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goddardwhats a lighter vnc client maybe terminal based?00:21
goddardi noticed VNC eats up a lot of resources00:21
sarnold'terminal based vnc'??00:21
sarnoldI thought the whole point of vnc is that it's a graphical thing00:21
sarnoldotherwise you'd just use ssh or mosh00:22
goddardsarnold: well something I can optimize to my liking00:22
goddardremmina is slow and has very little optimization options00:22
goddardlike how can i toggle between maybe GPU accelerated versus CPU00:22
goddardopengl or something00:23
goddardsome hardware does a much better job of processing images that change rapidly00:23
CodeMouse92goddard: Have you already looked at the RDP Quality settings on Remmina?00:23
goddardits VNC00:23
goddardyea00:23
goddardchanged it and no effect00:23
goddardit bogs to my system when running certain CUDA tasks and makes it unusable00:24
goddardi have had this problem with other apps as well that do CPU acceleration rather than GPU00:24
CodeMouse92goddard: After you change it there, you need to apply the settings to a particular connection from its own Edit option, and Advanced -> Quality00:24
CodeMouse92(That confused me for a while at first)00:25
CodeMouse92And then, ofc, disconnect/reconnect00:25
CodeMouse92Beyond that, I think things like VNC are *usually* heavy?00:25
CodeMouse92VNC is always slower than RDP for one thing, because it's pixel-based. It's an image stream00:27
CodeMouse92(And yes, those settings I mention will not apply to VNC, if you are indeed using VNC instead of RDP)00:28
goddardno kidding00:30
goddardlooks like RDP is more developed00:31
goddardisn't RDP a windows technology00:31
CodeMouse92*shrug* yes, but it works00:33
CodeMouse92FreeRDP is a free implementation00:33
CodeMouse92Looks like this is an open source FreeRDP server for Linux: https://github.com/neutrinolabs/xrdp00:35
goddardyeah thats what i just installed00:35
CodeMouse92cool, gl00:35
goddardit connects it looks like and then the window just closes00:35
goddardprobably some config is wrong or gotta restart the service or something?00:35
CodeMouse92Probably. I know RDP does not like someone being logged in on the system when it's also hosting00:36
CodeMouse92But you'll have to check the docs, I have not used xrdp before00:36
CodeMouse92On Windows, RDP will actually log out the current user automatically before allowing a login over RDP00:37
CodeMouse92And logged in on the local machine will kill the RDP connection00:37
CodeMouse92*logging00:37
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goddardahh01:28
goddardalso notice x2go and freenx01:28
goddardare those terrible01:29
goddardtried steam streaming01:29
goddardmight work but its hard to get it to allow you to see your desktop01:29
quadratis there a way to set a default network on virt-manager? as it seems every time i create a new vm, it sets it the multipass bridge03:26
yLEHi03:33
matsamanhi yle03:40
yLEquit03:42
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michagogoCodeMouse92: minor correction: it doesn’t log the user out, it disconnects their session (equivalent to, say, “switch user”)05:43
michagogoThe model is that it’s not remote control, it’s remote login05:43
alkisgCodeMouse92: this is an artificial limit that only applies to "pro" windows versions. It doesn't apply to Linux server versions or to Linux05:50
alkisg*to Windows server versions to to Linux05:50
ice9how to install python pip2 on ubuntu 21.04?07:47
jlucHello07:57
Alabalisticice9:07:57
AlabalisticI run kubuntu 21.04 and pip is installed, it's just pip not pip207:57
jluci want to calibrate my screen color rendering07:58
jlucso i bought a Xrite i1display Studio color probe07:58
jlucbut i cant find a way to use it : ubuntu 20.10 calibration tool hangs07:58
jlucand DisplayCal.net software is not available for recent ubuntu07:58
jlucHow can i calibrate my screen ?07:58
jlucYour experience is highly wellcomed07:59
andrewshow do I install haskell on ubuntu08:01
tomreynandrews: by installing suitable packages, which you could identify using    apt search --names-only ^haskell08:03
gebbionehi guys, i am always getting problems with the window manager when i run a search. As soon as i type two characters it does something and locks/blocks the application. It become unresponsive. Ubuntu 18 lts09:12
gebbioneany suggestions, ideally i would like to search with a UX app09:12
Guest93yo09:28
lotuspsychjewelcome Guest9309:28
Guest93hi, i would just like to ask how good is ubuntu for modern hardware these days09:29
Guest93better than other distros?09:29
lotuspsychjecome to #ubuntu-discuss if you like Guest9309:29
gebbionelotuspsychje, why a separate channel?10:32
lotuspsychjegebbione: discussions about distro compare/performance doesnt really fit in ubuntu support10:33
weedmicgebbione: avoids heated arguments10:37
gebbionewhat was the hate in my statement?10:38
weedmicnot you, the "reason" why it should be the chat channel.10:39
gebbioneok i was wondering if i was in the right channel as i received no suggestions to my problem, thanks for clarifying the difference10:40
