[00:01] <sarnold> Guest5210: heh, that's not great :(
[00:02] <Guest5210> Honestly even setting the device as managed doesn’t set the device as managed :/
[00:03] <Guest5210> And there is no /etc/network/interfaces file which could interfere
[00:04] <sarnold> OH NO :(
[00:05] <sarnold> if guest5210 returns, could someone paste this along? https://askubuntu.com/a/1075112/33812 :)
[00:07] <sarnold> Guest5210: YAY you're back
[00:07] <sarnold> Guest5210: https://askubuntu.com/a/1075112/33812
[00:07] <sarnold> Guest5210: I don't actually understand this answer
[00:07] <sarnold> Guest5210: all I know is that it masks the /usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d/10-globally-managed-devices.conf file that includes some gibberish about managing devices
[00:09] <Guest5210> Yeah i found it myself a second ago and it worked. But wth, why is it set as default that nm doesn’t manage _any_ device
[00:09] <sarnold> oh good ;)
[00:09] <sarnold> that might be worth a bug report
[00:11] <Guest5210> Hm, lol now snap doesn’t have completion :/  I guess that’s an issue for another day
[00:13] <sarnold> I wonder if that's one that'll Just Work after yet another reboot
[00:13] <Guest5210> Let’s see ^^
[00:14] <Guest5210> Sarnold yes you are right
[00:14] <sarnold> woot
[00:26] <Guest5210> !eol 20.10
[00:26] <Guest5210> !eol
[01:29] <Guest5210> sarnold did I understand you correctly that you are running lxd?
[01:31] <sarnold> Guest5210: yeah; I mainly use it to have easy access to a bunch of different ubuntu versions, not in any real application hosting sort of way
[01:32] <Guest5210> sarnold that's fine, i use multipass for ubuntu and lxd for every other distro. I was trying to figure out what is going on with my autocompletion.
[01:33] <Guest5210> as I use this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RWQYjTqThc/ and when I start a gnome-terminal I get _have command not found and as I said earlier i need to resource my .bashrc
[01:38] <sarnold> Guest5210: _have is defined in /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion
[01:39] <Guest5210> sarnold: I also have that default
[01:39] <Guest5210> which doesn't enable lxd autocomplete
[01:40] <sarnold> Guest5210: okay, how about an /etc/bash_completion that sources /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion?
[01:42] <Guest5210> here is my whole .bashrc, which only adds multipass and lxd for bash_completion (at the bottom where .bash_aliases gets sourced) https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gKCC6J2cxp/
[01:44] <Saxle> Is there a benefit to using a newer kernel from https://kernel.ubuntu.com ? I'm on 20.04 LTS HWE and want to try it.
[01:45] <Guest5210> Saxle they are mostly only recommended if you have issues with your kernel
[01:45] <sarnold> Guest5210: move lines 117 through 126 to line 108 and see how it goes
[01:45] <Saxle> Guest5210 Thanks.
[01:46] <leftyfb> Guest5210: /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/lxd.lxc -> /snap/snapd/current/usr/lib/snapd/complete.sh
[01:47] <Guest5210> sarnold: oO it's working now
[01:48] <Guest5210> leftyfb: what does /snap/snapd/current/usr/lib/snapd/complete.sh do? is it autocompletion for all snaps?
[01:49] <leftyfb> Guest5210: I assume so. Either way, I think that is what's required for it to work. Regardless, that's what I have on my 20.04 install by default and completion works for me without me having to write my own
[01:50] <sarnold> Guest5210: hmm I don't have a /snap/snapd/current/usr/lib/snapd/complete.sh ... what's in it?
[01:51] <Guest5210> leftyfb: hm, on my system the link is set, but still didn't work
[01:51] <leftyfb> sarnold: https://termbin.com/vtzh
[01:54] <leftyfb> sarnold: that's on a pretty simple 20.04 server which mainly just hosts containers
[01:54] <sarnold> thanks leftyfb
[01:55] <sarnold> cripes I've read it and I'm still not sure :)
[01:56] <sarnold> I think it scrapes the snap --help ... output for each command to figure out what options are available
[01:58] <leftyfb> I don't think so. I think it ends up translating the snap name(lxd) down to /snap/lxd/current/etc/bash_completion.d/snap.lxd.lxc
[01:58] <leftyfb> which is the actual bash completion file
[02:16] <Guest5210> where can I ~~rant~~ talk about enhancement of phased updates?
