[02:13] <callmepk> good morning
[02:37] <duflu> Hi callmepk 
[02:37] <callmepk> hi duflu
[06:43] <didrocks> good morning
[06:52] <callmepk> hi didrocks 
[06:57] <didrocks> hey callmepk 
[07:06] <duflu> Morning didrocks 
[07:08] <didrocks> hey duflu 
[07:14] <ricotz> good morning desktopers :)
[07:15] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[07:15] <seb128> hey ricotz, how are you?
[07:16] <ricotz> seb128, hey, all good, and you?
[07:16] <seb128> I'm alright, weather is novembre like though which is a bit depressing
[07:16] <callmepk> hi ricotz seb128 
[07:17] <ricotz> seb128, oh, it is changing rapidly here, 30°C yesterday followed by rain and thunder ;)
[07:17] <ricotz> callmepk, hey
[07:19] <seb128> hey callmepk 
[07:20] <duflu> Hi ricotz and seb128 
[07:21] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you?
[07:22] <duflu> seb128, going OK. My final Nvidia optimization landed in mutter 41 yesterday so that's progress. How are you?
[07:22] <seb128> duflu, great!
[07:22] <seb128> I'm alright thanks
[07:34] <ricotz> seb128, do thing syncing pango1.0 from experimental is ok, it would provide a chance of fixing gtk4 and all what comes with it?
[07:34] <ricotz> this is blocking a lot of things :(
[07:37]  * duflu is reminded to check on an old pango fix
[07:38] <seb128> ricotz, oh yes, Trevinho  mentioned that he believe the test would stop failing with the new pango, let's see if that's true
[07:39] <ricotz> I don't what to upload a new libreoffice to possibly delay this further ;)
[07:41] <didrocks> salut ricotz, seb128 
[07:42] <seb128> lut didrocks, t'es pas en jour férié ?
[07:42] <seb128> ricotz, pango synced
[07:42] <didrocks> seb128: je te retourne la question :p
[07:42] <didrocks> je le swapperais avec deux demi journée semaine prochaine, suivant le temps
[07:43] <seb128> didrocks, pareil :)
[07:43] <didrocks> seb128: unsure you saw my ping yesterday about status request on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-desktop-portal/+bug/1935668 by the foundation team…
[07:45] <ricotz> didrocks, hey
[07:45] <ricotz> seb128, great, thanks
[07:46] <seb128> didrocks, I saw, we had our desktop-foundations catchup around the time you pinged and we discussed it there
[07:47] <seb128> jamesh, hey! do you think you would have the free cycles to work on porting xdg-desktop-portal  to libfuse3? 
[07:48] <didrocks> seb128: ack, do you mind dropping the result of it on the bug report so that it’s clear for the rest of the MIR team and I don’t have to justify it at random foundation team member dropping the request at the last minute and requesting a status?
[07:49] <jamesh> seb128: sure. I can have a look.
[07:50] <seb128> jamesh, thanks, I'm going to assign you the bug if it's fine with you then
[07:50] <jamesh> okay
[07:50] <didrocks> thanks you both :)
[07:50] <seb128> didrocks, commented, sorry that you are getting in ping line for such questions
[07:51] <didrocks> seb128: not your fault :)
[07:51] <didrocks> (and there is difference to me between a ping and a passive-aggressive "what the desktop team plan?" on something which was never raised before and transition just starting)
[07:53] <seb128> Trevinho, ricotz, you guys tricked me syncing a pango that fail tests on i386 (it does it debian as well according to https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=pango1.0&suite=experimental)
[07:53] <ricotz> oh no :(
[07:53] <seb128> well, hopefully it built on armhf and unblock gtk4
[07:54] <seb128> builds and unblocks*
[07:56] <seb128> ah, Marco reported it upstream, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pango/-/issues/580
[08:00] <didrocks> seb128: hum, I don’t get why https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg still mention it recommends fonts-cantarell as -examples is not promoted… Any idea?
[08:00] <didrocks> (I checked both -proposed and release)
[08:01] <didrocks> and it doesn’t show in in c-m
[08:02] <laney> yo
[08:02] <didrocks> hey laney 
[08:10] <ricotz> fwupd-signed needs an update to unblock fwupd
[08:15] <laney> moin didrocks 
[08:15] <laney> ricotz: you should talk to the person who upoloaded fwupd
[08:16] <seb128> hey laney, how are you?
[08:16] <laney> hey seb128 
[08:17] <laney> yeah alright, having fun with python-apt already
[08:17] <laney> and there's some blue sky today
[08:17] <laney> how's it going there?
[08:17] <seb128> blue sky? what's that?
