[00:00] good night. here its 01:59AM .. Thank you all [00:00] dreamon: Do you have a strong interest in how the package manager manages ? [00:01] yes.. [00:03] Where might I go to discuss bandwidth performance with Ubuntu on a RPi vs Raspberry Pi OS - and to get hints as to where the problem may be ? [00:03] dreamon: Then: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_more_readings_for_the_package_management will relate more than you may want to know :D We be Debian based :) [00:04] mengesb: depending upon what you're seeing, maybe here, maybe askubuntu, maybe a bug report.. [00:04] Ubuntu 20.04.2 arm64 seems to perform at about 50-67% of Raspberry Pi OS 2021-05-27 which is 32-bit [00:05] Well I can start here I suppose, then move on to where recommended so that I can supply the right stuff [00:07] Started off doing tests to ookla (speedtest), noticed peak performance at around 400-600mbps on a 1gbe line, moved to iperf tests, saw similar results from two hosts; changed to Raspberry Pi OS and now seeing line rate speeds at 940Mbit/s (near 1gbe line speed) [00:07] Using an RPi 4b rev 1.3 8gb [00:07] Bashing-om, OK. I will dig there.. ;) bye [00:08] the speedtest cli tool doesn't use disk I/O to transmit, and iperf doesn't back using disk I/O, so it's not a limit of the SD Card [00:08] hah, you anticipated my question.. [00:08] =) [00:09] Been poking at Jeff Gerling ; suggested I looked into what Ubuntu's network driver for the broadcom chipset might be [00:09] and if there might be an issue there [00:09] The other observation I had was that ping latency to ookla test servers was 2x that of the RPi OS tests... 10ms on Ubuntu; 5ms on RPi OS [00:10] about the only other potential difference (other than userlands being similar and the 32vs64 bit diff) is the kernel itself... but both being debian variants I would suspect they're very similar [00:11] Here's some of our exchange: https://github.com/geerlingguy/internet-pi/issues/105 [00:11] Issue 105 in geerlingguy/internet-pi "Speed test discrepancy - Pi 3 B+ not getting more than 260 Mbps up" [Open] [00:12] I realize the title of that refers to a RPi 3b+, I've since moved on to a 4b [00:13] Example of one of the best results on Ubuntu to Ookla: [00:13] Ping: 10.242 ms [00:13] Download: 558.92 Mbit/s [00:13] Upload: 488.00 Mbit/s [00:14] https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/2f7ac3ee-9feb-4243-99c0-e3623e2a49b4 is immediately after i changed to RPi OS [00:14] Latency: 4.59 ms (0.13 ms jitter) [00:14] Download: 928.06 Mbps (data used: 741.1 MB) [00:14] Upload: 803.41 Mbps (data used: 1.4 GB) [00:14] Packet Loss: 0.0% [00:14] Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/2f7ac3ee-9feb-4243-99c0-e3623e2a49b4 [00:15] basically, half the latency, twice the performance [00:15] to be fair, I haven't tried or looked to see if there was an ARM 32-bit Ubuntu version [00:17] Ubuntu was imaged using: ubuntu-20.04.2-preinstalled-server-arm64+raspi.img.xz [00:17] mengesb: so, I've got a few wild guesses.. (a) try booting with kernel command line mitigations=off, maybe there's a processor flaw mitigation that ubuntu has enabled that rpios doesn't have enabled.. (I haven't got a clue if these arm procs even have anything..) [00:18] hrm; k... let me snag another RPi and I'll give this a shot... (yes, embarassingly, I have SEVERAL) [00:18] mengesb: (b) maybe check the flow control algorithms in use, grep -i tcp /boot/config-* -- my rpi3b+ has: CONFIG_DEFAULT_TCP_CONG="cubic" [00:19] that's awesome though, it makes it easy to make sure your results make sense to test the same thing on several different pieces of hardware, etc [00:32] sarnold: There's no `tcp` settings in the RPi OS installation. Imaging Ubuntu right now [00:33] mengesb: do they keep the kernel configs for the running kernel in /proc/config.gz perhaps? [00:33] (on such a low-memory machine it would be very surprising..) [00:33] no; the only `c` in `/proc` are `cgroups cmdline consoles cpu/ cpuinfo crypto` [00:34] `/boot/config.txt` is generally where [00:34] I don't think it's even possible to build the kernel without tcp.. maybe that's just an urban legend.. but