[10:27] <daftykins> hrmm client farmhouse appears to be offline once again today, i've been told there was a power cut - something must not have come back
[10:30] <zxm-pi> a bit of a cycle to turn it off and on again? :-P
[10:30] <daftykins> might be :( 
[10:31] <daftykins> that'll ruin my Sunday backups from Exeter if i don't have it fired up!
[10:32] <daftykins> because of all the temporary nature of the location of the kit up there, the VDSL transceiver box is in the main house loft, then all the IT kit is in a spare bedroom on another side... so it could be that one bit isn't powered on
[10:48] <daftykins> last time she wasn't paying the bills, so i've checked that part first xD
[10:57] <daftykins> phew, barely enough coffee left to make a cup today!
[13:19] <penguin42> daftykins: Scan have tested the MB & CPU, no fault on MB and CPU fails to post; as I'd got to with the mb and test CPU
[13:23] <penguin42> so pretty glad it repeats for them
[14:56] <daftykins> penguin42: indeedy! one wobbly CPU then, my my
[14:56] <daftykins> i wonder how common this is
[14:58] <zxm-pi> how long have you been in i.t., how many cpus have you had fail?
[14:59] <daftykins> don't think i've had a single one
[14:59] <zxm-pi> of top of my head i can't remember a single cpu failure.
[14:59] <penguin42> pretty rare
[15:00] <zxm-pi> motherboards, parts of motherboards, ram, hard drives, power supplies, graphics cards sure
[15:00] <penguin42> perhaps this is 1) a consequence of Ryzens containing 5 separate chips on a carrier, so they're 5x more likely to fail??  2) Sods law against me
[15:01] <zxm-pi> possible, the airplane rule is that a 2 enginge plane is twice as likely to fail as it has twice as many things to go wrong :-)
[15:01] <daftykins> if you could have persuaded it that you didn't need it for work purposes, it may have spurred into life!
[15:01]  * penguin42 has just formally written an objection to a Puffin crossing  ; a good afternoon task for a penguin
[15:02] <daftykins> puffin crossing o0
[15:02] <penguin42> yeh, being planned for approximately outside my bedroom window....
[15:02] <daftykins> some kinda bridge/tunnel setup for the road?
[15:03] <daftykins> i only know of Puffins on a small rock just off from one of the smaller islands near me
[15:03] <daftykins> i'm typing from the farmhouse btw, having investigated the missing broadband service... any guesses what it was?
[15:04] <daftykins> client contacted me to say there had been a power cut overnight
[15:05] <zxm-pi> someone turned off the power?
[15:06] <daftykins> hehe, i was shocked to discover all devices and all blinken lights as they should be, upon arrival
[15:06] <zxm-pi> a power strip plugged inti itself?
[15:10] <penguin42> cat-against-IT?
[15:12] <daftykins> nope! router logs showed authentication failure, so i called into the ISP helpdesk... lad found a checkbox had unchecked itself mysteriously
[15:12] <daftykins> landline is also missing entirely but the lad on that helpdesk refuses to do anything given i'm not the account holder :|
[15:13] <penguin42> can't you put on a posh voice and pretend you are?
[15:13] <daftykins> i'd have to change gender too
[15:14] <daftykins> maybe with an appropriately placed bulldog clip...
[15:14] <zxm-pi> just tell them you smoke 80 cigs a day, unfiltered :-)
[16:09] <daftykins> time to head home
[16:12] <zxm-pi> o/
[16:58] <daftykins> woo found discount pizzas en route too (:
[17:50] <daftykins> hmm Kaseya RMM actively being exploited big time, thousands of small businesses affected... ransomeware'd out the wazoo
[17:56] <zxm-pi> oh no. they had their important business computers attached to the internets?
[17:56] <daftykins> :D
[17:57] <zxm-pi> leave that to your phone and keep accounts off the internets
[18:04] <daftykins> phone?
[18:06] <zxm-pi> check email on phone
[18:07] <daftykins> ah are you thinking Blackberry stuff? RMM in this context is remote management stuffs, managed service providers (MSPs) use RMM to enforce update checks and stuffs on fleets of comps
[18:14] <zxm-pi> the longer i see internet 'security' the more i lean towards maintaining 2 networks. one attached and one not for important work :-/
[18:15] <daftykins> all these added tools to 'help' and make things 'easier' just seem to be liabilities
[18:15] <zxm-pi> we're always 1 zero day away from total flamingo up
[18:15] <daftykins> i mean, OSs don't need help having holes to begin with :)
[19:01] <daftykins> must be pizza time!
[19:24] <daftykins> penguin42: i think the cores are all one silicon piece, then the I/O is another... so maybe one part or an interconnect failed in yours
[19:24] <daftykins> well, 5 cores per CCD 
[19:25] <daftykins> or however many for that gen
[19:26] <daftykins> https://hexus.net/media/uploaded/2019/6/2a13fac9-f38b-4eac-8076-b18152cd285b.PNG
[19:27] <daftykins> 4 per CCX, 8 per CCD
[19:56] <penguin42> daftykins: Ah, I think it's 2 CPU chiplets and 1 IO 
[19:58] <daftykins> yeah per pic
[19:58] <penguin42> daftykins: I've used some of the big EPYCs at work AMD eq of Xeon) and they have more
[19:58] <daftykins> yip yip
[20:15] <daftykins> wow, Overclockers.co.uk are rejecting shipping to Guernsey now as well
[20:15] <daftykins> what is happening with the world :(
[20:20] <daftykins> only selling to England and Ireland due to high demand, madness
[20:22] <penguin42> how does demand interact with where they ship?
