[12:19] <daftykins> happy Tuesday btw campers
[12:19] <daftykins> brb big changes afoot
[12:22] <zxm-pi> updating to freedos!! \o/
[12:31] <m0nkey_> not happy tuesday, been up most of the night. had to take the cat to the vet. he got a UTI so now needs meds and has to wear the 'cone of shame'
[12:34] <zxm-pi> so now his meows are amplified at 3am :-P
[12:34] <zxm-pi> hope the poor kitty makes a quick recovery
[12:36] <m0nkey_> thankfully caught the infection early, so there was no blockage or crystals
[12:36] <m0nkey_> he should recover okay.. gotta watch his litter box to make sure he's urinating 
[12:38] <m0nkey_> he actually already seems better this morning
[13:01] <daftykins> d'aww
[13:43] <bigcalm> 'sup kids?
[13:44] <daftykins> oy failure booting pfSense on a serial console AMD APU4 unit today
[13:59] <m0nkey_> daftykins: I've often had trouble getting pfsense booting on a APU2, but opnsense works out of the box.
[14:00] <daftykins> seems to be a flash drive brand bug
[14:01] <m0nkey_> mine only boots half the time from usb, regardless of usb drive
[14:01] <daftykins> now trying a third drive xD
[14:01] <m0nkey_> i think it's a freebsd thing
[14:01] <m0nkey_> because debian on the same stick boots no problem
[14:02] <daftykins> was kinda funny because i took my own router out, popped this one in place and discovered it wouldn't boot - so a lazy power off must have corrupted it last night
[14:02] <m0nkey_> i got one of them mikrotik's now.. i often forget that it's there
[14:03] <daftykins> i really regret touching theirs after some major trouble at a friend's wife's art gallery
[14:04] <daftykins> way too hobbyist for my liking
[14:04] <m0nkey_> mikrotik?
[14:04] <daftykins> yep
[14:04] <m0nkey_> it's more aimed at WISPs
[14:04] <m0nkey_> but they're branching out into the home and business
[14:05] <daftykins> they seem to have a lot of large scale switching kit so i'm not 100% on that one
[14:05] <m0nkey_> i got the hAP^3 and it's been no trouble
[14:06] <daftykins> it might be an isolated incident, i have so much going on these days so when that one started playing up i didn't want to start digging into rebuilding it from scratch, but it was my only choice at one point :(
[14:07] <m0nkey_> mikrotik have hell of a learning curve
[14:07] <daftykins> it was great for the handful of months it lasted for, but weirdly it was causing their basic ADSL2 to work at under half its' speed for no apparent reason
[14:07] <m0nkey_> hmm, i have no experience with dsl and mikrotik.
[14:07] <daftykins> yeah, don't have time to pick into something new now
[14:07] <daftykins> it was an attempt at saving people money xD failed miserably
[14:08] <m0nkey_> i picked one up out of curiosity, one of them $60 hEX routers, to play with and keep it as a backup
[14:09] <m0nkey_> but then i liked it and got the more powerful hAP^3
[14:09] <m0nkey_> but i'm in a home environment so can afford downtime
[14:10] <m0nkey_> i'll probably go back to pf or opnsense again at some point. i'm always changing my shit around :)
[14:12] <daftykins> the only issue i've encountered with the APUs with pfSense is that BSD's PPPoE implementation can only operate single-threaded and single-queue, which means that on my pal in Exeter's 500Mb down FTTP, the little guy doesn't have enough beans to reach that throughput
[14:12] <daftykins> seems they don't give a hoot about resolving that, so it essentially makes them useless for people that have fast connections using PPPoE
[14:15] <m0nkey_> What about openwrt on the apu?
[14:16] <m0nkey_> also, somebody found a workaround in opnsense.. https://www.reddit.com/r/OPNsenseFirewall/comments/nh0a02/performancespeed_issues/gz16xjb/
[14:16] <daftykins> supposed to be fine, but it's a fully working setup over in England so it's a bit late to change just to get a few megabits
[14:16] <m0nkey_> in theory, the tuneables for opnsense should be the same on pfsense.. they're both freebsd
[14:17] <daftykins> yeah i'm already using those to get a slight boost
[14:17] <m0nkey_> cool
[14:18] <daftykins> ok let's see if an old Corsair flash drive will play ball
[14:22] <daftykins> hrmm, even worse
[14:27] <bigcalm> Since listening to 2.5 Admins, I've realised that ZFS is the way to go for server sanity. That said, I have no experience of it. Wondering how to migrate my existing server set-up over to it. Any sensible recommendations for learning how to use ZFS?