[02:17] <leftyfb> Guest5210: #ubuntu-offtopic maybe
[02:18] <Guest5210> leftyfb: i had the idea to give them an idea to improve on that idea, as the way the implemented it right now, can hinder new installs (while there is a phased update)
[02:19] <leftyfb> Guest5210: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/
[02:19] <Guest5210> thanks :)
[02:19] <sarnold> Guest5210: or perhaps even a bug report! :) installing things should work imho
[02:20] <Guest5210> yeah on my other pc, i had issues getting wine installed as mesa-vulkan-drivers had the new version, but mesa-vulkan-drivers:i386 had the old one :/
[02:22] <sarnold> I would have expected all the binaries from one source package to be phased identically
[02:22] <sarnold> I've seen variations on this for years and never figured out that phasing might be involved
[02:23] <Guest5210> sarnold this is what I figured, but seems like they didn't think about i386 packages (i mean it's already a bit of a backburner nowadays)
[02:25] <sarnold> and installing both i386 and amd64 packages at once isn't very common
[02:25] <sarnold> it's mostly if you've got steam games that haven't rebuilt yet..
[02:27] <Guest5210> I don't use steam, so no idea, I only noticed it because I was installing lutris, wine and my printer drivers (which are i386)
[02:31] <sarnold> aha
[02:35] <chown> Hello
[02:35] <chown> I am trying to update my repo manager but it is yelling at me about yarn not having a sighned GPG key
[02:35] <chown> How do I allow un verified repos to be installed?
[02:37] <Guest5210> chown easiest would be to get the gpg key to verify the repo+packages
[02:40] <sarnold> chown: I think replacing 'deb' with 'deb [trusted=yes]' in your sources will do the trick
[02:42] <chown> I tried that and that is giving me more errors
[02:43] <chown> Guest5210: How would I go about doing that?
[02:44] <Guest5210> chown about which version are we talking about?
[02:44] <chown> offf ubuntu?
[02:44] <chown> I am using ubuntu server 20.4
[02:44] <Guest5210> huh? okay wait, I thought you added the outdated official yarn repo
[02:45] <chown> https://docs.joinmastodon.org/admin/install/
[02:45] <chown> I am following this manual
[02:45] <chown> I am actually in the middle of trying to set up a mastodon instance
[02:46] <chown> So I installed whatever yarn file this one is pulling
[02:46] <Guest5210> ahh so it is yarn classic
[02:46] <sarnold> hah, they've got a command to curl | apt-key the key..
[02:46] <Guest5210> yup curl -sS https://dl.yarnpkg.com/debian/pubkey.gpg | sudo apt-key add -
[02:46] <chown> I did that t.t
[02:47] <sarnold> did you get any error messages from it?
[02:47] <chown> nu uh
[02:47] <chown> Hang on
[02:47] <chown> ok wtf
[02:47] <chown> I ran it again and it
[02:47] <chown> it's working now***
[02:47] <chown> -.-
[02:47] <sarnold> heh
[02:47] <chown> Sorry that was weird
[02:47] <sarnold> :)
[02:48] <Guest5210> ^^
[02:48] <chown> I mean, you think they would have me install it and then curl the keys
[02:48] <sarnold> curling the keys is how you know bits weren't flipped in transit
[02:50] <chown> well now I need python-certbot-nginx and it says there's no package for it
[02:51] <Guest5210> chown python3-certbot-nginx
[02:53] <chown> based thanks Guest5210
[02:53] <Guest5210> hm, is there a way to tell ubuntu dock to show on another display? as of right now, it's showing up on my non-primary display
[02:55] <Guest5210> my preferred monitor is already set to primary :/
[02:56] <GSMarquis> Does anyone know how to change window scroll bar widths in Ubuntu?
[02:58] <Guest5210> GSMarquis idk if this helps https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=286908
[03:06] <chown> Can you sudo with a user who doesn't have a password? o.o
[03:06] <chown> Do I need to edit the sudoers file?
[03:07] <soreau> chown: if you have root access, you can use `su - user`
[03:07] <chown> and then the command?
