:16 |
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| Guest4429 | hello im getting the hdaudio .... could not bind codec error after installation or on live system (unless safe graphics mode) so every isntallation is unusable | 13:04 |
| Guest4429 | i google but no avail. | 13:04 |
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| Guest2169 | Hello, I've just finished installing ubuntu and I cannot get it to boot. Can someone please help me? | 14:38 |
| ioria | Guest2169, boot again the Livecd and select 'try mode' | 14:42 |
| Guest2169 | I can't my pc will not let me enter boot mode when i select f12 at the bios screen | 14:43 |
| ioria | bof | 14:44 |
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| shimbles | I upgraded to hirsute on AWS and can no longer start Kubuntu sudo /usr/bin/startplasma-x11 # $DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the X server. | 15:57 |
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| devslash | has anyone heard of Firefox causing a computer running Ubuntu 21.04 to shut down completely | 16:01 |
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| funnybunny2 | Hello | 16:38 |
| funnybunny2 | Was this never fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openbios-sparc/+bug/1177369 | 16:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 423910 in openbios-sparc (Ubuntu) "[needs-packaging] openbios-sparc has no installation candidate" [Wishlist, Confirmed] [duplicate: 1177369] | 16:38 |
| funnybunny2 | Not sure if related. Trying to use QEMU with sparc support. Did apt install qemu. Got this same error | 16:39 |
| funnybunny2 | I get qemu: could not load prom 'openbios-sparc32' when running qemu-system-sparc | 16:40 |
| funnybunny2 | I did apt install openbios-sparc and it fixed the problem | 16:42 |
| funnybunny2 | Oh well | 16:43 |
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| SirScott | with the disclaimer that i've never built .deb pkgs before, is it possible to generate packages for 18.04, 20.04 and 20.10 from a single 20.10 machine, or would I need to build on each target separately? | 16:46 |
| epi | I'm having an odd issue! I have a laptop on wifi that periodically loses internet access. It does not lose wifi access. Local ssh is fine, external pings to myself (external IP) periodically fail for several seconds before they start working. I am seeing random DNS errors (e.g. "Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'"). Other systems on the same wifi are not experiencing issues. Any advice where to look? (20.04) | 16:47 |
| shimbles | I upgraded to hirsute on AWS and can no longer start Kubuntu sudo /usr/bin/startplasma-x11 # $DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the X server. | 16:48 |
| ezakimak | hostapd seems finnicky. sometimes it won't start. sometimes when it starts wps_bpc doesn't work, and sometimes it all works. I can't seem to figure out how to get deterministic behavior | 16:53 |
| alkisg_web | SirScott, if it's open source, you can upload it to launchpad in a ppa, and it'll build it for all supported ubuntu versions | 16:56 |
| SirScott | alkisg_web: it is not | 16:56 |
| alkisg_web | SirScott, in some cases the same .deb can be used in many versions, e.g. "viber.deb" works in 16.04 and up; otherwise you'll need to set up build chroots for each one of them | 16:58 |
| SirScott | alkisg_web: can those multiple build chroots be setup on a single machine? e.g. a 20.10 machine would be able to build for itself, as well as for 18.04 and 20.04? | 17:03 |
| alkisg_web | SirScott, ye | 17:03 |
| alkisg_web | s | 17:03 |
| SirScott | alkisg_web: thanks for confirming that! https://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/chroots.html looks like the trick. | 17:05 |
| alkisg_web | SirScott, right, and there are also bigger programs for this like sbuild and pbuilder, but for simple things, a plain chroot is enough | 17:06 |
| SirScott | alkisg_web: ultimately i'll also need to build for debian as well. Seems like pbuilder might help tie all of these together into one dedicated build machine? | 17:08 |
