[00:59] <moffa> Can anyone help me troubleshoot why a systemd unit status Active: inactive (dead) even though it's enabled
[01:01] <sarnold> systemctl status <unitname> may help
[01:02] <moffa> It says loaded
[01:05] <moffa> Is there any program that can tell me why it's not starting?
[01:05] <leftyfb> moffa: did you start it?
[01:06] <moffa> I enabled it, I have to manually start it every reboot
[01:06] <leftyfb> moffa: journalctl -u <service name>  # to see the logs of why it might not be starting
[01:07] <moffa> There is just the --Reboot-- then the Started Daemon when I manually started it
[01:07] <leftyfb> moffa: what service is it?
[01:07] <moffa> Deluged daemon
[01:09] <moffa> I added a After and Requires  =mnt.mount sys-devices-virtual-net-wg0.device so its starts after the drive is mounted and wireguard is up
[01:09] <moffa> Both required units show active and running, so I'm not sure why it won't start
[01:11] <sarnold> hmm, if the status output didn't include any logs that showed why, you might have to check application-specific logs
[01:14] <moffa> good idea, I'll try that
[01:16] <noarb> do I have to install a driver to get sound working from the green Front/Headphones jack? The motherboard advertises audio VIA VT2021 codec, High Definition Audio, 2/4/5.1/7.1-channel, Support for S/PDIF Out (https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-Z77X-UD3H-rev-12/sp). But HDMI output sound and bluetooth sound are working with pulseaudio
[01:17] <SupremeKai> Hey guys, I have an error in linux-base, I cannot do apt-get install
[01:17] <SupremeKai> dpkg: error processing package linux-base (--configure):
[01:17] <SupremeKai>  installed linux-base package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1
[01:17] <SupremeKai> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:17] <SupremeKai>  linux-base
[01:18] <moffa> noarb: No you don't, you have to check the auto-mute settings is alsa-mixer. I had the same motherboard
[01:18] <SupremeKai> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:18] <SupremeKai> What should I do to fix this linux-base error?
[01:18] <SupremeKai> I guess it was a problem when the computer shut down upon apt-get of another package OR when the system was upgrading ubuntu. I have ubuntu 20.04
[01:18] <leftyfb> !paste | SupremeKai
[01:19] <moffa> SupremeKai: did you try a "dpkg --configure -a"
[01:20] <leftyfb> SupremeKai: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ; apt-cache policy linux-base ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:21] <noarb> plugging in a speaker via an aux cable to the output doesn't register it in System > Sound
[01:22] <noarb> I've checked with alsamixer to make sure nothing is muted
[01:22] <noarb> But even then, shouldn't an analog/digital audio source be available in System > Sound ?
[01:22] <oerheks> noarb, maybe this reset fixes things; pulseaudio -k && sudo alsa force-reload
[01:24] <noarb> that didn't work. Should I be able to plug a speaker into a different channel and see it appear?
[01:31] <moffa> noarb: There is an item called "Auto-Mute", make sure its disabled by pressing up/down. It's what worked for me
[01:35] <noarb> Ok, thanks. I'll keep looking into it. Is it odd that HDMI audio and bluetooth headsets work OK? So audio is working in some capacity
[01:37] <moffa> Well those use a different sound card (ish).  Try putting the volume up and unmuting the different items.  I eventually got it to work
[01:55] <SupremeKai> leftyfb, thank you! Sorry for posting the error directly, I tried dpkg --configure -a and it gives a linux-base error. Should I do the termbin command?
[01:55] <leftyfb> SupremeKai: that is a start to give us more information, yes
[01:56] <SupremeKai> leftyfb, https://termbin.com/07gu
[01:58] <leftyfb> SupremeKai: change your main repository from pt.archive.ubuntu.com to us.archive.ubuntu.com, then sudo apt clean ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt install --reinstall linux-base ; sudo apt full-upgrade
[02:01] <SupremeKai> leftyfb, updated to us. but when I do the 2nd part I get an error => E: Internal Error, No file name for linux-base:amd64 => https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T7hQQ4RmJz/
[02:02] <SupremeKai> Should I continue or not? [Y/n] the last propmt is still active to choose Y/n
[02:04] <leftyfb> yeah, that shouldn't affect the issue
[02:06] <SupremeKai> in progress :)
[02:06] <SupremeKai> it gave an error :\
[02:06] <leftyfb> can you pastebin it?
[02:07] <leftyfb> what got you into this mess? Something is totally messed up
[02:08] <SupremeKai> yup, probably an issue with update of the distro or an apt-get install fckd up
[02:08] <SupremeKai> yes, I can, it's about the linux-base
[02:09] <leftyfb> SupremeKai: normal updated won't cause this. Unless something was royally messed up with that pt.archive.ubuntu.com repo
[02:09] <SupremeKai> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/D95Pjg7HNn/
[02:09] <SupremeKai> I did it again, it gets fckd up at apt install --reinstall linux-base
[02:10] <SupremeKai> leftyfb, right now I'm using us repo
[02:13] <leftyfb> SupremeKai: this could make things much worse, but this is all I can come up with at the moment. Make sure you have a backup of your stuff in the even you need to reinstall. sudo apt clean; sudo dpkg -r --force-depends linux-base && sudo apt update ; sudo apt install linux-base
[02:13] <leftyfb> if the first command lists a ton of packages that will be removed, then maybe don't do it
[02:15] <SupremeKai> let me just reboot
[02:15] <SupremeKai> and try again the last command
[02:15] <SupremeKai> if it doesn't work I will back this thing up
[02:15] <leftyfb> rebooting isn't going to fix anything, this isn't Windows
[02:15] <SupremeKai> do u have any tool for fast backup? or only copy/paste?
