[10:18] o/ [10:18] \o [10:19] \o/ [10:19] coffee #1 on deck [10:20] Opinions differ at work - https://twitter.com/bigcalm/status/1413079610934317062 [10:23] * zxm-pi hugs bowl of wheatabix [10:28] i watch a bit of US baseball timezone permitting, but mostly just laugh if the team sucks - never did understand the emotional reactions of sportball fans [10:30] it's really just background noise :D [10:34] last thing i watched that would be considered a sport was robot wars back in the 90s :-) [10:36] \o/ [10:36] heh [11:04] how is it different from a sport like formula 1, motorbike racing than a tech competition [11:06] my laugh wasn't challenging the claim of it being a sport [11:07] there are those that would [11:07] oh no doubt [11:08] sent me off in a brief reminiscing stint about seeing that on BBC2 on some old 14" JVC portable TV in my parents kitchen [11:08] would be nice if they had a drone racing league sport on tv. maybe there is, my last tv died 10+ years ago [11:24] <3 Robot Wars [11:31] Myrtti: congratulations :) [11:35] psst what are we congratulating? [11:38] daftykins: https://twitter.com/myrtti/status/1413088115678457862 [11:39] yey [11:39] ooh officially a mainlander eh? [11:39] one of us! [11:40] also mmm pain au chocolat [11:40] * diddledan hungy now [11:43] * daftykins chuckles at a client that wants to get lost in mail forwarding rather than letting the right people receive the things in the first place [13:08] the whole passport thing was so extremely infuriating and stressful [13:09] I purposefully decided to leave the application to 2020 for many reasons, but the global panettone made things absolutely crackin' [13:09] i'll bet [13:09] UK gov tried to take over the production of our ones a bit ago, imagine how much of a chore that would become... [13:11] an uncle I don't ever remember meeting died (obviously in Finland) in the middle of the first lockdown and I had to somehow prove being alive and able to inherit with all the consular services and public notaries shut [13:12] blech, hope that at least had the luxury of being casual on time [13:12] so I did that with a passport that had expired two weeks previous and getting neighbors to sign a letter saying I was who I said, alive and well [13:13] with 16 people waiting for me to send the paperwork so they could get their inheritance too [13:13] oof [13:17] fortunately one is allowed to apply every second passport without a visit to the embassy or the Finnish police so I could apply for my passport online [13:17] every second == every other [13:18] but that process, while cheaper, doesn't ship overseas [13:18] oy [13:19] fun fact: laminated coffee bags such as Lavazza, can block RFID [13:20] so I took the risk of having the passport lost in the mail over using public transport to get to London to apply for a passport [13:23] but in the end it all turned out ok. I got my 1/64 of the inheritance, got my passport, got the application in and by a miracle (to my catastrophe reverting brain) even approved. I wonder how long it takes for the fact to fully be absorbed into my psyche [13:23] it's been very rough five years [13:24] 5 years on the passport? [13:25] well I've been on eggshells since the referendum, but yes, Finnish passports are also only 5 years max [13:59] Is there a way of writing this as a single chmod command? sudo chmod -R 0664 uploads && sudo chown -R +X uploads [14:02] I wish. I never understood why permission assignment isn't atomic. Sometimes I use the 'install' command to achieve this though. [14:03] i normally only call chown to change user ownership, not quite sure what you're doing with it there that shouldn't already be achieved by chmod [14:33] a great (read: terrible) command to run is `chown -R nobody:nobody .*` [14:33] (try it on a box you don't mind losing) [15:30] Oops, I wrote the line incorrectly. Should have been chmod in both instances :| [15:33] ah har, well in the second half it seems like you're recursively added execute permission despite already using octal 664 earlier [15:33] s/added/adding/ [15:42] 0664 sets everything (including directories) to -rw-rw-rw-. The +X sets the executable bit on directories only. [15:42] s/-rw-rw-rw-/-rw-rw-r--/ [15:43] Essentially I want all files to have the permission 0664, but I need all directories to have 0775 [15:49] +X also sets execute if someone already has execute according to the man page, "execute/search only if the file is a directory or already has execute permission for some user (X)," [15:54] Hence setting 0664 first. So that all files have uniform permissions [15:56] I've tried using setacl before now. But never got it to work as hoped - any new file or directory created to get preset permissions and ownership, and not allowed to change it [15:56] penguin42 did a presentation on all this for the Manchester LUG not long ago, may well be worth prodding him when he's about :D [15:59] Interesting [20:16] diddledan: any chance you could check the M1 compatibility of an Apple store app? returning to a client my parents electrician is subcontracting me on tomorrow - and his little bird hutch wifi cameras have some lovely chenglish software :D [20:17] oh it's not even store based, it's a dodgy direct DMG download - i bet this is unsupported - http://downloads.spycameracctv.com/VMS/software/VMS_Mac.dmg [20:17] it might work via rosetta [20:18] gimme a mo to get to me mac [20:18] is that still free? [20:18] ty sir! [20:19] it's from these people fwiw - https://help.green-feathers.co.uk/support/solutions/articles/43000440457-wired-hd-ip-bird-box-camera-1st-2nd-gen-setup-on-windows-pc-apple-mac-ncip2-ncip9- [20:41] seems to work fine as far as it launches without too much issue - you need to right-click and choose "open" the first time, because it's not signed so gatekeeper blocks execution [20:42] *nod* thanks my good man! [20:43] that might require that you set your mac to "app store and other apps" permission in settings app [20:43] now i just need to make the kit the sparky provided the client with work with the rubbish TP-Link Deco mesh wifi system they were sold by a local shop [20:43] the grey items at the bottom of this page https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/JOmUk9KG/image.png [20:44] yip yip [20:44] i find it weird how you have to give Big Sur permission to move the mouse pointer [20:44] :D [20:44] getting as bad as Windows? [20:45] i think worse in a lot of ways, because everu one of the security technologies were bypassed recently - and progress bars are by far the worst on macOS now [20:45] *every [23:02] to bed! [23:12] o/