| bigcalm | o/ | 10:18 |
|---|---|---|
| zxm-pi | \o | 10:18 |
| daftykins | \o/ | 10:19 |
| daftykins | coffee #1 on deck | 10:19 |
| bigcalm | Opinions differ at work - https://twitter.com/bigcalm/status/1413079610934317062 | 10:20 |
| * zxm-pi hugs bowl of wheatabix | 10:23 | |
| daftykins | i watch a bit of US baseball timezone permitting, but mostly just laugh if the team sucks - never did understand the emotional reactions of sportball fans | 10:28 |
| daftykins | it's really just background noise :D | 10:30 |
| zxm-pi | last thing i watched that would be considered a sport was robot wars back in the 90s :-) | 10:34 |
| MattJ | \o/ | 10:36 |
| daftykins | heh | 10:36 |
| zxm-pi | how is it different from a sport like formula 1, motorbike racing than a tech competition | 11:04 |
| daftykins | my laugh wasn't challenging the claim of it being a sport | 11:06 |
| zxm-pi | there are those that would | 11:07 |
| daftykins | oh no doubt | 11:07 |
| daftykins | sent me off in a brief reminiscing stint about seeing that on BBC2 on some old 14" JVC portable TV in my parents kitchen | 11:08 |
| zxm-pi | would be nice if they had a drone racing league sport on tv. maybe there is, my last tv died 10+ years ago | 11:08 |
| diddledan | <3 Robot Wars | 11:24 |
| bigcalm | Myrtti: congratulations :) | 11:31 |
| daftykins | psst what are we congratulating? | 11:35 |
| Myrtti | daftykins: https://twitter.com/myrtti/status/1413088115678457862 | 11:38 |
| diddledan | yey | 11:39 |
| daftykins | ooh officially a mainlander eh? | 11:39 |
| diddledan | one of us! | 11:39 |
| daftykins | also mmm pain au chocolat | 11:40 |
| * diddledan hungy now | 11:40 | |
| * daftykins chuckles at a client that wants to get lost in mail forwarding rather than letting the right people receive the things in the first place | 11:43 | |
| Myrtti | the whole passport thing was so extremely infuriating and stressful | 13:08 |
| Myrtti | I purposefully decided to leave the application to 2020 for many reasons, but the global panettone made things absolutely crackin' | 13:09 |
| daftykins | i'll bet | 13:09 |
| daftykins | UK gov tried to take over the production of our ones a bit ago, imagine how much of a chore that would become... | 13:09 |
| Myrtti | an uncle I don't ever remember meeting died (obviously in Finland) in the middle of the first lockdown and I had to somehow prove being alive and able to inherit with all the consular services and public notaries shut | 13:11 |
| daftykins | blech, hope that at least had the luxury of being casual on time | 13:12 |
| Myrtti | so I did that with a passport that had expired two weeks previous and getting neighbors to sign a letter saying I was who I said, alive and well | 13:12 |
| Myrtti | with 16 people waiting for me to send the paperwork so they could get their inheritance too | 13:13 |
| diddledan | oof | 13:13 |
| Myrtti | fortunately one is allowed to apply every second passport without a visit to the embassy or the Finnish police so I could apply for my passport online | 13:17 |
| Myrtti | every second == every other | 13:17 |
| Myrtti | but that process, while cheaper, doesn't ship overseas | 13:18 |
| daftykins | oy | 13:18 |
| Myrtti | fun fact: laminated coffee bags such as Lavazza, can block RFID | 13:19 |
| Myrtti | so I took the risk of having the passport lost in the mail over using public transport to get to London to apply for a passport | 13:20 |
| Myrtti | but in the end it all turned out ok. I got my 1/64 of the inheritance, got my passport, got the application in and by a miracle (to my catastrophe reverting brain) even approved. I wonder how long it takes for the fact to fully be absorbed into my psyche | 13:23 |
| Myrtti | it's been very rough five years | 13:23 |
| daftykins | 5 years on the passport? | 13:24 |
| Myrtti | well I've been on eggshells since the referendum, but yes, Finnish passports are also only 5 years max | 13:25 |