[02:16] <SupremeKai> leftyfb, I tried to install python-is-python3 meanwhile and some process is hang on config.dat
[02:16] <SupremeKai> at 9%
[02:16] <SupremeKai> can I clean the cache of apt-get install or some thing like that?
[02:16] <sarnold> the python-is-python* packages just let you select which python programs you want to break :)
[02:16] <leftyfb> SupremeKai: you did that while we were troubleshooting here?
[02:17] <SupremeKai> leftyfb, after u gave me the last option
[02:17] <SupremeKai> just to check if it would work
[02:17] <SupremeKai> I think this is an apt problem no?
[02:17] <sarnold> perhaps, but flailing wildly is unlikely to help things
[02:18] <sarnold> leftyfb had done some research and come to the conclusion that the command he suggested was likely to work
[02:18] <sarnold> and if not, we'd learn something about the problem with the error messages, ifany
[02:19] <SupremeKai> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[02:19] <SupremeKai> this is the main issue
[02:19] <SupremeKai> otherwise linux-base was already installed :\
[02:20] <sarnold> I think I've seen someone else with that error message, they were ignoring some debconf prompts in another terminal or something similar
[02:20] <sarnold> they made things much worse by killing processes; I can't recall how that one turned out..
[02:21] <SupremeKai> but what is linux-base?
[02:22] <sarnold> apt-cache show linux-base --> This package contains files and support scripts for all Linux images.
[02:24] <SupremeKai> thnks
[02:31] <SupremeKai> leftyfb, sarnold https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pp3k7dRN4M/
[02:31] <SupremeKai> I guess this process is hanging it
[02:32] <SupremeKai> what is this? => root       10068    2397 48 03:26 ?        00:01:42 /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/share/debconf/frontend /sbin/update-secureboot-policy --enroll-key
[02:34] <SupremeKai> solved! :D
[02:34] <moffa> It's secure boot
[02:34] <sarnold> oh sweet, did you find the terminal where that questoin was beingasked?
[02:35] <SupremeKai> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bDFxnJgJk4/
[02:35] <SupremeKai> ^ solution ! Thank you very much sarnold & leftyfb !! :D []
[02:36] <CyL> So I just installed and updated Ubuntu on a laptop, but Xorg keeps crashing at startup.
[02:36] <CyL> I'm a bit lost to where to start finding the problem, but I believe it might be realted to it's NVidia card
[02:37] <night81> hello all. I just installed ubuntu 20.04 on my virtual machine and am not trying to install rdiff-backup using sudo apt-get install rdiff-backup
[02:38] <night81> but it says "unable to locate package rdiff-backup"
[02:38] <night81> I already tried apt-get update and that didnt change anything
[02:38] <moffa> Did you enable the universe repo?
[02:38] <night81> I did not.
[02:38] <night81> can you tell me how to do that?
[02:39] <moffa> are you using a gui?
[02:39] <leftyfb> !universe | night81
[02:39] <night81> nevermind, google told me how
[02:39] <sarnold> night81: I think "sudo apt-add-repository universe" will do the trick
[02:39] <night81> Awesome. Thanks for the help
[02:40] <MrMobius> is there any way to estimate how much ram and cpu i might need for an ubuntu server? planning on processing source code (ie text files) in python then compiling them. just me connecting. trying to avoid paying for what i dont need
[02:41] <MrMobius> like maybe run a vm on windows and keep track of memory usage if there's any way to do that while im doing what i will need it to do
[02:43] <sarnold> MrMobius: I used to use however much memory the computer has, in gigabytes, as a guideline for make -j N commands
[02:44] <sarnold> MrMobius: but today dividing the RAM of the computer (in gigabytes) by 1.5 is probably a better metric for the make -j parameter in typical projects
[02:47] <MrMobius> sarnold, interesting. how about if youre doing something like assembly on one core? i dont think -j would help with that
[02:47] <MrMobius> *assembling
[02:48] <sarnold> MrMobius: it depends upon the project, yeah... if it's only got one or two source files, it wouldn't help :)
[02:48] <sarnold> MrMobius: if there's a few hundred, it might help quite a lot..