[08:18] <ricotz> laney, that would be do_ko ;)
[08:18] <ricotz> laney, moin
[08:18] <seb128> it's a nice day for november though, grey as you could expect but not cold
[08:19] <laney> heh
[08:19] <laney> ricotz: there's a person who it was sponsored for, you can try them first :-)
[08:29] <duflu> Hi laney 
[08:34] <seb128> ricotz, let me fix it, going to be easier than having to ping someone who needs a sponsor then
[08:43] <ricotz> seb128, thank you!
[08:43] <seb128> ricotz, np!
[08:44] <seb128> didrocks, re fonts-cantarell, the html report has
[08:44] <seb128> Binary only movements to main (desktop-packages)
[08:44] <seb128> gtk-4-examples libgtk-4-doc	gtk4
[08:44] <seb128> [Reverse-Depends: Rescued from gtk4]
[08:45] <seb128> didrocks, unsure if that's what leads to still have it on the svg
[08:47] <didrocks> seb128: ah right, I always forget the html report, I think this is the default seed rules for trying to get all -doc and -examples for a given source
[08:48] <didrocks> what do you prefer? promoting the fonts, excluding those specific package in the seed?
[08:50] <seb128> didrocks, hum, I don't have a strong preference there, I'm unsure that recommends from the example on a specific font is really needed?
[08:50] <seb128> it was added in https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gtk4/-/commit/093b0b11
[08:52] <didrocks> yeah, the commit message doesn’t really help. I don’t have a strong preference either. Can we get the debian package || on another font for us?
[08:53] <didrocks> otherwise, excluding the -examples from the seed WFM
[08:53] <seb128> would a || make component mismatch happy though?
[08:54] <seb128> or is it going to be one of those cases were the first alternative is in universe so it picks it up was wrong even if there is another option next
[08:54] <seb128> excluding from the seed sounds the easiest?
[08:54] <seb128> Trevinho, ricotz, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk4/4.3.1-1/+build/21776889 , pango fixed the gtk4 armhf build indeed
[08:56] <seb128> and Depends libpango-1.0-0 (>= 1.47.0)
[08:56] <seb128> so it should unblock gtk4 without having to sort out the pango/i386 issue first
[08:57] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, I don’t know, but we keep having a growing list of issues due to c-m and no-one has time to fix it
[08:57] <didrocks> so excluding from the seed sounds good to me
[08:58] <seb128> 👍
[10:09] <seb128> Trevinho, there is a bunch of shell extensions listed as broken by the update, should we demote those to proposed temporarly at least?
[11:56] <Wimpy> Hello desktoppers o/
[11:56] <Wimpy> How goes it?
[11:57] <seb128> Wimpy, hey, enjoy winter! how are you?
[11:57] <seb128> enjoying
[11:58] <Wimpy> Winter?
[11:59] <seb128> Wimpy, we just have grey & wind & cold weather, feels like winter here. But otherwise I'm doing well :)
[11:59] <Wimpy> I'm well. Starting to do some of those things we used to do, like go outside.
[11:59] <seb128> \o/
[11:59] <Wimpy> Eat in restaurants even! :-)
[11:59] <seb128> I went back to play tennis, feeling nice
[11:59] <seb128> nice
[12:00] <Wimpy> Yeah, much needed semi-return to normality.
[12:00] <Wimpy> Finally got around to learning Godot too.
[12:01] <seb128> nice
[12:01] <Wimpy> Entered a game jam to put Godot to use and actually make something.
[12:02] <Wimpy> Godot is simply wonderful. I really like it.
[12:16] <didrocks> hey hey Wimpy!
[12:43] <Wimpy> o/
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[14:48] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
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[19:45] <GunnarHj> Hi Trevinho! I'd like to merge this:
[19:45] <GunnarHj> https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-control-center/-/merge_requests/21
[19:45] <GunnarHj> but would prefer to convince you first — at least so you don't object too much .. :)
[19:47] <Trevinho> GunnarHj: well, I basically just wanted to replicate the upstream design instead of following ours. IMHO isn't that weird that if you switch language also the region can adapt (as you can set it again to what it was later), but it's not something I care particularly.
[19:48] <Trevinho> GunnarHj: I care more, though, about handling the NULL pointer there in case
[19:48] <Trevinho> so if you merge that, please don't do just a revert but also handle nicely that case
[20:03] <GunnarHj> Trevinho: It would be inconsistent with how we do it in several other places, so yes I insist. As regards that NULL pointer, AFAICT it doesn't really hurt, even if it triggers some code to run unnecessarily. To avoid the latter we could simply drop that line. Or do you see something which I'm missing?
[20:10] <Trevinho> GunnarHj: mh, it could be enough yeah, I don't remember all the logic now :)
[20:11] <Trevinho> GunnarHj: would be nice to avoid those warnings, though, at least early returnning in the function that does the dbus call
[20:12] <GunnarHj> Trevinho: Ok, I'll do something about it.
[20:42] <Trevinho> seb128: oh, I missed your ping about the shell extensions.... Given we were saying to remove them from the archive, wouldn't be now the time?
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