| bigcalm | Is there a way of writing this as a single chmod command? sudo chmod -R 0664 uploads && sudo chown -R +X uploads | 13:59 |
| MattJ | I wish. I never understood why permission assignment isn't atomic. Sometimes I use the 'install' command to achieve this though. | 14:02 |
| daftykins | i normally only call chown to change user ownership, not quite sure what you're doing with it there that shouldn't already be achieved by chmod | 14:03 |
| diddledan | a great (read: terrible) command to run is `chown -R nobody:nobody .*` | 14:33 |
| diddledan | (try it on a box you don't mind losing) | 14:33 |
| bigcalm | Oops, I wrote the line incorrectly. Should have been chmod in both instances :| | 15:30 |
| daftykins | ah har, well in the second half it seems like you're recursively added execute permission despite already using octal 664 earlier | 15:33 |
| daftykins | s/added/adding/ | 15:33 |
| bigcalm | 0664 sets everything (including directories) to -rw-rw-rw-. The +X sets the executable bit on directories only. | 15:42 |
| bigcalm | s/-rw-rw-rw-/-rw-rw-r--/ | 15:42 |
| bigcalm | Essentially I want all files to have the permission 0664, but I need all directories to have 0775 | 15:43 |
| webpigeon[m] | +X also sets execute if someone already has execute according to the man page, "execute/search only if the file is a directory or already has execute permission for some user (X)," | 15:49 |
| bigcalm | Hence setting 0664 first. So that all files have uniform permissions | 15:54 |
| bigcalm | I've tried using setacl before now. But never got it to work as hoped - any new file or directory created to get preset permissions and ownership, and not allowed to change it | 15:56 |
| daftykins | penguin42 did a presentation on all this for the Manchester LUG not long ago, may well be worth prodding him when he's about :D | 15:56 |
| bigcalm | Interesting | 15:59 |
| daftykins | diddledan: any chance you could check the M1 compatibility of an Apple store app? returning to a client my parents electrician is subcontracting me on tomorrow - and his little bird hutch wifi cameras have some lovely chenglish software :D | 20:16 |
| daftykins | oh it's not even store based, it's a dodgy direct DMG download - i bet this is unsupported - http://downloads.spycameracctv.com/VMS/software/VMS_Mac.dmg | 20:17 |
| diddledan | it might work via rosetta | 20:17 |
| diddledan | gimme a mo to get to me mac | 20:18 |
| daftykins | is that still free? | 20:18 |
| daftykins | ty sir! | 20:18 |
| daftykins | it's from these people fwiw - https://help.green-feathers.co.uk/support/solutions/articles/43000440457-wired-hd-ip-bird-box-camera-1st-2nd-gen-setup-on-windows-pc-apple-mac-ncip2-ncip9- | 20:19 |
| diddledan | seems to work fine as far as it launches without too much issue - you need to right-click and choose "open" the first time, because it's not signed so gatekeeper blocks execution | 20:41 |
| daftykins | *nod* thanks my good man! | 20:42 |
| diddledan | that might require that you set your mac to "app store and other apps" permission in settings app | 20:43 |
| daftykins | now i just need to make the kit the sparky provided the client with work with the rubbish TP-Link Deco mesh wifi system they were sold by a local shop | 20:43 |
| diddledan | the grey items at the bottom of this page https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/JOmUk9KG/image.png | 20:43 |
| daftykins | yip yip | 20:44 |
| daftykins | i find it weird how you have to give Big Sur permission to move the mouse pointer | 20:44 |
| daftykins | :D | 20:44 |
| diddledan | getting as bad as Windows? | 20:44 |
| daftykins | i think worse in a lot of ways, because everu one of the security technologies were bypassed recently - and progress bars are by far the worst on macOS now | 20:45 |
| daftykins | *every | 20:45 |
| daftykins | to bed! | 23:02 |
| zxm-pi | o/ | 23:12 |
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