[02:54] <kantlivelong> anyone know where I can get older debs for nvidia drivers? I'm looking for 460.39-0ubuntu0.20.04.1
[02:54] <moffa> kantlivelong: nvidia-driver-460
[02:55] <moffa> It's in the repos
[02:56] <sarnold> kantlivelong: launchpad has everything, even versions no longer in the repos https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-460/+publishinghistory
[02:56] <moffa> You can just use "apt download nvidia-driver-460"
[02:58] <sarnold> moffa: really? my apt policy shows that 460.80-0ubuntu0.20.04.2 is the version I'd download... I haven't updated my apt sources in a few days, but I'm already a handful of versions beyond the one that kantlivelong wants
[02:58] <kantlivelong> sarnold: thanks :)
[02:58] <kantlivelong> moffa: yeah that installs tha latest minor ver of 460. prob is i have an issue with a recent minor ver
[03:00] <moffa> ah darn you are right
[03:01] <moffa> sarnold's launchpad link works great
[03:01] <sarnold> it's just not very convenient :)
[03:01] <moffa> yeah especially with dependencies
[03:01] <sarnold> I wish we had something like debian's snapshots repo
[03:01] <kantlivelong> better than not being able to resume from suspend
[03:01] <sarnold> :)
[03:32] <kantlivelong> yay solved
[03:32] <kantlivelong> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-460/+bug/1911055
[03:32] <kantlivelong> reverting to .39 worked
[03:34] <kevr> How can I add a package to a repository?
[03:34] <kevr> (my own local repository)
[03:34] <kevr> it's been some time since I set it up and... I completely forgot. lol.
[03:38] <kevr> i have layout: `./dists/, ./conf/, ./pool/`, ./db/`
[03:44] <Unit193> Sounds like reperpro.
[03:49] <kevr> Unit193: It does seem to be. I'm not sure if I used that tool originally, but it does seem to work -- I am running into one issue, though; I guess it wants me to sign the repository or something
[03:49] <kevr> Hmm.
[03:49] <Unit193> Most likely, at least if done correctly.  The most common tools are reprepro, aptly, and mini-dinstall.
[03:50] <kevr> Unit193: do you know how to force it to try again? I ran it on my package, it succeeded other than the gpg signing, and now it just skipping the package if I try again.
[03:50] <Unit193> kevr: Not specifically no, I've only ever used mini-dinstall.  Sorry.
[03:53] <kevr> 'gpgme gave error Pinentry:32769:  Permission denied'
[03:53] <kevr> The hell..
[03:54] <kevr> Ah, i see!
[03:54] <kevr> It is a sudo issue.
[03:55] <kevr> There we are. :)
[04:31] <SupremeKai> Hey guys, I'm using ubuntu 20.04, at the snap store (UBUNTU SOFTWARE) I was checking my installed packages and the only one that I CANNOT REMOVE is: "Pinyin" - *why??*
[06:49] <rfried> Hi. there's seems to be some kind of process that creates few network bridges and ip routes that launches automatically on boot. I couldn't find who it is.
[06:49] <rfried> Anyone has an idea on how can I tracker the process ? (Ubuntu server 20.04)
[06:54] <roltux> Rfried, you could use auditd to track prosses, files, users etc.
[06:55] <toddc> could be snaps too?
[07:19] <rfried> roltux, toddc: It was docker. dangling network stuff.
[07:19] <rfried> "docker network prune" cleaned everything
[07:19] <rfried> Thanks
[07:31] <toddc> rfried: docker would not be my default ubuntu install thought but it is along the same process. as long as it is fixed!
[08:25] <TheBigK> i found out what the problem was with steam. somehow i thought its related to the nvidia driver... which it werent... when i set my wireless connection from wpa3 to wpa2 i can start steam again. i assume this is a bug in NetworkManager... I gonna check if theres a bug report for it
[08:58] <parallax> is this the intended url http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/
[09:03] <TheBigK> in the upstream network-manager in seems to be fixed. https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/-/issues/744
[09:03] <TheBigK> is there going to be a fix in ubuntu 21.04 ?
[09:05] <webchat30> Hi
[09:06] <webchat30> Can you guide me in the installation of Ubuntu ?
[09:08] <TheBigK> webchat30: ofc... whats ur question related to
[09:08] <toddc> webchat30: look over this guide we need to if dual boot with another OS https://phoenixnap.com/kb/install-ubuntu-20-04
[09:17] <gpeskens[w]> Is it by design that terminal windows started via CTRL+ALT+T no longer steal focus?!?
[09:32] <sixwheeledbeast> they always on top for me
[09:34] <sixwheeledbeast> seems daft not to, you want a terminal to type in not look pretty in the background
[09:34] <sixwheeledbeast> at the point of calling it anyway
[09:36] <gpeskens[w]> yeah
[09:36] <gpeskens[w]> I "think" it might be because I upgraded to 21.04 and that has shifted to wayland by default
[09:37] <gpeskens[w]> At home I also upgraded, experienced loads of annoyances with wayland (copy buffers between X11 hosted applications and wayland applications not working being the biggest gripe) and switched back the same day.
[09:37] <gpeskens[w]> And there I don't have the same issue.
[10:07] <cbreak> I don't think 21.04 uses wayland in general.
[10:07] <cbreak> at least I don't think it does here, and I never disabled it conciously.
[10:16] <ph88> when i put a new self signed ca-certificate does the filename have to be of a specific format ?
[10:16] <ph88> into /usr/local/share/ca-certificates
[11:31] <kieto> Hi! Whenever I plug the speakers on my lenovo laptop, sometimes the microphone stops working (if I unplug it, it gets fixed). Any idea how can I troubleshoot what happens when I plug in the speakers? https://imgur.com/a/qyaG1hC
[11:33] <zaggynl> hey, if you're using pulseaudio you can check arch's wiki on troubleshooting: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting
[11:34] <nyuszika7h> when I'm using Xorg session on Ubuntu 21.04 some apps do not respect my 125% fractional scaling setting and display at 100%, is there a way to fix this?