| alkisg_web | SirScott, in all cases, you'll need a chroot for each of the build targets | 17:09 |
| alkisg_web | Even pbuilder uses chroots in the end | 17:10 |
| SirScott | alkisg_web: Excellent. Thank you for the help! | 17:11 |
| alkisg_web | np | 17:11 |
| alkisg_web | SirScott, for very big tasks, you could also host a private installation of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Build_Service | 17:12 |
| alkisg_web | It's like PPAs but for many more distributions | 17:12 |
| SirScott | alkisg_web: Looks useful, I appreciate the pointer! | 17:18 |
| SirScott | alkisg_web: since you seem to be knowledgeable in this area... do you have recommendations for self-hosting the results of these builds? | 17:24 |
| shimbles | I upgraded to hirsute on AWS and can no longer start Kubuntu sudo /usr/bin/startplasma-x11 # $DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the X server. | 17:25 |
| shimbles | I checked Xorg.0.log: [ 11.874] (II) VESA(0): Setting up VESA Mode 0x117 (1024x768) [ 11.879] (EE) VESA(0): Invalid default visual class (32510) Fatal server error:[ 11.879] (EE) AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0 | 17:25 |
| alkisg_web | SirScott, any web server will do; you can maintain a repository with "reprepro" | 17:37 |
| SirScott | alkisg_web: looks easy enough! | 17:39 |
| SirScott | alkisg_web: Last question. There are already many debian machines in my infrastructure - can I build pkgs for Ubuntu on them? It does look like I can build for Debian from Ubuntu...but if I don't have to install another OS, that'd be preferable. | 17:42 |
| alkisg_web | SirScott, sure, you just need ubuntu chroots on your debian machines | 17:43 |
| SirScott | alkisg_web: cool, wasn't sure if that was possible! Thanks! | 17:43 |
| goddard | so my system just crashed | 18:00 |
| goddard | i was able to log back in this time though | 18:00 |
| goddard | after ctrl alt 1 | 18:00 |
| goddard | firefox crashed | 18:00 |
| goddard | not sure if it is the thing that took down my system? | 18:01 |
| goddard | but my gnome shell session was fine | 18:01 |
| goddard | all apps still open | 18:01 |
| goddard | but bluetooth keyboard and mouse aren't working | 18:01 |
| goddard | i assume i have to reboot to get it working? | 18:01 |
| goddard | how can i really figure out what the issue was? | 18:01 |
| tomreyn | epi: power management, driver, firmware (for this wireless device) | 18:01 |
| tomreyn | goddard: "this time" sounds like you've been discussing this here before - which i have not read. but you should certainly take a look at your logs, starting with dmesg. for dmesg from before you last rebooted, you do journalctl -kb -1 and for important errors from before the latest reboot you do journalctl -b -1 -p 3 | 18:06 |
| tomreyn | if you want those for the current session, replace "-1" by "0" | 18:06 |
| epi | tomreyn: t, I'll take a looksy | 18:30 |
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| change_name | hello | 18:47 |
| change_name | so i installed kubuntu 21.04 on my laptop as a dual boot setup; the issue is that periodically it will completely freeze. no prior warning at all. the mouse won't work, and reisub does not work | 18:48 |
| change_name | i installed kexec-tools or whatever it's called to hopefully get some sort of crash log | 18:48 |
| change_name | but i don't think it gets to that point | 18:49 |
| change_name | i did one cycle of memtest86 | 18:49 |
| change_name | idk why memtest86+ isn't in GRUB | 18:49 |
| epi | yeh I had to make a usb stick just for memtest | 18:51 |
| tomreyn | change_name: the open source memtest86+ (memtest.org) is bios boot only, if you're uefi booting it would not work. | 18:52 |
| change_name | what's the difference | 18:52 |
| change_name | how would i run it then | 18:52 |
| change_name | but rn im using windows and i don't get the hangs | 18:53 |
| change_name | i have absolutely no clue how to isolate this issue | 18:53 |
| tomreyn | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash | 18:54 |