[03:08] <soreau> yes and then `exit` to get back to the root prompt
[03:08] <chown> ok
[03:09] <chown> ok, lol, now I am getting "unrecognized option --no-document"
[03:09] <chown> For gem
[03:09] <chown> gem install bundler --no-document is what it is telling me to install
[03:19] <GSMarquis> Thanks, I will check it out. I just cant seem to land my mouse on the bars.
[04:04] <phablet> bdzhshtšs
[04:18] <chown> w e w
[04:18] <chown> My user avccount is "not in the sudoers file"
[04:18] <chown> reeeee
[04:51] <chown> sfljgndf
[05:07] <Guest99> hi
[05:08] <Guest99> I have my 20gb partition root already full, may I erase swap partition and add to root partitio? I use Ubuntu 20.04
[05:57] <rowz> hi i just installed guest additions on xubuntu 20.4.2 but it didn't work, i tried reinstalling then i found it says system currently not set up to build kernal modules please install gcc make perl packages, how can i fix this?
[06:12] <ruga> ..
[06:19] <ducasse> rowz: try 'sudo apt install build-essential'
[06:19] <ducasse> Guest5210: how much ram do you have?
[07:03] <rowz> thanks
[08:10] <loganlee> guys you know how ubuntu's dock used to have icons get stacked towards the bottom? do you know how to enable that in ubuntu 20.4?
[08:14] <tomreyn> loganlee: i think this was a feature of the unity (launcher) feature (which you can still install). but maybe you'll find a gnome shell extension doing this as well.
[08:16] <tomreyn> searching for "stack" on https://extensions.gnome.org/ doesn't yield results, though
[08:32] <newhoa> Ubuntu package servers are very slow the last day. Is this happening for anyone else?
[08:33] <newhoa> To download package data it is estimating over an hour at 26Kb/s and failing to download many package lists.
[08:34] <jailbreak> newhoa, it's fine here. have you tried restarting your router?
[08:36] <newhoa> I can try that but speed tests put me at 30Mbps and everything else is playing/downloading fine.
[08:38] <newhoa> If I select a mirror in Software & Updates it works fine. It's just the Main server. Yesterday it downloaded the package lists fine but the actual downloads were crazy slow or failed.
[08:38] <sixwheeledbeast> yesterday it did seem to take longer than usual when I tried but seems temporary.
[08:39] <sixwheeledbeast> nothing failed or errored.
[08:39] <tomreyn> newhoa: what's the "main server"? they conveniently have hostnames assigned to them. ;-)
[08:39] <tomreyn> domain names even
[08:40] <newhoa> security.ubuntu.com, us.archive.ubuntu.com sorry, in Software & Updates it just says Main Server
[08:40] <tomreyn> ah, then i'm sorry, too, i wasn't aware it said that.
[08:41] <tomreyn> !mirrors
[08:41] <tomreyn> hmm not exactly what i was looking for
[08:42] <tomreyn> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors is a list of mirrors and their update states, click on them to see the update state for a specific ubuntu release
[08:43] <tomreyn> i guess a mirror in eastern or central U.S. would be best for you
[08:44] <newhoa> Thanks. The mirrors are working fine. I just didn't know if others were having a problem or if there was a place to check status of the official servers.
[08:44] <newhoa> Finally got the package list to update but if I try to update (Firefox for example) I get "404 Not Found"
[08:45] <tomreyn> hmm, this hints on a different issue, though. can you run   sudo apt update    and then pos tthe full output to    https://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:49] <tomreyn> newhoa: or, you could run all of this, which would gather some useful info and post it online, and just return a url for you to post here. but don't do it if you don't understand what it does (don't trust strangers on the internet handing out commands to you to run):
[08:50] <tomreyn> sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} 2>&1; sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog
[08:53] <newhoa> Will do (after the estimated 4 hours it's giving me lol, I'm sure it'll just abort on some lists here soon)
[08:58] <tomreyn> newhoa: you could meanwhile run this in a separate terminal, just to check how well you can reach one of the security.ubuntu.com servers:    ping -c3 security.ubuntu.com 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:58] <tomreyn> it should not noticibly impact the other transfer
[09:09] <newhoa> tomreyn here are termbins for security.ubuntu and us.archive.ubuntu
[09:09] <newhoa> https://termbin.com/u3iju and https://termbin.com/q37g4
[09:09] <arch_user> hi all.I have a question. How to dispaly [add] of the bottom of terminal color code?