[11:43] <kieto> zaggynl: thanks! I'll check it
[11:50] <ph88> how can i save all environment variables to a file?
[11:54] <kieto> ph88: `env > afile.txt` ?
[11:55] <rhys-the-davies> Count down to Juju community office hours in 5 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzK4vQulZk8
[11:55] <ph88> thank you kieto :)
[12:50] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:55] <CyL> So, I just installed Ubuntu on this laptop, and when I go to Additional Drivers, it shows I have a manually installed driver?
[13:14] <nazz> is ubuntu 21.04 a modified linux kernel or the original one? and does generic kernel mean the original kernel? because: https://ubuntu.com/kernel doens't mention anything about it being a modified kernel
[13:15] <rbasak> What do you mean by "modified"/
[13:15] <rbasak> ?
[13:16] <rbasak> If you mean does Ubuntu patch upstream kernel sources, the answer is yes.
[13:16] <nazz> 21.04?
[13:16] <nazz> why isn't it mentioned
[13:16] <rbasak> Where would you expect it mentioned?
[13:16] <nazz> what's a partch upstream kernel anyway? doens't it mean that it's modified?
[13:16] <nazz> or "updated"
[13:16] <rbasak> It's the norm to the extent that I'm surprised you expect anything different.
[13:17] <nazz> where is it mentioned ?
[13:17] <nazz> so i call it linux? or wha?
[13:17] <nazz> what*
[13:18] <rbasak> It's the norm to still call it Linux.
[13:18] <rbasak> This isn't special to Ubuntu. Nearly all distributions patch things to some extent.
[13:19] <nazz> so why is it called linux? can you tell me what linux is again? like which part is linux (all distros compared)
[13:20] <rbasak> Linux is the kernel.
[13:22] <nazz> the command line is not a part of the kernel i suppose
[13:22] <nazz> correct?
[13:22] <TheBigK> back to steam and wpa3... i fixed it by installing steam beta with a more current network-manager client included. so i can use wpa3 again... good news :)
[13:22] <yates_work> i want to install this ppa on another computer: APT-Sources: http://ppa.launchpad.net/matteosecli/latexml/ubuntu bionic/main amd
[13:22] <yates_work> how do i do that?
[13:23] <leftyfb> yates_work: I gave you the answer yesterday
[13:23] <leftyfb> 2021 Jun 29 15:28:38 <leftyfb>	yates: https://launchpad.net/~matteosecli/+archive/ubuntu/latexml
[13:24] <leftyfb> nazz: https://ubuntu.com/kernel
[13:24] <nazz> i know =)
[13:25] <nazz> it's not clear so i was asking
[13:25] <nazz> oh crap.. wait.. what is a ubuntu patch upstream kernel sources
[13:25] <nazz> again?
[13:26] <leftyfb> nazz: what is the support issue you are trying to solve?
[13:26] <nazz> i wana know why linux distros modify the kernel?
[13:26] <nazz> and things related to that
[13:26] <yates_work> leftyfb: that was the day before yesterday, but point taken. thank you. this is a different context, and i didn't remember the real command
[13:26] <nazz> (questions)
[13:27] <leftyfb> nazz: why?
[13:27] <nazz> what?
[13:27] <leftyfb> nazz: why do you need to know? Is something no working for you?
[13:28] <nazz> yes i like to program (my hobby)
[13:28] <nazz> just installed lmde 4 and ubuntu 21.04 on my two laptops
[13:28] <nazz> lmde 4 is not a modified kernel i think...
[13:28] <leftyfb> nazz: I doubt that
[13:29] <matsaman> modified from Ubuntu's version, you mean?
[13:29] <leftyfb> oh, lmdb = mint. That is 100% a modified kernel
[13:29] <nazz> huh? relaly? what again??? :P
[13:29] <nazz> i mean matsaman
[13:30] <nazz> leftyfb: i dont' think so.. it's the point of it or something (linuxmint.com)
[13:33] <nazz> hello? :P
[13:33]  * Strike Brb IDLE
[13:33] <leftyfb> nazz: you are better off asking in #linux.
[13:33] <matsaman> nazz: hi
[13:34] <matsaman> nazz: what's up?
[13:35] <nazz> hi
[13:35] <nazz> i said huh really to you
[13:35] <nazz> leftyfb: ok
[13:35] <leftyfb> nazz: if you have something wrong with your machine, we're happy to help. But I'm not sure this is the place for people taking you through every explanation of linux kernel patches and why someone would apply patches. You have a lot to learn, but this isn't the place to teach you.
[13:36] <nazz> so #linux huh?
[13:36] <leftyfb> nazz: yes
[13:36] <leftyfb> nazz: good luck
[13:37] <CyL> So, I have Ubuntu reporting it has a manually installed driver on a fresh install, and I've got Xorg crashing on it too. Any adivce?
[13:51] <gv> southpark eric cartman
[13:52] <leftyfb> gv: is there an ubuntu support issue we can help you with?