| change_name | idk what goes wrong before it crashes | 18:54 |
| change_name | i swear to god all the PCs i have are cursed in their own way | 18:54 |
| change_name | and i just have to work around it | 18:54 |
| tomreyn | also update the mainboard firmware | 18:55 |
| change_name | let me see if there's any update 0_0 | 18:55 |
| change_name | for my mobo | 18:55 |
| change_name | there is | 18:59 |
| change_name | i will keep you all posted | 18:59 |
| goddard | tomreyn thanks | 19:19 |
| goddard | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YcYV9rnCyC/ | 19:19 |
| goddard | thats the journal for just today | 19:20 |
| tomreyn | goddard: and your ubuntu and kernel versions and hardware are? | 19:21 |
| goddard | here is part of the dmesg for bluetooth | 19:21 |
| goddard | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Bmst7JRdpC/ | 19:21 |
| goddard | probably unrelated to the lock up | 19:21 |
| goddard | kern | 19:21 |
| goddard | Linux prismatic 5.11.0-22-generic #23-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 17 00:34:23 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 19:21 |
| goddard | hardware is x399 | 19:22 |
| apteryx | Hello! I'm running a Qt application in a Ubuntu 20.04 VM. I noticed high CPU usage, so ran callgrind on it, and it seems most CPU is used by the swrast_dri.so binary. Is this expected? | 19:23 |
| tomreyn | goddard: so i assume you *may* be on Ubuntu 21.04 | 19:24 |
| goddard | tomreyn here is the complete dmesg if you wanna see | 19:24 |
| goddard | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bs7mKRB7bN/ | 19:24 |
| goddard | yeah | 19:24 |
| goddard | not an upgrade | 19:24 |
| goddard | usually it only happens after i come back to my computer | 19:25 |
| goddard | after like i sleep or something | 19:25 |
| sarnold | apteryx: if you're using 'graphics' in the vm, yeah, that probably makes sense | 19:27 |
| morgans | o start this at the last reboot. | 19:28 |
| morgans | https://www.thesprucepets.com/nanday-conures-390579 | 19:28 |
| morgans | But they will eat YOU? lol. "Though generally affectionate, this bird has a strong beak and will use it on occasion. For this reason, it may not be the right choice for households with small children. " | 19:28 |
| tomreyn | !ot | morgans | 19:29 |
| ubottu | morgans: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 19:29 |
| morgans | oops. hexchat is at fault not me. | 19:29 |
| morgans | sorry sorry./ | 19:29 |
| morgans | hi tomreyn ... this ubuntu install is still bogging down every two days, without the beeps. does it with chrome or firefox (many tabs). | 19:30 |
| morgans | 20.04 | 19:30 |
| tomreyn | morgans: you're writing this like we discussed this before. i don't doubt that we did, but .. i'm afraid my memory is rather limited. please describe the full issue again, for the channel, if you're seeking assistence. | 19:32 |
| epi | hmm I see what looks like port 22 is open. I can ssh into my own system from myself, but if I try to ssh in from another system on the same network, I get a connection refused. I used ufw to allow ssh and then enabled ufw. What could I have missed? | 19:36 |
| apteryx | sarnold: OK, thanks | 19:37 |
| apteryx | i see that swrast is deprecated. Is there a way to use something newer, perhaps more performant in Ubuntu 20.04 for virtualized graphics? | 19:37 |
| tomreyn | goddard: it's most likely unrelated, but your logs are filling up with the "foliate" snap trying to access /proc/zoneinfo, but failing to due to being a snap / contrained by apparmor. this is likely a bug in the snap, you could try to report, if you can find out how. | 19:38 |
| epi | As I try and fail to connect, I do not see any DROP counts increase in iptables. | 19:38 |
| goddard | tomreyn yeah it will probably be an issue when logs grow out of control | 19:41 |
| TJ- | epi: are the connections using IPv4 or IPv6 ? | 19:42 |
| TJ- | epi: also, is UFC using ip{,6}tables-legacy or ip{,6}tables-nft (netfilters) | 19:44 |
| epi | Not sure off the top of my head. I'm running iptables (not the 6) and seeing "UFW" named (rules?) | 19:45 |