[09:10] <tomreyn> newhoa: hmm those are looking fine
[09:11] <newhoa> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5sY8TqYP7v/
[09:12] <newhoa> I'm going to restart and see if that does anything. Then I'll try the full set of commands you asked.
[09:13] <tomreyn> newhoa: 91.189.91.38 just looks broken right now, i don't think it's you. just use a different mirror server.
[09:18] <tomreyn> newhoa: banjo (this server you were connecting to) had an archive update going. this was probably the cause (though it should not normally be the cause of such issues, it's a mirror server problem). but the server update is done for now, so it may be working well for you again.
[09:20] <newhoa> Cool. Is there a way I can check for stuff like that in the future (so I don't needlessly bother people lol)?
[09:22] <tomreyn> newhoa: if you *can* still access the server(s), you can load http://us.archive.ubuntu.com and see whether there is a file there saying that an upgrade is in progress.
[09:22] <tomreyn> (it should have a recent modification time, too)
[09:25] <newhoa> Ah okay. Sorry for any trouble. Hopefully it'll get back to normal soon. Thanks for the help!
[09:27] <tomreyn> you're welcome, newhoa. your best option is to just wiat some 5 or 10 minutes when it happens next time, or to temporarily switch to a different mirror server.
[12:13] <mint> hi
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> welcome mint
[12:16] <Mekaneck> probably in the wrong channel and on the wrong server mint?
[12:20] <mint> I am using chat application for the first time.. i use linux mint xfce. live cd
[12:20] <cbreak> and you want to switch to ubuntu? Good choice :D
[12:20] <Mekaneck> mint: impossible since Hexchat in Mint points to Spotchat #linuxmint-help
[12:21] <Mekaneck> by default
[12:25] <Mekaneck> mint: so if you seek support with Mint you'll have to switch to Spotchat and the channel i mentioned
[12:26] <Mekaneck> here is only Ubuntu support
[12:26] <kinosa> hi
[12:26] <Mekaneck> hi kinosa
[12:27] <kinosa> how are you?
[12:27] <Mekaneck> need support with Ubuntu kinosa?
[12:27] <Mekaneck> if not join #ubuntu-offtopic for casual talk
[12:28] <kinosa> ok
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:39] <coz_> BluesKaj, hey guy %)
[13:39] <BluesKaj> hi coz_
[13:39] <coz_> %)
[16:04] <FreeBDSM> hi, what's current linux version in ubuntu 20.04?
[16:04] <quadrat> FreeBDSM hwe or not?
[16:04] <quadrat> 5.4 for normal, hwe 5.8
[16:04] <quadrat> edge 5.11
[16:04] <FreeBDSM> quadrat: what's hwe?
[16:04] <quadrat> hardware enablement
[16:05] <quadrat> desktops use hwe per default
[16:05] <Mekaneck> FreeBDSM: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[16:05] <Mekaneck> google is your friend ;)
[16:07] <FreeBDSM> thanks, quadrat and Mekaneck
[16:07] <Mekaneck> yw :)
[16:07] <FreeBDSM> I hoped for >=5.10
[16:08] <quadrat> well if you install the edge kernel you can have >=5.11
[16:08] <quadrat> ah 5.10
[16:09] <FreeBDSM> quadrat: how's that? LTS version of OS but with edge version of kernel?
[16:10] <quadrat> eh, edge  (which is based on 20.10 in this cycle) is just the release which will be the next "normal" hwe stack, which gets released in fall this year.
[16:11] <quadrat> oops i meant 21.04
[16:11] <quadrat> the hwe stack we have right now is 20.10
[16:12] <FreeBDSM> 21.04 is not LTS
[16:13] <quadrat> FreeBDSM the hwe stack is based upon the interim releases, that's why I talk about other nonLTS releases.
[16:13] <quadrat> and they get backported to LTS releases
[16:13] <FreeBDSM> I don't get. So will 5.10 be backported to LTS 20.04?
[16:14] <quadrat> no 5.11 will get backported
[16:14] <quadrat> as 5.11 is being used in 21.04
[16:14] <FreeBDSM> oh, it's probably fine then
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: do you have a bug/feature that you need thats not in the current kernel versions?