[13:52] <gv> Is there something installed by default in Ubuntu like HexChat to chat or the default way is using firefox to chat?
[13:53] <leftyfb> gv: hexchat is not installed by default. Thunderbird can be used as an IRC client, though not a very good one. Thunderbird is installed by default
[13:54] <matsaman> really? Ha. New to me. Is it an addon or a preinstalled for Thunderbird?
[13:54] <gv> so does ubuntu recommends using thunderbird?
[13:54] <yates_work> is there a current fix for this problem? https://askubuntu.com/questions/636566/bluetooth-hsp-hfp-not-working-but-a2dp-is
[13:54] <matsaman> gv: hexchat is the most popular GUI IRC client, IMO
[13:55] <matsaman> gv: and irssi the most popular non-GUI/text/terminal one
[13:55] <matsaman> yates_work: for which?
[13:55] <iOllieN> Looks like charmhub is overloaded /o1# juju deploy cinder-ceph
[13:55] <iOllieN> ERROR storing charm "cinder-ceph": cannot retrieve "https://api.charmhub.io/api/v1/charms/download/TqF6Rjcn88x9WvMwcuwEfGkAymplxFHT_477.charm": unable to locate archive (store API responded with status: 503 Service Unavailable)
[13:55] <yates_work> matsaman: ? huh ?
[13:56] <matsaman> yates_work: fix for what problem?
[13:56] <leftyfb> iOllieN: maybe try #juju
[13:56] <iOllieN> leftyfb: thanks there doesnt seem to be any active p[eople there was hoping there might be someone from canonical here to see it
[13:56] <leftyfb> gv: Ubuntu recommends Ubuntu. Specific use cases and applications is up to you
[13:56] <yates_work> matsaman: who said anything about a problem?
[13:56] <ogra> iOllieN, something general in the canonical infra seems down ...
[13:57] <ogra> launchpad and other services too
[13:57] <iOllieN> ahh okay thanks
[13:57] <matsaman> yates_work: you did
[13:57] <iOllieN> makes sense then
[13:57] <ogra> just wait ....
[13:57] <ogra> (known and being worked on)
[13:57] <yates_work> matsaman: since you evidently can't or don't want to read the first two to three sentences of that link, nevermind
[13:58]  * matsaman shrugs
[13:58] <gv> leftyfb: ok, what are you using to chat?
[13:58] <yates_work> "I am able to get the A2DP function to operate but not the HSP/HFP mode."
[13:58] <yates_work> that is the root problem
[13:58] <leftyfb> gv: irrelevant. Go try hexchat. That is a good beginner IRC client. See if you like it
[14:01] <yates_work> anyone except matsaman: is there a current fix for this problem? https://askubuntu.com/questions/636566/bluetooth-hsp-hfp-not-working-but-a2dp-is
[14:01] <gv> leftyfb: tried HexChat while using linuxmint, but now installed Ubuntu.
[14:01] <leftyfb> gv: feel free to ask for software recommendations in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:02] <gv> leftyfb: ok
[14:03] <yates_work> leftyfb: any thoughts on this one?
[14:03] <leftyfb> yates_work: nope, I don't do a whole lot with bluetooth on my pc's
[14:03] <yates_work> ok, well thanks anyway
[14:23] <noarb> what's the difference between https://releases.ubuntu.com/20.04.2/ubuntu-20.04.2-live-server-amd64.iso and https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/hirsute/current/hirsute-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk-kvm.img ? I've been running the first with virt-manager and friends. Does the KVM specific one have some performance benefits, or something else?
[14:36] <rbasak> noarb: once an installer. The other is a cloud image.
[14:37] <rbasak> Installers are meant for bare metal. The only use for an installer in a VM is for testing the installer.
[14:37] <rbasak> Cloud images are pre-prepared images ready to go. They're what you want for VMs, though some VM interfaces aren't set up for them.
[14:37] <rbasak> Maybe some -> many even
[14:47] <ApostleInTriumph> Hello. I am using sftp on nautilus between my system and a server. I was notified this is connection clogs the firewall logs. Can someone please suggest some alternatives? or suggest ways by which I can continue using SFTP without clogging the firewall logs? Thank you
[14:48] <noarb> Oh wow. I've been using the installer to install on an img, and then removing the installer iso. Thanks for clearing that up for me
[14:50] <rbasak> noarb: note though that cloud images need some extra information to differentiate themselves when they boot.
[14:51] <rbasak> So you need to use them in a VM environment that provides that.
[14:51] <rbasak> eg. multipass, lxd with --vm
[14:51] <rbasak> vagrant does something similar.
[14:52] <rbasak> The major public cloud providers provide the environment correctly, of course.
[14:52] <rbasak> That's how you get a VM booted quickly on them - they're not running the installer for you first :)
[14:52] <Sven_vB> hi :) I'm using Ubuntu focal and looking for easy ways to censor part of my screen in a screen recording. do we have some program that can just display a black rectangle, but resizeable? ImageMagick's "display" can almost do it, but it keeps the aspect ratio constant, and thus leaves a transparent area right of or below the black area if the window size doesn't match.