clearly you've got it, so it's got to be there :) [00:34] the kernel config is different from the rpi config [00:35] maybe check the files owned by their kernel packages? maybe they store the config somewhere else [00:35] http://rpf.io/configtxt [00:36] # Enable audio (loads snd_bcm2835) [00:36] dtparam=audio=on [00:36] # Enable audio (loads snd_bcm2835) [00:36] dtparam=audio=on [00:36] [pi4] [00:36] # Enable DRM VC4 V3D driver on top of the dispmanx display stack [00:36] dtoverlay=vc4-fkms-v3d [00:36] max_framebuffers=2 [00:36] [all] [00:36] dtoverlay=vc4-fkms-v3d [00:36] gpu_mem=16 [00:36] yeah that's the wrong thing :) [00:36] those are my only modifications [00:37] the kernel configs look like this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/thGWV8xJkx/ [00:38] i recall that stuff [00:38] 1 sec [00:42] hrm... [00:42] they're escaping me [00:46] hrm; no such thing on rpi os [00:48] booting RPi with Ubuntu 20.04.2 ... cloud-init will take it a second [00:52] Looks like Ubuntu 20.04.2 needs a ca certificates update ... cloud init failures due to SSL certs [00:54] ow. last I saw the plan for 20.04.3 was for mid-august https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule [00:58] =/ ugh.. have to reflash [00:59] setting a password this time... it's failing to sync ssh keys from lp and gh (ssl issues) [00:59] fun times === Osares104 is now known as Osares10 [01:06] Round 2 [01:08] this is looking much better [01:10] mengesb: I'm headed out for the night :) [01:12] awww k [01:12] thx for the hints thus far === M4he is now known as mahe === genii is now known as genii-core [01:32] l;man full disk encryption i set at installation really use alot of CPU on a busy server. have never seen that with other OS's, only on ubuntu? [01:37] https://gist.github.com/mengesb/d1f567dc0093f6cbe6ea50a6ce76fa42#file-ubuntu-20-04-02-config-5-4-0-1038 [02:15] i'm on ubuntu 18, trying to compile something using the ghostscript library. I'm trying to use -lcups but I keep getting cupsRasterWritePixels is undefined and other linker problems (same with X11). I got the source using apt-get source ghostscript and I got the deps using apt-get build-dep ghostscript so I don't know why i'm not getting the right versions? [03:15] Hi y'all. I'm back from earlier (the guy who's trying to rescue some files). I found some discrepancy between df -h /home/$USER and the output of gddrescue. Is it because I used --sparse with ddrescue? [03:17] If I run ls -lah from /home/$USER it says my sbd1.img from ddrescue is 466G, however, when I run df -h /home/$USER it returns "/dev/sda6 441G 187G 231G 45% /home" [03:17] How is it possible for a 466G file to be in /home when /home is 441G? [03:17] Or even worse, how come /home is only 45% used? lol [03:18] Once again, is it because of the sparse file deal? How do I know its true size? [03:25] I'll have to run but I'll check the logs in case anyone answers === SmokenatorZ3 is now known as SmokenatorZ === SmokenatorZ9 is now known as SmokenatorZ [04:22] hello [04:22] tolol === shubbu_ is now known as shubbu [04:49] Guest63: echo $((444*1024*1024)) => 465567744. The 444 is "Gibibytes"=GiB=1024*1024*1024, while the 466 is "Gigabytes"=GB=1000*1000*1000 [05:26] How to fix hostname in PS1 being cut to the first '.' symbol? [05:27] test.example shown just as 'test' [05:31] hello, I have Ubuntu 8.10 installed in my PC, Now I want to find Is PyCharm or Other Python IDE have versions for Ubuntu 8.10? [05:32] PS: I know there are IDEs Preinstalled in my PC, but the UI is not very charming... [05:34] Can anyone help? [05:35] OR isthere a software directory find the latest supported software versions for a specific Ubuntu version? [05:35] ??? [05:35] <_moep_> BoomCPU: 8.10 or 18.10? [05:35] 8.10 [05:36] _moep_ ? [05:36] <_moep_> BoomCPU: hm thats very old [05:36] <_moep_> and not supported any more [05:36] Ok. [05:37] I am not asking about support... [05:37] I want to find supported software versions Of a python IDE for 8.10. [05:37] _moep_ ok? [05:38] <_moep_> ah ok [05:38] so can you recommend me a software directory or something like that? _moep_ [05:39] :] [05:39] <_moep_> not rly. sry [05:40] BoomCPU: web-based IDE https://replit.com/ [05:41] @kon will it open in a 64mb ram? [05:41] on firefox? [05:41] I doubt Firefox will open a blank page [05:41] yea [05:42] Will the old firefox support the rich UI in replit.com Kon [05:42] _moep_ ok ok [05:42] Go ahead and try it [05:42] @kon ok [05:43] im now o my windows PC (office) [05:43] lol [05:44] Kon Multiplayer collaboration [05:44] 500MB of storage [05:44] 500MB of memory [05:44] 0.2 - 0.5 vCPUs [05:44] those are the free features Kon [05:44] It seems to work.... [05:44] jumping to docs on replit.... [05:45] <_moep_> how is it possible to control permissions for snap? only users with sudo should be allowed to install new snap image === mkv is now known as m4v [06:02] FOSS for all (lol) [06:02] hiall, I'm trying to install ubuntu onto a dell laptop; I went with the defaults, but now the laptop does not appear able to 'see' the hard drives, any ideas? [06:03] b0nn well dell is very hard with linux, anyway i donot know the answer... [06:05] b0nn: which version of ubuntu and what model laptop and drive? [06:06] current ubuntu (downloaded it last night) [06:07] dell xps 15 [06:07] current or current LTS? [06:07] current === kostkon__ is now known as kostkon [06:08] ok and you know there are Dell XPS models from 2012, you'll have to be a little more specific [06:09] Yes, if the box had more information I would type it out [06:09] XPS 13 9305 maybe? [06:09] serial number? [06:09] Notebook 9500 [06:09] ok that's the 15 right? [06:09] b0nn enter the serial number to dell.com [06:09] i7-10750H Intel CPU [06:09] yes 15 [06:09] easy a* [06:10] great. and do you know which model the disk is? looks like it's nvme of some type. [06:10] gparted has it as nvme0n1 [06:11] b0nn: oh, so it does see the hard drives [06:11] b0nn: what does lspci list it as? [06:11] well, the ubuntu can when I run it from the sd card [06:11] but the laptop cannot when I go to boot [06:12] https://www.google.com/search?q=nvme+linux+issues [06:12] so... ubuntu installs fine, but won't boot from the disk? [06:12] I'm going to assume that we all ignore BoomCPU [06:12] or the installer doesn't see it? [06:12] Well, the install isn't.. fine [06:12] the installer crashes [06:12] too good to relate? https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000132047/how-to-resolve-an-pcie-nvme-m-2-ssd-ubuntu-kubuntu-installation-problem-on-your-dell-pc#:~:text=How%20to%20resolve%20an%20PCIe%20NVMe%20M.2%20SSD%20Ubuntu/Kubuntu%20installation%20problem%20on%20your%20Dell%20personal%20computer [06:12] ok. were you able to run lspci? [06:14] well b0nn i just posted a link... why are you so angry [06:14] https://bpa.st/GARA [06:14] b0nn: great. it's the toshiba xg6 [06:14] at the end [06:15] ok [06:15] does the installer give an error message when it crashes? [06:16] The installer has partitioned the drive such that I have a 512MB fat32 efi partition, and a 476.66 ext4 partition [06:16] hrm, I get two errors, depending on how the installer is launched [06:17] one is ubi-partman failed with exit code 10 [06:17] I don't have the other one to hand [06:17] well #ubuntu is toooooo technical and cmd for me bye [06:20] b0nn: apparently the ubi-partman thing has been solved by some people by doing a manual partition [06:20] yeah, that's why I have gparted up [06:20] b0nn: clicking 'try ubuntu' instead of install, and then installing gparted from the software store and manually creating your efi partition [06:21] what I don't know is.. should I make the ext4 partition / ? [06:21] or the efi partition? [06:21] ext4 needs to be / [06:22] when I launch the installer I do not get given an opportunity to select partitions [06:22] b0nn: also, there are some saying that there may be a relevant firmware update for your SSD [06:23] it goes straight from "Normal installation" with "Other options" to "TZ" to "Installing" [06:24] WWW.UBUNTU.COM says no Internet connection and a bird [06:24] HELP ME [06:25] Croran: How would I upgrade the firmware? [06:27] webchat54: a bird? [06:29] b0nn: looks like the firmware update is from 2019... i bet yours already has it [06:29] b0nn: i think it worth trying