[14:29] <daftykins> muck about with a VM with a few virtual disks as member drives
[14:33] <daftykins> wow booted at last
[14:41] <daftykins> install went well, but that won't boot either
[15:40] <bigcalm> What's a good VNC client that works on KDE? KRDC is going weird on my 150% scale displays
[15:41] <daftykins> maybe digging into the solution for that would be a better approach, as i find it very workable myself
[15:41] <daftykins> i don't do any display scaling though
[15:42] <bigcalm> VirtualBox has similar issues on my scaled display as well
[15:42] <m0nkey_> daftykins: error 19 when booting?
[15:43] <daftykins> things have advanced a bit now, suggesting the mSATA SSD is wobbly
[15:46] <daftykins> mSATA SSDs seem to be increasingly rare, so i wonder if they've begun having to scrape the bottom of the barrel to get them
[15:51] <bigcalm> I've resorted to using my laptop which doesn't do fractional scaling
[15:52] <m0nkey_> daftykins: the mSATA SSDs that PCEngines supply are super slow. A class 10 SD card would probably be faster
[15:54] <daftykins> i didn't buy from them, also SD card was taken off the pfSense options a few releases ago
[15:58] <bigcalm> Is it possible to pass ones' SSH agent through VNC? My expectations are low
[16:21] <bigcalm> I give up trying to run docker on MacOS
[16:21]  * bigcalm sticks to lovely Linux
[16:53] <daftykins> m0nkey_: wasn't BSD kinda your thing? :D
[16:59] <daftykins> this thing seems to fail spectacularly, attempt to partition the drive and console messages spam "cylinder checksum failed"
[17:00] <zxm-pi> a rabbit of negative euphoria: not a happy bunny
[17:02] <daftykins> indeedy!
[17:13] <daftykins> i think i'm at my limit on that one, linitx said to drop them an email showing the errors, so i can just see what their opinion is on that one and possibly just get an SSD swap if need be
[17:13] <m0nkey_> daftykins: yes, BSD is my thing
[17:14] <daftykins> m0nkey_: check this one out - https://i.imgur.com/CC40rPS.png
[17:14] <m0nkey_> hmm, thats a corrupt UFS volume
[17:15] <daftykins> what i don't get is that that occurs even if i dd zero the start of the drive prior to install
[17:16] <daftykins> strangely, installing with ZFS gives no such error but then stalls at the spinner on boot
[17:16] <m0nkey_> using GPT or MBR?
[17:16] <daftykins> GPT
[17:17] <m0nkey_> and what image did you use for the installer?
[17:17] <daftykins> amd64 serial console 
[17:17] <daftykins> 'USB memstick'
[17:19] <daftykins> hrmm i found the older release on a dodgy mirror, might give it a go
[17:19] <daftykins> doubt it's that to blame, just want to sanity check things
[17:21] <m0nkey_> this was a bug in 2018, but was fixed by Kirk.
[17:22] <m0nkey_> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=225110
[17:22] <lubotu> bugs.freebsd.org bug 225110 in Base System "UFS 'cylinder checksum failed' messages after crash, with SU+J enabled" [Affects Only Me, Closed: Fixed]
[17:23] <daftykins> saw reference to that but these releases are more recent, so very odd
[17:27] <daftykins> this seems promising so far
[21:18] <daftykins> https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2005/may/01/hamburg-toads-are-exploding/
[21:18] <daftykins> it ain't easy being green
[21:25] <zxm-pi> is that the one were it turned out crows were eating their livers while they were still alive?
[21:25] <zxm-pi> https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna7654561
[21:28] <daftykins> man, you know i have a terrible habit of not even reading the date on things
[21:33] <zxm-pi> well... it is a blursday :-P
[21:36] <daftykins> ooh yes