[14:52] <Lant> Hey I've read this... https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Mutter/RemoteDesktop
[14:53] <Lant> And it would seem others have talked about how Ubuntu 21.04 should be able to do RDP server support out of the box
[14:53] <Lant> but as that page says... "Currently there is no user interface for enabling RDP support, but in the future there will be."
[14:53] <Lant> so given I'm on 21.04, it's running with wayland... is there some CLI way to enable this?
[14:54] <rbasak> Sven_vB: would it be better and safer to arrange for your capture software to do that?
[14:54] <rbasak> Surely OBS must be able to do that, for example?
[14:54] <Sven_vB> rbasak, safer yes. however in my case it's just convenience for the viewers, so I prefer flexibility.
[14:55] <Sven_vB> I'm using VLC currently. OBS seemed a bit over the top
[14:56] <Sven_vB> currently I'm trying to abuse xev, but lacking a reliable way to detect its window ID if there are multiple xev windows
[14:56] <Sven_vB> (with the window ID, I can use imagemagick to paint it black)
[14:57] <Sven_vB> nevermind, I can only paint its background, the white rectangle stays.
[15:00] <infandum> Our Ubuntu computer, after some unknown (?) change, can no longer connect to the internet. I can ssh into it over the internet, but it cannot connect to the internet (no pip, apt, "Failed to connect to https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts. Check your Internet connection or proxy settings", etc.)
[15:01] <infandum> How can I diagnose and fix the issue?
[15:01] <dnegreira> Lant: have you looked into OBS? you can select what you want to share with shapes/windows/several other options and put that on a virtual display so that you can share it on a call or via a streaming service
[15:02] <Sven_vB> oh. I can just use an xterm with "sleep 1000d"
[15:02] <infandum> I think it might be a DNS issue as I cannot ping google.com but I can ping 8.8.8.8
[15:02] <Lant> dnegreira, that's not even remotely in the same ball park feature wise
[15:03] <Lant> dnegreira, you're just on about a video stream... I'm referring to remotely controlling a desktop using RDP rather than something slower than VNC
[15:04] <Sven_vB> or even better, xterm -hold -e true
[15:28] <dnegreira> Lant: sorry, my message was meant to be to Sven_vB.
[16:01] <CyL> Hi, I'm trying to install nvidia drivers from the official repository on a 64-bit Ubuntu, and it is grabbing a lot of dependencies that are for the i386 arch. I'm afraid it might be doing the wrong thing.
[16:02] <CyL> Is there another Ubuntu channel that I might possibly get some help besides this one?
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> CyL: is this the ppa you used ^^
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> CyL: or are you trying to install driver version from apt/ubuntu repos?
[16:07] <CyL> lotuspsychje: the one from the apt/ubuntu repos.
[16:07] <CyL> It's a barebones fresh install
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> CyL: you can check your available drivers for your card with; ubuntu-drivers list
[16:10] <CyL> lotuspsychje: Yeah, there are a few branches that are listed, and when I try to install the most recenbt ones, the apt install summary lists around 1GB of dependencies for the i386 arch.
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> CyL: in most cases apt is always right, but feel free to pastebin your apt output, so volunteers can take a look for you
[16:14] <CyL> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/PPT5ZC3mBw/
[16:16] <CyL> lotuspsychje: ^ I'm not sure if yoiu're willing to take a look at it, but here you go
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> CyL: looks pretty sane to me, apt doesnt spit out errors so thats a good thing
[16:19] <CyL> Oh, I'm afraid it might mess up since I'm willing to use ot with pre-compiled TensorFlow
[16:20] <CyL> I mean, why would it install a lot of i386 packages on a 64-bit install?
[16:20] <CyL> lotuspsychje: do you believe the ppa might be a better option?
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> CyL: like i said, apt is usualy smart, when it says it needs to install something, let it do its thing
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> CyL: as for apt vs ubuntu graphics ppa, is the users choice to choose the apt version vs the latest driver versions
[16:26] <furkan> hi, is anyone else here using fractional scaling on Ubuntu 21.04? i've been experiencing a bug with the dock (only w/ fractional scaling enabled) where the preview windows from the dock (when you mouse over an app icon) go way off the screen edge when i have a bunch of windows open (this doesn't happen with fractional scaling disabled)
[16:35] <fanhako> Hi, I am about to upgrade a server via ssh from bionic to focal. I need insurance it is safe to just run do-release-upgrade, won't I lose ssh connection? what about ppa, are they kept ?
[16:38] <furkan> fanhako: PPAs are disabled, and in my experience SSH connection survives but I'd suggest running the upgrade in tmux/screen so that you can get back in to your upgrader in case you get disconnected for some other reason
[16:39] <furkan> remote upgrades are always a bit of a gamble though
[16:39] <fanhako> furkan: so I can just reenable PPAs afterwards without reinstalling packages ?