the manual partition though [06:29] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1032905/ubi-partman-failed-with-exit-code-10-ubuntu-18-04 [06:30] b0nn: also, maybe give LTS a shot. [06:30] and if you remember the second error, that could be relevant too. [06:32] The installer encountered an error copying files to the hard disk: [Errno 5] Input/output error This is often due to a faulty CD/DVD disk or drive, or a faulty hard disk. [06:32] Then Installer crash [06:32] b0nn: ok. that seems consistent with it having failed partitioning. [06:32] Then boot to "Try Ubuntu" [06:34] It's saying that a previous install exists [06:34] but.. it won't boot to that install [06:35] I think I will go for a 30 minute walk to calm my nerves [06:36] b0nn: always a good idea [06:37] b0nn, IO errors on the CD/DVD imply to me you've faulty installation media, did you check the ISO & write to your installation media? [06:46] I don't understand why Ubuntu Software registers itself as the default application for debs but then just says "Failed to install file: File not supported" if you open a deb in it [06:47] kind of makes Ubuntu just seem like a broken system, no? [07:10] Can you escape to a shell during an ubuntu or xubuntu installation? How do you do that? [07:11] for example if you prefer setting up file systems using your preferred tools instead the gui etc [07:11] switch to a different TTY, by finding the right combination of alt, ctrl, shift and F2? [07:11] (which I always forget) [07:11] cbreak, is it a "supported" method or is it hacky [07:12] I think its ctrl+alt+fn for me [07:12] quite hacky. [07:12] cbreak, then how about the ubuntu server edition [07:12] does it provide an escape to shell [07:12] but if you want to set up your own FS, just start in live-usb mode [07:12] prepare the target in there [07:12] yeah that was just an example [07:12] then install without formating [07:12] for an fs really I could just prepare it beforehand [07:12] using any live usb [07:12] ubuntu or not [07:12] But like [07:13] in case I want to drop to shell for any reason during the setup [07:13] esp with regard to errors [07:13] switching to an other tty should work. [07:13] I see [07:13] And what about ubuntu server [07:13] does it allow you to drop to shell during the setup [07:13] I might install a desktop via the server image if it works [07:13] it should work there too. [07:13] guiverc: I had considered that, but thought that being able to boot from that image to install meant that any defects could be detected and new software downloaded [07:14] Its mainly for the purposes of having a proper "debugging environment" in case of any errors, cbreak [07:16] So, I left the installer running before I went out, and it's still running (about 40 minutes) with the shell attached saying that the last message was "NetworkManager-dispatcher.service: Succedded. [07:16] How much longer should I leave it running? [07:16] cbreak, what are the reasons you had to do this? [07:17] if I may ask [07:18] oh, cron just sent a message run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly [07:18] b0nn: can you do a summary? You're trying to install, and you got disk write errors, and you leave it in case it finishes? [07:19] So, I' [07:19] It seems the server installer actually provides an official means to go to a shell any time needed: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install/general [07:19] I've been trying to install ubuntu onto an XPS-15 (9500) - when I reboot the bios cannot see the disk, and a beep occurs, but not able to boot into Ubuntu [07:20] Maybe you're installing in BIOS mode, and it requires UEFI? [07:20] So I am trying to figure out what the problem is, the install, the computer, the settings [07:20] Currently are you booted via live CD? [07:20] yes [07:21] ls /sys/firmware/efi/ [07:21] config_table efivars fw_platform_size fw_vendor runtime runtime-map systab vars [07:21] If you run that ls command, do you see these files there? [07:21] That would mean you're in UEFI mode [07:22] yes, all those files/dirs are there [07:22] Can you also pastebin the disk layout? sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 [07:23] https://termbin.com/j8knc [07:24] When you're rebooting, you remove the SD card, right? [07:24] yes [07:25] Where does the installer keep logs? [07:25] Is the 'debootstrap' method still supported? [07:25] b0nn: Well things look good. So when the PC boots, what does it show, just a black screen and a beep sound? Do you see anything related to grub or ubuntu at all? [07:25] pikapika: sure debootstrap still works [07:25] I'll reboot for an accurate answer [07:26] pikapika: do what? switch to an other tty? [07:26] just looking at what it's doing [07:26] b0nn: if at all possible, get a video with your phone, it may help [07:26] Please remove the install media.. done [07:27] b0nn: that's the message you see when you try to boot the installed ubuntu?! [07:27] I think it's just the live cd shutdown message [07:27] cbreak, I see [07:27] Remove the sd card and reboot to see the boot message [07:27] My main reasons really are from fear what to do when installation faces some problems [07:27] no vide; so, Dell splash, beep, reboot, splash, beep, bios "No bootable devices found" [07:28] b0nn, is it a hard disk or ssd [07:28] Can you select the UEFI boot manager with F12 or a similar key? [07:28] efi or legacy bios? [07:28] ssd I think [07:29] IN BIOS, NO uefi bOOT dEVICES LISTED [07:30] b0nn: then maybe you need an UEFI firmware upgrade to boot from your NVME disk? Did you check for BIOS updates? [07:30] Did you have an OS in that disk in the past? [07:31] I did, but it got wiped a few hours ago [07:32] OK so maybe the problem is that the installation wasn't finished successfully and grub was not installed [07:32] Did you see any error messages while installing? [07:32] hmm, yes I have already posted them in the channel [07:33] Yeah I haven't read all the history, that's why I asked if you could give a summary. So if the installation wasn't successful, that would be the thing to fix [07:33] I.e. reinstall, and do it successfully, instead of trying to revive a possibly broken installation [07:34] Several (about 6) attempts at installation [07:34] And what was the error message? [07:34] 16:32 < b0nn> The installer encountered an error copying files to the hard disk: [Errno 5] Input/output error This is often due to a faulty CD/DVD disk or drive, or a faulty hard disk. [07:35] At that point, type `dmesg` to see which device it's talking about [07:35] If it's your internal ssd/nvme disk, then you need to replace it [07:35] If it's the SD card, then you need to replace that one [07:35] \16:17 < b0nn> one is ubi-partman failed with exit code 10 [07:36] The input/output error is the important one [07:36] yeah I think it's my SD Card [07:36] It means that either the SD card or your disk are worn out and need to be replaced [07:36] Run dmesg to see which one it is [07:36] But I cannot figure out if it's corrupted or not [07:36] Run dmesg to figure it out [07:39] https://termbin.com/5pxf [07:40] After you see the input/output error message, not right after reboot [07:40] lol [07:41] the io error happens when I rune the first installer so I willl need to reboot again [07:41] Reboot, go to "try ubuntu" [07:41] This will allow you to install AND have a terminal [07:41] When the installer fails, run dmesg in the terminal [07:42] Oh, I was /in/the "Try ubuntu" [07:44] OK, run the installer from there, from "try ubuntu" [07:45] Btw, when the live cd boots (or the sd card), it's supposed to do a disk check, so if it passes that one, then most probably the SSD disk is to blame [07:45] new error [07:46] No EFI System Partition was found [07:46] clicking go back takes me to gparted [07:47] which shows /dev/nvme0n1p1 fat32 /boot/efi [07:47] By "gparted" you mean the installer? [07:48] gparted is a separate program that you would run manually from the menu [07:48] Which device should I select for boot loader installation [07:48] yes, gparted is what I have been dropped into [07:48] Your nvme disk, /dev/nvme0n1 [07:48] or something that looks very much like it [07:48] Ubuntu doesn't load gparted on installation [07:48] I think you're talking about the partition selection dialog [07:49] the "continue" button refuses to become active [07:49] b0nn: can you take a screenshot and paste it somewhere? [07:50] how [07:50] b0nn: try pressing prtsc [07:52] imgur.com/a/zN8idBy [07:54] b0nn: click on the fat32 /boot/efi partition and choose type "efi" instead of fat32 [07:54] b0nn: go back a step, and select "erase all disk and install ubuntu" [07:54] There's no need to be confused with the existing, broken installation, and with the wrong boot loader (partition2) menu item there [07:54] b0nn: also, for device for bootloader installation choose /dev/nvme0n1 [07:55] b0nn: if you want a fresh installation choose "format" next to the lowermost ext4 partition [07:55] might as well format the efi partition too [07:55] https://termbin.com/eb60c [07:57] [ 787.921063] SQUASHFS error: Unable to read fragment cache entry [ae3533a] [07:57] b0nn: when you boot with the SD card, do you see a "check disk" message? [07:57] Where it checks the SD card contents? [07:57] No [07:58] What's the output of this command now? cat /proc/cmdline [07:58] And, how did you create the SD card with the live cd contents? [07:59] https://termbin.com/pqp1 [08:00] WRT SDCard creation, as per the instructions on some ubuntu page (was a couple of days ago) [08:01] EriC^^: are you aware of any tool that would result in this sd card layout? (gpt etc): https://termbin.com/j8knc [08:01] b0nn: I would re-create the SD card by using plain dd if=ubuntu.iso of=sdcard [08:01] nope === Guest80 is now known as branant [09:16] people, i am trying to install dssp v 3.0 apt install dssp (seems only v 4.0 available) but v 4.0 is a broken package, has a bug since 2020 rendering unusable (from their git issues),,, how can i find v 3.0 and install it (i know that it works)? i am on ubuntu 21 [09:20] hey I just installed 21.04, and have issues getting mesa-vulkan-drivers:i386, as dependencies can't be installed. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Fc8vyTwTpW/ === jpe__ is now known as sharperguy [09:38] hm seems like there is really something broken https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VGqT69XWbN/ [09:38] you have external ppa's added on your system quadrat ? === andrex is now known as SKonstist [09:38] lotuspsychje no none, as it's a new system [09:39] oO i have pinned packages [09:39] i just installed the system an hour ago [09:39] that could be a bug indeed then, just doublecheck your sources.list anyway [09:40] lotuspsychje here is apt policy https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3kRpbGHRZz/ and for whatever reason I have pinned packages [09:40] if I boot to a live cd(sd card) is it possible to run an installer that's on a different device (USB) === SKonstist is now known as SKonstus [09:40] how would i remove those, as I never pinned those [09:41] ahh there are phased packages, i guess that's why I have pins? === eho is now known as yarra [10:01] Hi all. I recently bought a bluetooth keyboard (keychron k6) and a bluetooth dongle (sabrent bt4). When my pc goes to sleep it takes about 30-40 seconds before the bluetooth dongle/process is activated, and I can type my password. [10:04] people, i am trying to instal dssp of an older version from apt, how can i find an older version? it seems only the latest is provided, is there way to find it and install it? [10:06] acresearch you can't as hirsute only has 4.0 [10:06] you would need to find a different source [10:07] Hi, I recently installed Ubuntu 20.04 on an Ideapad Y700 I5-ISK, and it is making the fan run constantly at full speed. I have tried installing tlp, which did nothing, then I ran fwts fan and got: Test fan status. 25 failed /n Load system, check CPU fan status. 