[16:17] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: yeah, I'm thinking about buying a new device, but it's supported only was added to 5.10. I'm currently on 18.04 w/ 4.15. I'm trying to figure out how to plan the update properly. Given ubuntu doesn't really support major version updates the current dilemma is whether it's worth to wait for 22.04 LTS and switch to that version or to use 20.04 with those backports stuff
[16:17] <FreeBDSM> or even just install the necessary driver as a kernel module for now
[16:18] <quadrat> FreeBDSM wouldn't be using 21.04 also an option? or only LTS releases (if yes i guess you install edge, or wait till 20.04.3)
[16:18] <FreeBDSM> quadrat: definitely no
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> 'its'? wich chipset are we talking about specific?
[16:20] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.10-Nintendo-Switch
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> interesting FreeBDSM got a bug ID for that?
[16:24] <webchat36> Hello.  I need a bit of help connecting to the internet with KDE
[16:24] <FreeBDSM> https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+nintendo+switch+inurl%3Agithub.com%2Ftorvalds%2Flinux
[16:24] <webchat36> I installed Ubuntu Server as I need it for a program I need to run.  I then installed KDE as an environment.  It does not see my wired internet connection, so it won't download any packages
[16:25] <webchat36> it will allow me to chat here.
[16:25] <webchat36> I'
[16:25] <oerheks> webchat36, were you in #kubuntu before?
[16:25] <webchat36> earlier yes
[16:25] <oerheks> weird, no updates, and you can irc...
[16:25] <webchat36> No updates but I can irc.
[16:25] <webchat36> it says I have no network.
[16:25] <webchat36> I don't know how to manually configure the network
[16:25] <quadrat> webchat36 what happens if you try to download packages?
[16:25] <webchat36> although I figured out how to add a wired network
[16:26] <webchat36> it says no network can't download
[16:26] <oerheks> one better install Kubuntu solely.
[16:26] <Mekaneck> way too weird
[16:26] <Mekaneck> oerheks: already suggested to install kubuntu and then add a server
[16:26] <webchat36> I can't use Kubuntu.  I need root access to use Drupal.  You can't root access from Kubuntu
[16:26] <oerheks> Mekaneck, i do not believe it either..
[16:26] <webchat36> And I need a server version
[16:26] <webchat36> trust me...it's what it is doing
[16:27] <oerheks> sure you can be root, with sudo
[16:27] <oerheks> good luck!
[16:27] <Mekaneck> use server without gui
[16:27] <webchat36> No, I can't use Sudo
[16:27] <FreeBDSM> drupal with root access
[16:27] <webchat36> I could use without GUI.  But I wanted to be able to cut and paste command line commands.  That requires firefox or a graphical browser.  Can you install that in command line
[16:27] <webchat36> ?
[16:27] <FreeBDSM> loool
[16:27] <Mekaneck> search for "enable root access in kubuntu" webchat36
[16:27] <Gadget[m]> Server without a GUI is preferred. Les code running less resources needed.
[16:27] <FreeBDSM> that's a recipe for a catastrophe to happen
[16:27] <Mekaneck> topics enough to be found
[16:28] <webchat36> why catastrophe waiting to happen?
[16:28] <webchat36> I just want to write my web page in drupal
[16:28] <Gadget[m]> Use SSH client from another computer
[16:28] <FreeBDSM> because of the quality of drupal as a product
[16:28] <webchat36> How would I use SSH from another computer?
[16:28] <Gadget[m]> SCP can move files.
[16:28] <webchat36> I can use apt get
[16:29] <webchat36> I wanted to use synaptic package manager
[16:29] <Mekaneck> webchat36: also guides on the web to be found on how to SSH
[16:29] <webchat36> I don't know what SSH is
[16:29] <Mekaneck> look it up
[16:29] <webchat36> I used linux a lot but it was seven years ago
[16:29] <webchat36> So look up SSH
[16:30] <Mekaneck> sure, not much has changed on how to to basic stuff in those 7 years
[16:30] <Gadget[m]> SSH is very useful for doing what you want.
[16:30] <webchat36> Also if using drupal with root is a problem, why do all the instructions for installing require root
[16:30] <Gadget[m]> Root to install user to run
[16:30] <webchat36> I couldn't install drupal without root
[16:30] <webchat36> Ah, yes, I just needed an account of root that I could access
[16:31] <webchat36> to configure the server
[16:31] <webchat36> I've also got no wifi card in this computer so it needs to be a hotwire or ethernet connection
[16:31] <oerheks> 1st account created has sudo (=root) rights
[16:32] <webchat36> yes.  Sudo wouldn't work for some of the programs
[16:32] <webchat36> Basically I have the system I think will work.  If I can connect it to the internet
[16:32] <oerheks> one should be carefull with programs running as root.