[16:40] <furkan> even if the upgrade goes successfully your server might fail to boot (happened to me long ago when there was some change with mdadm)
[16:41] <fanhako> now I even more worried
[16:41] <furkan> you should be :)
[16:41] <furkan> i wouldn't do it if the server is mission-critical
[16:41] <furkan> or if you can't drive in and fix things up in case the upgrade goes bad
[16:42] <fanhako> it's a vps :'(
[16:42] <furkan> oh then you should be fine, you can always access it through VNC if your ssh fails
[16:43] <furkan> just make sure to run the do-release-upgrade under tmux or screen in that case and you're good to go
[16:43] <furkan> i'm assuming your VPS provider has a web-based VNC tool that you can access (i haven't seen a provider that doesn't)
[16:46] <furkan> and since it's a VM you're way less likely to run into weird driver or RAID issues that can arise with an upgrade and make your OS fail to boot
[16:46] <furkan> just go through the PPAs you need and make sure they're all compatible with the Ubuntu version you're upgrading to
[16:46] <fanhako> checked on mmap, 5900/tcp is closed. I don't have access to web dashboard of vps provider but I can ask someone who has credentials, it's OVH btw
[16:47] <furkan> i use OVH too, their dashboard is a little weird but let me check
[16:48] <furkan> oh you mean you don't have access to the account, i see
[16:51] <furkan> fanhako: for reference https://docs.ovh.com/ca/en/vps/use-kvm-for-vps/
[16:51] <tomreyn> fanhako: ensuring access to out of band management for a system you need to remotely run a release upgrade n should be considered a standard procedure.
[16:51] <tomreyn> fanhako: of course, regular backups are, too.
[16:52] <furkan> my dashboard looks a little different (maybe the screenshot is a bit out of date) but the "KVM" option is there
[16:55] <tomreyn> fanhako: once you have verified you have backups, purge (or downgrade to ubuntu versions, if those exist) any packages installed from PPAs, then do-release-upgrade. this actually runs within tmux, and spaws a separate ssh shell on a different port (which you should ensure is network accessible in case the port 22 sshd fails)
[16:56] <furkan> tomreyn: do-release-upgrade spawns a screen session doesn't it? but you need to have the screen package installed or else it doesn't (last time i checked)
[16:56] <tomreyn> is it gnu screen? i was thinking it's tmux, but you may be right
[16:57] <fanhako> I am not familiar with screen but will it be a problem if I run it in tmux ?
[16:57] <tomreyn> screen is the predecesor of tmux, so to say
[16:58] <furkan> tomreyn: yeah i remember since i ran into that a few years ago where i was doing the upgrade locally and it didn't spawn the screen session since i didn't have it installed (since i use tmux)
[16:58] <tomreyn> you probably don't want to encapsulate them, but you probably could
[16:59] <furkan> haven't had issues with running it under tmux myself, but as long as you have screen installed i guess you can let the tool do its own thing with screen
[16:59] <tomreyn> okay so that explains what your options are. have screen uninstalled and run it in tmux yourself, or have screen installed and don't run in tmux
[17:00] <furkan> yeah that makes sense
[17:02] <fanhako> good, I gained some confidence. If any of you guys encounters CDN issues, can't access major websites, you know what happened
[17:02] <fanhako> thanks for your support
[17:04] <furkan> next time, for bonus points you can do the upgrade at 5PM right before a major holiday or long weekend lol
[17:21] <ph88> how can i let wget read from stdin and pipe to stdout ?
[17:46] <sneep> ph88: What would wget reading from stdin accomplish?
[17:49] <cambrian_invader> you can always cheat and use /proc/self/fd/0 :)
[17:55] <ph88> sneep, reading the url where to download from
[18:11] <ice9> I have optimus laptop and when the integrated graphics is the primary gpu and nvidia is "on demand"; if the laptop is left unattended for a while until the screen is off, the whole system freeze and i have to hard reset; but if nvidia is the primary gpu, this issue doesn't occur, any idea?
[18:12] <gmcastil> I'm trying to install some 3rd party software that has an installer which checks for python to be installed using dpkg and it fails to identify it with this error: dpkg-query: package 'python' is not installed and no information is available. My understanding thus far is that the package has a different name now and my installer is looking for the old one, but I'm a little stuck on how to proceed
[18:13] <leftyfb> gmcastil: you'll need to contact the installer maintainer for support with their installer
[18:13] <gmcastil> leftyfb, not really a possibility
[18:14] <leftyfb> gmcastil: why not?
[18:14] <gmcastil> they (Xilinx) will simply tell me that my OS is not supported
[18:15] <gmcastil> i have a hard time believing that the problem is not solvable without the vendor rewriting their installer
[18:16] <leftyfb> gmcastil: try installing python-is-python2. Other than that, there's no official support for it
[18:16] <gmcastil> i have python-is-python2 installed
[18:17] <leftyfb> gmcastil: ok, then your only option is to get support from the 3rd party vendor or modify their installer
[18:18] <gmcastil> their installer has a few hundred lines of bash with a giant binary blob appended to the end
[18:53] <alsman3> can anyone help with alsa?
[18:53] <donofrio> what is issue?
[18:55] <alsman3> i run hdsploader and get error: Unable to open file '/lib/firmware/hdsploader/multiface_firmware_rev11.bin' for reading
[18:56] <alsman3> and such file does not exist at all
[18:56] <alsman3> alsamixer shows: No possibility to tune this sound device
[18:57] <jushur> alsman3: you obviously need the firmware to load first.
[18:57] <alsman3> but it is detected in alsamixer
[18:57] <alsman3> where can I get this firmware?