[20:23] <daftykins> i suppose manufacturers are providing numbers by region and so their idea of selling in-country only just has a flaw of not also including us islanders
[20:23] <daftykins> it'd make sense if i were in France and it denied me, 'cause i could go to French (r)etailers
[20:24] <penguin42> erm well, if I can help
[20:25] <daftykins> thanks! but i'd have to take the VAT hit :D i was really just shopping for fun though
[20:25] <daftykins> i used a proxy courier to get around ebuyer's similar restrictions on UPSs a bit ago
[20:35] <penguin42> bouncing a UPS around can't be easy
[20:36] <daftykins> quite like the Jersey service ship2me.co.uk - they give you a Portsmouth address for retailers that refuse us islanders, then so long as you're willing to take the hit of tax and the extra fee, they bring it to your door
[20:37] <penguin42> nod
[20:38] <daftykins> i'm looking at server parts for fun, just getting an idea what those old 12th generation Dells could be upgraded with and so on
[20:39] <daftykins> that tower form factor HP i could have for free is just too low spec to really be worth using other than a kind of backup host
[20:39]  * penguin42 notes he's currently using his 11 year old i7-860 as his main desktop
[20:39] <daftykins> wow you held onto that one 'til you got the Ryzen?
[20:40] <penguin42> daftykins: Nod, it still does well; it's had a new GPU (that I took with onto the Ryzen) and an SSD, and it's hard drives got replaced along the way
[20:40] <daftykins> then again i went from the core 2 quad Q6600 i put together in 2007 to the skylake i7 (6th gen) in 2015
[20:41] <daftykins> mmm, probably decently viable for the meantime
[20:41] <penguin42> nod, thing is until I started building things like Libreoffice a quad i7-860 wasn't bad
[20:41] <daftykins> i had a feeling the multi-core beast was down to compilation work :D
[20:42] <daftykins> although is it work-work or just a preference for everything from source?
[20:42] <penguin42> daftykins: Not work-work; I've got much bigger machines somewhere in a data centre in the US
[20:42] <penguin42> daftykins: I was doing some debugging/fixing on LO for fun
[20:42] <daftykins> ah neat :D
[20:49] <penguin42> it's code is....big
[20:55] <penguin42> daftykins: That kaseya thing; they seem to be saying it's not just their 'cloud' solution (which they pulled the plug on quickly) - it looks like something managed to ship an update, so that people running on-premises servers got the update
[20:55] <daftykins> scary!
[20:57] <penguin42> ...but I always find it funny when Salford, Greater Manchester is most known from certs (including the bad one in this case)
[20:57] <daftykins> hehe
[21:35] <daftykins> https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/o9ak8i/my_upstairs_neighbors_kindly_gave_a_bath_my/
[21:36] <daftykins> crikey
[21:43] <zxm-pi> https://teddit.net/r/homelab/comments/o9ak8i/my_upstairs_neighbors_kindly_gave_a_bath_my/ the liter load for your browser version :-)
[21:43] <zxm-pi> i do wonder why they have a server rack at home though
[21:45] <daftykins> some network folk like to muck about with testing advanced setups with a homelab, don't really see much in that one to know though
[21:45] <zxm-pi> true true, but i'm more worried that his server farm is sucking up the buildings bandwidth and making a brownout a little more likely
[22:17] <daftykins> lot of football fans in town tonight... someone just smashed another pane in my front window
[22:24] <zxm-pi> gah, plexiglass is your answer for that. my brother replaced his glass windows with plexiglass after a breakin. no fecker was getting through that.
[22:27] <daftykins> not sure what pesky listed status regs require, i've got a layer of perspex on the inside to help insulation on the cheap
[22:28] <zxm-pi> i think plexiglass just looks like glass and can be installed like glass. been a while since my brother did it
[22:29] <zxm-pi> differences is it does have a life span when exposed to uv and you need a sledge hammer if you want to break glass to escape in an emergency
[22:39] <penguin42> what about laminate glass?
[22:44] <daftykins> hmm not familiar
[22:48] <zxm-pi> a type of glass with layers of plastic sandwiched between glass iirc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laminated_glass
[22:52] <penguin42> daftykins: As used by windscreens and things like firedoors
[22:55] <daftykins> it's pretty flimsy wood in the rest of the frame to be honest, anything too sturdy and something else will give xD
[23:01] <penguin42> you could add mantraps and claim they were historically accurate
[23:02] <daftykins> "mr.kins what is this moat doing here?"
[23:02] <daftykins> "listed building! listed moat!"
[23:11] <penguin42> makes sense to me