[16:32] <webchat36> I'm just using this computer to write a web page.  Nothing private on it
[16:32] <oerheks> make sure you use an UBUNTU howto for drupal
[16:33] <webchat36> Yes, I found an ubuntu how to.  It doesn't explain how to connect your network card when the computer won't let you use it
[16:33] <Gadget[m]> That’s not a reason to run a service as root, that is very dangerous
[16:33] <webchat36> I just needed to be able to set a root password.  I did that, now I'm logged on as a user
[16:34] <Gadget[m]> Can you open terminal an do
[16:34] <Gadget[m]> ‘’’
[16:34] <Gadget[m]> ip addr
[16:34] <Gadget[m]> ‘’’
[16:34] <webchat36> I can open a terminal
[16:34] <Gadget[m]> * Can you open terminal an do
[16:34] <Gadget[m]> ip addr
[16:35] <oerheks> if the server does not allow networking, irc should not be possible too.
[16:35] <webchat36> well it is
[16:35] <Gadget[m]> True
[16:35] <Mekaneck> exactly
[16:35] <webchat36> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
[16:35] <webchat36>     link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
[16:35] <webchat36>     inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
[16:35] <webchat36>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
[16:35] <webchat36>     inet6 ::1/128 scope host
[16:35] <webchat36>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
[16:35] <webchat36> 2: eno1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state UP group default qlen 1000
[16:35] <webchat36>     link/ether 90:b1:1c:7d:2e:2e brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[16:35] <webchat36>     inet 10.0.0.138/24 brd 10.0.0.255 scope global dynamic eno1
[16:35] <webchat36>        valid_lft 171845sec preferred_lft 171845sec
[16:35] <webchat36>     inet6 2607:fea8:bcdd:3d00::f6f6/128 scope global dynamic noprefixroute
[16:35] <webchat36>        valid_lft 603842sec preferred_lft 603842sec
[16:35] <webchat36>     inet6 2607:fea8:bcdd:3d00:92b1:1cff:fe7d:2e2e/64 scope global dynamic mngtmpaddr noprefixroute
[16:35] <webchat36>        valid_lft 300sec preferred_lft 300sec
[16:35] <webchat36>     inet6 fe80::92b1:1cff:fe7d:2e2e/64 scope link
[16:35] <webchat36>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
[16:35] <coconut> !paste
[16:35] <Mekaneck> sigh
[16:36] <webchat36> Oh, sorry
[16:36] <Mekaneck> they never learn LOL
[16:36] <webchat36> It's been 7 years.  I'll use it next time
[16:36] <Mekaneck> use it now
[16:37] <webchat36> Ok. I used it
[16:37] <webchat36> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZqbPffHMGT/
[16:38] <webchat36> If someone could just help me get my internet "connected" I think I could take it from there
[16:38] <webchat36> Same thing happened when I tried to install Kubuntu on top of the Ubuntu server
[16:38] <Mekaneck> your internet is working since you're chatting
[16:38] <webchat36> Yes, but it says it isn't working and won't let the package manager work
[16:39] <oerheks> https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/network-configuration
[16:40] <Mekaneck> why don't you just do as i said, install kubuntu first THEN add a server for your needs
[16:40] <webchat36> I tried installing Kubuntu and then following Drupal instructions.  It didn't work
[16:40] <webchat36> It also wouldn't let me install synaptic.  I like synaptic.
[16:40] <webchat36> something about weyland being active
[16:41] <Mekaneck> wayland... switch to xorg instead then
[16:41] <webchat36> If I install Kubuntu and then I get stuck when I can't access the root command would you help then or tell me not to use the root command?
[16:42] <webchat36> All the instructions for Drupal come with installing a system the way I've installed it, except that I wanted a graphic interface.  So I installed one.  But it won't see the internet
[16:42] <webchat36> I looked at the connection suggestions posted.  I have no idea what all of that is about.