30 failed. Does anyone know a way to fix this? [10:08] quadrat: what other sources should i look into? [10:10] acresearch i'm not sure, as everything below hirsute has 3.0, but i wouldn't recommend installing it from the older releases [10:10] quadrat: i am sorry, what do you mean? hirsute? is it a repo like apt? [10:11] quadrat: i am looking for dssp version 3.0 by the way [10:11] Maxii did you check that the uefi/bios/firmware is on the newest release. as lenovo doesn't support linux on non-thinkpads, you would need to check that at least everything is as new as possible [10:11] hirsute is the release name for 21.04 (which you probably have installed) [10:11] acresearch ^ [10:12] quadrat yes, my bios is up to date, i updated it a week ago [10:13] Maxii did you check with fancontrol? [10:13] How do I do that? [10:13] quadrat: hirsute: command not found [10:14] acresearch as I said, hirsute is just another name for Ubuntu 21.04 [10:14] quadrat: ah [10:14] Maxii the program is in the repos, so you would need to install it to check if you _can_ control the fan with it [10:14] quadrat: i am sorry, then where is version 3.0 of dssp? i am confused, i canno find it in apt [10:16] quadrat ok, i will try that, but i recently had 18.04 running on this laptop without such fan issues and Windows 10 dual booted doesn't seem to have a problem with the fans [10:17] Maxii so it sounds like it's a bug, did you check if maybe a different kernel helps? [10:17] acresearch it seems it's not that easy to fetch 3.0 as the homepage for 3.0 is not online anymore [10:18] I tried fancontrol, it says "Error: Can't read configuration file /etc/fancontrol [10:19] i'm not sure how i can check a different kernel version [10:20] Maxii when booting, you can press esc at the ubuntu screen when it first shows up, that should show you a table of different boot options, there should be one called advanced options [...] entering that should give you more kernel options when you have others installed (when you had ubuntu installed for a while, there should be 2-3) [10:21] Maxii for fancontrol, you can use pwmconfig to generate a config, (it will test if it can control the fan (tries to turn it off for 5 sec)) [10:23] Ok so, i have 5.8.0-59 and 5.8.0-43 (i haven't had this for a while, installed this to laptop 2 days ago), I guess it's usually loading 5.8.0.59 so I'll try with 5.8.0-43 [10:24] yes correct assumption, hope it works Maxii [10:28] Ok, using 5.8.0-43 didn't do anything, and I tried fancontrol pwmconfig and it still just says "Can't read configuration file" [10:28] Do I need to use it with sudo? [10:29] After several decades, at last I use IRC again. Hello Ubuntu! Hello Gnome! [10:33] Maxii yes [10:33] hey GoldenEye, welcome to the dark side :) [10:35] quadrat it says there are no pwn-capable sensor modules installed [10:36] Maxii okay thought that it maybe could get it running :/ [10:37] Maxii sorry then I am out of ideas [10:38] its ok, thanks for trying [10:39] Maxii you could still look maybe in the journal to see if we can find something. but pretty sure there shouldn't be too much, as fans are operated normally by the uefi/bios/firmware [10:46] so, I got ubuntu installed (I went and bought a new USB stick) [10:47] But I'm still having problems - the install works, then boots straight after removing the install media, but then it wont reboot ever again [10:47] just a flashing cursor top left of the screen [10:48] quadrat i just tried booting to the usb which i used to isntall 20.04, and it doesnt have the fans running at full speed [10:49] Maxii huh interesting. now we have to figure out what's going wrong, so maybe the journal does spit something out about the fan [10:49] what is this journal, i don't know? [10:50] journal = log [10:55] quadrat where do I access/see this and what do I lok for? [10:55] *look [10:57] Hallo [10:57] ok, have got a term, apparently the gdm3 hasn't started [10:57] Maxii "sudo journalctl -b" that gives you everything that happened this boot [10:59] ok, I'll try upload to termbin the journal of the boot to the usb, and the boot to the installed version [11:00] I hope there's no personal data in it [11:00] Maxii sorry but I have to leave, hope you can find somebody else who can help you. [11:01] ok [11:02] Maxii: try to install lm-sensors and run 'watch -n 1 sensors' to se temp of your cpu's [11:02] ledeni[m] ok, i will try this, but i think i had that installed and it couldn't access them or something, i'll just check again [11:06] does sudo jounalctl -b leak any personal info if i upload to termbin? [11:19] ledeni[m] They're all around 40-50 degrees [11:19]