[18:57] <jushur> yes and no, the dev is detected, but it does not work without the firmware
[18:58] <alsman3> I thought that hdsploader is firmware itself
[18:59] <cambrian_invader> alsman3: apt-file search multiface_firmware_rev11.bin
[19:02] <jushur> alsman3: you checked dmesg ?
[19:02] <alsman3> not yet, i am not downloading apt-file database
[19:04] <alsman3> apt-file says there is no such file as multiface.firmware.bin
[19:04] <jushur> alsman3: i dont think you should need hdsploader if you have the firmware for your device. if it is installed it will show "successfully loaded" in dmesg i think. asuming the driver for it is as it should be.
[19:06] <alsman3> how to use dmesg?
[19:07] <alsman3> yes dmesg says card is found but there is no firmware
[19:08] <alsman3> snd_hdsp 0000:01:04.0: cannot load firmware multiface_firmware_rev11.bin
[19:08] <jushur> alsman3: what exact card is it? name/modelnr
[19:08] <alsman3> rme multiface hdsp hammerfall
[19:09] <alsman3> Direct firmware load for multiface_firmware_rev11.bin failed with error -2
[19:12] <jushur> alsman3: you know the modelnr? DIGI9652 or DIGI9636 perhaps?
[19:12] <alsman3> i found this page http://pd.klingt.org/files/hdsp-howto.html , is it helpful info?
[19:12] <alsman3> i think it is just hammerfall and perhaps 9652
[19:16] <jushur> alsman3: it should be supported by alsa, you have installed alsa-firmware?
[19:17] <alsman3> i installed alsa-firmware-loaders
[19:26] <alsman3> seems i have to build it myself https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=11917
[19:31] <jushur> alsman3: yes, also look at https://www.alsa-project.org/wiki/Matrix:Module-rme9652
[19:31] <jushur> alsman3: id advice to use ubuntu source files for the corresponding packages, to get it 'right' for your install.
[19:32] <jushur> may be slight differences using guides/packages from other sources.
[19:34] <alsman3> i can't find anyware alsa-firmware-1.0.24.1.tar.bz2
[19:35] <change_name> hello
[19:35] <change_name> it is me from yesterday
[19:36] <change_name> for reference
[19:36] <change_name> i have been experiencing random intermittent freezes
[19:36] <change_name> where the entire OS is locked up
[19:36] <change_name> reisub doesn't work
[19:36] <change_name> and i can't find any logs or whatnot
[19:37] <change_name> I am on my laptop and am dual booting with windows
[19:37] <change_name> how would i find the cause of it
[19:37] <change_name> i updated my bios
[19:39] <jushur> alsman3: you cannot just use the package name sudgested by a guide, you need to look up the proper package for your install.
[19:43] <change_name> https://old.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/koxomt/it_seems_like_plasma_has_gotten_a_lot_less_stable/ here might be a reddit post that's related to my issue
[19:54] <gmcastil> leftyfb, i was able to get the installer to work, but i had to add the /var/lib/dpkg/status file and add an entry there for the missing package
[19:55] <gmcastil> leftyfb, i dont know ubuntu
[19:55] <gmcastil> 's package database that well, so i dont know if a spurious 'python' entry is going to break things
[19:55] <leftyfb> gmcastil: yeah, that's probably not the best idea
[19:55] <gmcastil> `dpkg-query -s python` returns an error without it
[19:55] <gmcastil> yeah, i'm not a huge fan - i removed it after the installer completed
[19:56] <gmcastil> if the installer were less opaque, i might be able to tell it to ignore the python dependancy or something like that
[20:01] <alsman3> how can i install gcc gawk mauk cc cl.exe?
[20:02] <tomreyn> sudo apt install build-essential
[20:02] <gmcastil> that cl.exe is a bit out of place though
[20:03] <alsman3> thanks
[20:06] <tomreyn> change_name: i pointed oyu to this yesterday: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash - which of the methods discussed there have you tried?
[20:07] <alsman3> but ./configure says that cl.exe is needed
[20:08] <sarnold> alsman3: probably the README or INSTALLING file will tell you what cl.exe is and probably where you can get it
[20:08] <sarnold> alsman3: doing an apt-file search cl.exe doesn't return anything on my focal system
[20:10] <alsman3> it compiled without that file anyway
[21:10] <ApostleInTriumph> hello. can someone please tell me the URL this file is trying to download from? thank you
[21:10] <ApostleInTriumph> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ThibaultGROUEIX/3D-CODED/master/data/download_dataset.sh
[21:14] <sarnold> ApostleInTriumph: if you run it with bash -x ./foo.sh   it should emit the commands as it runs them, that will probably give you the urls nice and easy
[21:16] <ApostleInTriumph> sarnold thank you that helped me
[21:17] <sarnold> yay
[21:24] <ice99>  I have optimus laptop and when the integrated graphics is the primary gpu and nvidia is "on demand"; if the laptop is left unattended for a while until the screen is off, the whole system freeze and i have to hard reset; but if nvidia is the primary gpu, this issue doesn't occur, any idea?
[21:46] <alsman3> is there way to add shortcuts to desktop from any file from any folder?