[16:42] <webchat36> I usually use DHCP when I install linux
[16:43] <Mekaneck> if i had a solution i'd provide it
[16:43] <alkisg> webchat36: the server version installs netplan, while you want to use the network-manager GUI. It's indeed simpler to start with kubuntu and then install drupal, than to remove all the server bits that you don't like
[16:43] <webchat36> So I
[16:44] <webchat36> I'll try Kubuntu and come back here if it tells me I can't install Drupal again.
[16:44] <alkisg> Right
[16:44] <webchat36> But how do I get synaptic on Drupal.  It wouldn't let me add that. and I want synaptic.
[16:44] <alkisg> Note the message and paste it here when it happens
[16:44] <webchat36> Kept on going about Wayland
[16:44] <alkisg> sudo apt install synaptic
[16:44] <webchat36> I was a mepis user.
[16:44] <alkisg> synaptic isn't related to drupal though
[16:44] <Mekaneck> you can't get synaptic on Drupal
[16:44] <webchat36> No, it's related to how I use linux
[16:44] <alkisg> It's a package manager, like discover
[16:45] <webchat36> So I can download other stuff I like, to get a working system
[16:45] <alkisg> Sure
[16:45] <webchat36> OK.  I'll try that.  Thank you.
[16:45] <alkisg> 👍️
[16:46] <webchat36> Thank you.  Hopefully this will solve the problem.
[16:48] <webchat36> Problem: there appears to be no program for writing an ISO. Back to the Windows computer
[16:49] <LadyCailin> dd
[16:49] <alkisg> webchat54: writing an iso to cd or stick?
[16:49] <alkisg> ...ok he left :)
[17:14] <SupremeKai> Hey guys, I have ubuntu 20.04 and when I do an ssh login with root I would like to have the default folder as / instead of /root/ - how can I do it? I already changed .bashrc with cd / but it doesn't work
[17:20] <oerheks> SupremeKai, which .bashrc ? the root one i hope ...
[17:20] <oerheks> = /root/.bashrc
[17:30] <leftyfb> SupremeKai: why on earth do you think you need to login as root?
[17:40] <SupremeKai> leftyfb, why not?
[17:40] <Gadget[m]> Eclairs it’s bad practice
[17:40] <Gadget[m]> * Because it’s bad practice
[17:41] <SupremeKai> I'm an anarchist
[17:41] <SupremeKai> lulz
[17:41] <leftyfb> SupremeKai: is this machine accessible via the internet?
[17:43] <SupremeKai> yup
[17:43] <SupremeKai> it's a vps
[17:44] <Gadget[m]> Logging in as root remotely directly is really bad.
[17:45] <oerheks> vps as root... interesting
[17:46] <SupremeKai> oerheks, nothing new, has been around for more than a decade :P
[17:46] <SupremeKai> Now really guys, leftyfb , Gadget[m] , oerheks - i know about the "good practices" n' stuff.... but who really follows them?
[17:46] <Gadget[m]> Do you at least force ssh keys?
[17:47] <cbreak> logging in as root isn't significantly different from logging in as non-root and then privilege escalating
[17:47] <cbreak> you end up as root either way
[17:47] <SupremeKai> Gadget[m], not really, I do not have the sys of a bank at this vps
[17:47] <SupremeKai> it's just a vps
[17:47] <leftyfb> lol
[17:47] <cbreak> but logging in via passwords? Bad practice, no matter the account name.
[17:47] <leftyfb> it's compromised and they don't even know it
[17:47] <leftyfb> some "anarchist"
[17:47] <SupremeKai> Gadget[m], do u know how to protect yourself as far as this SSH login is concerned? change the default ssh port from 22 to 84724
[17:48] <cbreak> password authentication should be disabled.
