[00:30]  * guiverc just realizes the provided paste said focal (sorry I didn't open)
[00:44] <bsmith093> testing
[05:45] <WF> 1234
[20:28] <Esko> Hi
[20:29] <Esko> Anybody around with Lubuntu knowledge?
 you are in the lubuntu support chat.  just ask your question
[20:30] <teward> !ask
[20:32] <Esko> I have a problem with Lubuntu 20.10 to 21.04 upgrade. I still get that "Due to a bug in shim, LP: #1928434, upgrades are not currenly safe". (Macbook Air 1st gen). Is the upgrade possible?
[20:40] <Esko> I read the link, but did not quite get, if the bug  #1928434 shim bug is fixed for some but not for all? 
 if I'm reading the bug right... then this should technically be fixed in the main repositories now.  I cannot verify if this is fixed in the Lubuntu installer though, as I don't have a Mac so I can't test it.  Hirsute has the fix (21.04), and you're going 20.10 to 21.04 so in theory it should work.  But if you are still getting the issue, then it's likely the upgrader isn't pulling latest shim
 but i can't guarantee you that it'll work, macbook installs are a little outside the 'usual' of what I see
[20:55] <Esko> In my mac it refuses to upgrade, so it may be the upgrader. You are correct, that old macs are tricly. I had to to EFI 32 bit hack when installing 20.10. But a full Hirsute installer might be "more upgraded" and possibly better with the shim than the upgrader?  
[23:13] <espoir5909> salut