| epi | I'm using ipv4 on the client side, if that matters :) | 19:45 |
| morgans | I am thinking the reason my computer slowsdowntofreezealmost is because an UPDATE NOW? window appears but neer comes to the front. It sucks all the now-ness out of the response. Could that be true and if so what can I do about it? | 19:52 |
| morgans | just robooted 20.04 | 19:53 |
| epi | My ssh iptables woes went away with a reboot | 19:56 |
| epi | Ah crap, after a few seconds the ssh port started getting blocked | 20:23 |
| morgans | epi how do I tell if that is happening? | 20:29 |
| epi | When I invoke ssh user@my_ip from another machine, I now get the error port 22: Connection refused | 20:30 |
| epi | Right after a reboot, I was able to connect fine.. hmm | 20:32 |
| cbreak | ssh is more verbose with its output with -v, maybe that tells you more. If you have access to the machine, check if sshd is actually running | 20:37 |
| cbreak | systemctl status sshd | 20:37 |
| epi | cbreak: Yeah, I see with lsof that it's listening to 22 on ipv4 and 6 | 20:41 |
| epi | The service log shows it got the initial connection earlier on, and now it doesn't see any new connection attempts | 20:42 |
| Muligan | hey fellas, working w/truenas & ubuntu 20.04lts, trying to establish a cifs connection, keep getting an error "No dialect specified on mount. Default has changed to a more secure dialect, SMB2.1 or later (e.g. SMB3), from CIFS (SMB1). To use the less secure SMB1 dialect to access old servers which do not support SMB3 (or SMB2.1) specify vers=1.0 on mount. | 20:42 |
| Muligan | " | 20:42 |
| Muligan | Any suggestions? | 20:42 |
| cbreak | check the log file of sshd. | 20:43 |
| epi | Ok i will. Just checked iptables-save and I see "-A ufw-user-input -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT | 20:43 |
| epi | " | 20:43 |
| epi | hah it's working again. let's see how long until it goes back to connection refused... | 20:46 |
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| webchat86 | I cant get Blania etcher, ISO flashing tool, to open on my Debian 10 LXDE system\ | 20:52 |
| leftyfb | webchat86: maybe try #debian? | 21:07 |
| webchat86 | True thanks | 21:08 |
| webchat86 | Do you guys think Ubuntu is more secure by default than Debian | 21:09 |
| webchat86 | Im thinking of installing Lubuntu | 21:09 |
| Mekaneck | Lubuntu uses LXQt these days iirc not lxde | 21:09 |
| webchat86 | right | 21:09 |
| webchat86 | What do you think is better | 21:09 |
| leftyfb | webchat86: you are welcome to try ubuntu. It's free | 21:10 |
| webchat86 | LXQt or LXDE | 21:10 |
| webchat86 | Yes | 21:10 |
| webchat86 | I want lightweight so looking at Lubuntu | 21:10 |
| ezakimak | last comparison I read showed LXDE used about the same amount of ram as full on kde | 21:10 |
| Mekaneck | and how secure your system is depends on the end user | 21:11 |
| webchat86 | holy sheeeeeeeee | 21:11 |
| webchat86 | LXDE just as laggy as KDE? | 21:11 |
| webchat86 | ? | 21:11 |
| ezakimak | or KDE got smaller | 21:11 |
| ezakimak | I think it was a phoronix or ars technica comparison | 21:11 |
| Mekaneck | ezakimak: KDE Plasma uses up between 950MB and 1GB of RAM | 21:11 |
| ezakimak | rather surprising results | 21:11 |
| ezakimak | the "lightweight" dms weren't as light as they claimed, and the full DEs weren't as heavy as thought either | 21:12 |
| morgans | epi thanks. | 21:12 |
| webchat86 | https://www.hamishmb.com/blog/lxqt-review/ | 21:12 |
| webchat86 | LXDE was using like 256MB on a test I saw | 21:12 |
| goddard | damit system locked up again | 21:13 |
| goddard | i think i gotta install a different distro and see if it solves the issue | 21:13 |
| Mekaneck | good luck then | 21:14 |
| webchat86 | https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-lean-linux-desktop-environment-lxde-vs-xfce-vs-mate/ | 21:14 |
| ezakimak | it was forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/10/23/bold-prediction-kde-will-steal-the-lightweight-linux-desktop-crown-in-2020/ | 21:15 |