[17:48] <SupremeKai> no more bruteforce
[17:48] <leftyfb> lol
[17:48] <SupremeKai> no more fingerprinting at shodan.io and censys
[17:48] <leftyfb> security through obscurity
[17:48] <cbreak> changing ports is quite pointless, sooner or later the alternate port will be found
[17:48] <SupremeKai> change the default ssh port and that's it
[17:48] <SupremeKai> cbreak, and when it does, I change it to 69696969
[17:48] <cbreak> no, you won't
[17:48] <SupremeKai> *6969
[17:48] <cbreak> ports only go up to 65535
[17:49] <SupremeKai> ^
[17:49] <SupremeKai> i was *excited*
[17:49] <alkisg> "changing ports is quite pointless, sooner or later the alternate port will be found" > that's not true, some bots have only a few hardcoded ports, so you avoid these
[17:49] <SupremeKai> no pun intended (i guess=
[17:49] <Gadget[m]> SupremeKai:  my VPSs don’t have SSH exposed out side of the VPN I Run
[17:49] <SupremeKai> alkisg, i go with you
[17:49] <SupremeKai> those bots are dumb as fck
[17:50] <SupremeKai> i got some honeypots, these chinese guys are really gettin into the market
[17:50] <SupremeKai> to mine monero
[17:50] <SupremeKai> Gadget[m], how come?
[17:50] <oerheks> lets get back to ubuntu support, please
[17:51] <SupremeKai> ok, boss
[17:51] <SupremeKai> 8-)
[17:51] <SupremeKai> so, how can I change the default folder when I ssh in the server?
[17:52] <cbreak> sure. Change the home directory
[17:52] <SupremeKai> usermod?
[17:53] <SupremeKai> usermod -d / root?
[17:53] <SupremeKai> I may also have an option using .ssh config or so, or even .profile?
[17:55] <cbreak> if you disable passwords, which you totally should, maybe you can force something via a forced command via .authorized_keys
[18:08] <alkisg> Setting a different home isn't really a good idea ,that would mean that your ssh keys would be in /.ssh
[18:10] <SupremeKai> yup, I also think that alkisg
[18:37] <alkisg> SupremeKai: putting `cd /` at the end of ~/.bashrc works for me
[18:37] <alkisg> (for interactive sessions, of course)
[18:42] <Gadget[m]> 🤔 I am going to have to try this on a host. Would make it convenient.
[18:43] <webchat83> make --no-print-directory -C /root/svmp -f build/core/config.mk dumpvar-TARGET_DEVICE
[18:43] <webchat83> build/envsetup.sh: line 43: 30251 Segmentation fault      (core dumped) CALLED_FROM_SETUP=true BUILD_SYSTEM=build/core make --no-print-directory -C "$T" -f build/core/config.mk dumpvar-$1
[18:44] <webchat83> can help me to fix segmentation fault caused by make?
[18:45] <SupremeKai> alkisg, do I need to restart ssh? or reboot?
[18:45] <SupremeKai> or does the system updates the .bashrc?
[18:45] <SupremeKai> (something along those lines)
[18:45] <oerheks> restart ssh.service indeed
[18:50] <SupremeKai> oerheks, but it is a vps, that way I will get disconnected
[18:50] <oerheks> well, there is just one way to test if it works :-D
[18:50] <SupremeKai> fck it, i'm being too perfectionist lulz
[18:50] <oerheks> go anarchist !
[18:51] <SupremeKai> i'm the anarchy, thus fck .bashrc and the cd / :D
[18:51] <oerheks> hahaha have fun!
[18:51] <SupremeKai> I can edit the sftp address at the top bar anyway lulz
[18:51] <SupremeKai> this was st00pid, but thnks for the confirmation great sir alkisg
[18:57] <leftyfb> I hope I can be a antichris when I grow up. Then I can r00t all the puterz n B da l33tz with awl the lulz
[19:16] <SupremeKai> leftyfb, lulz get 'em like Phineas Fisher did
[21:25] <edlou> Did they fix ubuntu yet?
[21:25] <mybalzitch> fix what
[21:25] <cbreak> edlou: many years ago
[21:27] <pasiz> is ubuntu broken
[21:37] <geirha> bug #1 is still not fixed
[21:39] <cbreak> its fixed now
[21:39] <cbreak> android has the majority market share nowadays
[21:43] <geirha> not for desktops and laptops though
[21:49] <leftyfb> Chrome OS is at 17% market share. That's linux
[22:25] <Guest6210> is there a way to get the "widget" in the notification center back?
[22:40] <toddc> Guest6210: yes what os version and distro will help to find a answer
[23:00] <pepperoni> anyone know how to reset Settings->Displays. Each time I plug my second monitor in, the laptop display goes blank as well as the 2nd monitor
[23:07] <zEneeergy> Hi
[23:12] <pasiz> Hi
[23:49] <Guest6210> toddc sorry for the late response, i am on ubuntu 20.04