| morgans | someone in the local linux group suggested xbuuntu rather than lubuntu | 21:15 |
| webchat86 | https://www.maketecheasier.com/lxde-vs-xfce/ | 21:15 |
| Mekaneck | webchat86: that's actually offtopic | 21:15 |
| webchat86 | Hmm why? | 21:15 |
| webchat86 | morgans | 21:15 |
| morgans | anyone here have a take on the efficiency of xubuntu? | 21:15 |
| morgans | aka is it lightweight? | 21:15 |
| winlundn | morgans: yes, it's like lubuntu | 21:16 |
| webchat86 | xubuntu uses XFCE. XFCE uses double the RAM of LXDE | 21:16 |
| Mekaneck | try it from a live usb session and you'll know morgans ;) | 21:16 |
| webchat86 | So I'll use Debian in LXDE Destktop environment | 21:16 |
| morgans | so not lightweight aka same as kde? | 21:16 |
| morgans | my HD laptop wouldnt display proprely in x or mate. | 21:16 |
| goddard | last i saw KDE was one of the most light weight | 21:16 |
| Mekaneck | kde isn't lightweight, it's about the same as gnome | 21:17 |
| webchat86 | KDE uses the most ram I belive | 21:17 |
| morgans | ok thanks for that info goddard | 21:17 |
| Mekaneck | webchat86: as i said before, between 950 and 1GB of RAM | 21:17 |
| morgans | so none are lightweight. The discussion is a scam. (not here) | 21:17 |
| jailbreak | No it does not. | 21:18 |
| goddard | the most light weight is just use a console | 21:18 |
| goddard | no DE | 21:18 |
| jailbreak | Xfce is very lightweight. | 21:18 |
| Mekaneck | if you want to discuss DE's and Lightweightness it's best to do so in #ubuntu-discuss or offtopic | 21:18 |
| Mekaneck | this conversation has nothing to do with ubuntu support | 21:19 |
| jailbreak | 😂 | 21:19 |
| Mekaneck | -_- | 21:19 |
| Mekaneck | typical... | 21:19 |
| morgans | I have 8 G of ram, that isnt my problem. 20.04 normal keep getting slow it might as well be frozen and I must hard-roboot. (dell computer) and I have no idea what is the problem. I have been wondering here and chasing cats up various trees for several months now. or a year... (time flies) | 21:20 |
| ezakimak | what does ram and swap usage look like? | 21:20 |
| morgans | Mekaneck, THERE IS A SUPPORT QUESTION FOR YOU. | 21:20 |
| morgans | oops | 21:20 |
| morgans | 20.04 no windows on the drive. | 21:21 |
| epi | Okay different problem I have is I can't get the HDMI output on this laptop to work. It's an intel controller, galago pro 3. I've previously had it working under Pop, but I did a complete wipe and putting ubuntu on for a media center / data storage setup. | 21:35 |
| epi | The monitor reports no signal over the HDMI, and there's nothing listed under the displays tab in settings | 21:35 |
| epi | lshw shows a UHD Graphics 620 | 21:36 |
| webchat33 | try another cable, and reinstall OS | 21:36 |
| epi | reinstalling the os is how I got here, I'll find another cable | 21:37 |
| leftyfb | webchat33: that's not helpful. IS there something we can help you with? | 21:37 |
| webchat33 | Is ubuntu more secure/more updated/have a better security team than Debian | 21:39 |
| webchat33 | Im on Debian, considering ubuntu | 21:40 |
| webchat33 | Want the most secure OS | 21:40 |
| webchat33 | by default | 21:40 |
| epi | Different cable, same issue. | 21:41 |
| cbreak | webchat33: what's your attack model? | 21:44 |
| webchat33 | NSA | 21:45 |
| epi | xrandr doesn't even know the HDMI port exists.. that seems bad | 21:46 |
| epi | Oh neat, pcieport shows some errors in dmesg | 21:48 |
| epi | Okay I was able to clean up the dmesg a bit by setting pcie_aspm=off on the boot | 21:54 |
| epi | I see now I have an error about HDMI-A-2: EDID is invalid, so looking this up | 21:54 |
| hsv | xdg-open /tmp/html/index.html | 22:56 |
| hsv | gio: file:///tmp/html/index.html: No application is registered as handling this file | 22:56 |
| hsv | Hi, What's needed to make this ^ work? | 22:57 |
| * hsv already installed firefox. | 22:58 | |
| hsv | running firefox directly on the same file works, it's just xdg-open that fails. | 23:00 |
| guiverc | rail77ff | 23:21 |
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