rapid16How do I fix a machine that is missing 'sudo' ?12:34
jluci found displaycal flatpak and could install and run it12:35
jlucthere still is an issue since it cannot install the profile12:36
jlucissue with LUT and argyll and rights - have to investigate12:36
donofriorapid16, missing sudo?12:40
rapid16Yeah..it said sudo is not found12:41
rapid16I didn't know that would be possible12:41
donofriohumm, perhaps login as root and apt-get install sudo -y12:42
rapid16Hmm. That would be difficult...Docker container12:42
donofrioit is a package apt-cache search show it exists12:42
donofriowhere did you get container?12:42
jlucDispwin error says "We don't have access to the VideoLUT for clearing"12:43
rapid16Digital Ocean's NGINX web server12:43
rapid16From docker hub I think12:43
donofriotalk with DO i would think?12:44
jlucforum sayz """there is no working color management in Wayland. If you want color management, use X11."12:44
jlucI had to switch to wayland due to an issue with geany freezes on x11...12:44
rapid16Okay. I'll just get an nginx container, plain12:44
donofrioyah12:44
jlucno color management in wayland o0 ???12:44
donofriogood luck12:44
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BluesKajHi all13:08
* pene slaps danlinux around a bit with a large coregonus autumnalis13:09
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penehid3:13:21
Guest45Hey there. I'm back. I've been trying to recover a corrupted hard drive. My last steps were "sudo losetup -f -P --show path/to/file.img" and "fsck -N -V /dev/loopX"13:25
Guest45So after fsck finished doing its thing. What's next? How do I explore my data? Do I have to mount file.img or /dev/loopX?13:26
Guest45I don't have nearly as much GiB free on my computer to mount the entire file.img. Is there a work around or do I even need all of that space in the first place?13:26
Guest45df -h /mnt returns 23G avail, however, file.img is a sparse file 184G (466G total)13:29
leftyfbGuest45: you don't need additional space to mount an .img file. Regardless, you need to mount the /dev/loopx's, not the img13:35
do5rswleftyfb: can't yoo du mount -o loop or something similar too?13:36
leftyfbdo5rsw: I don't see how that's relevant here13:37
Guest45leftyfb How come I don't need additional space? This is puzzling13:37
Guest45leftyfb Once I mount the /dev/loopX, would I be able to navigate the file system just like the rest of file system (that is with cd, ls, etc)?13:38
leftyfbGuest45: because the space lives in the .img, you're not taking up more space by mounting it13:38
leftyfbGuest45: you don't need 16G of space on your machine every time you mount a 16G flash drive13:38
leftyfbGuest45: yes13:38
Guest45Wow, that makes sense LOL13:38
Guest45I'm such an idiot hahah13:38
do5rswmount -o loop <imagefile> is probably the easiest way to mount an image using /dev/loopx I guess13:39
Guest45leftyfb Is there a way I should go about mounting /dev/loopX? Taking into account that this file.img was generated by gddrescue from a corrupted hard drive and then ran fsck to try and fix it13:40
yatesi'm running remmina to connect to my lubuntu 18.04 LTS system remotely. the remote's .xsession file uses lxsession.13:40
yatesbut i don't get my shortcut keys - any way to get those to work in the remmina session?13:40
Guest45do5rsw but my image is already 'mounted' as a /dev/loopX. Wouldn't that re mount it?13:40
leftyfbdo5rsw: the .img is not a filesystem, it's an image of a drive with partitions. The whole purpose of losetup is to discover and create mount points to the individual partitions (/dev/loopx)13:40
Guest45IIUC, I need to13:40
Guest45Oops. I didn't mean to send that. IIUC, I need to run "sudo losetup -f -P --show path/to/file.img" first and then mount /dev/loopX13:41
do5rswhm afaik /dev/loopx is no mountpoint but a device node13:41
do5rswso you maybe just need to mount that device(s)13:42
leftyfbGuest45: yes, you're on the right track. Ignore loop mounting, it's not relevant in this case13:42
leftyfbdo5rsw: I don't see why you're trying to suggest using tools and methods to solve a problem that isn't being presented here13:42
do5rswsp I'd try to mount /dev/loopX /mountpoint13:42
leftyfbyes, we all know that13:42
Guest45Except me, maybe13:44
leftyfbGuest45: you already understood you needed to mount one of the /dev/loopx's13:44
Guest45So, should my mount command look like this 'mount /dev/loopX -o loop /mnt/recovery'?13:44
leftyfbGuest45: no, do not use loop13:44
do5rswjust 'mount /dev/loopX /mnt/recorvery'13:45
leftyfbcorrect13:45
leftyfbGuest45: loop is only used when there is no loop devices found/created for a file you're trying to mount. In this case, we used losetup to do that for us13:46
do5rswcorrect13:47
leftyfbdo5rsw's original suggestion was to use loop on the .img file, but that won't work when the file is multiple partitions needing multiple loop devices13:47
do5rswindeed13:47
do5rswthis works fine with iso images and other "one-partition" images13:48
do5rswbut not in your case13:48
Guest45I see. I'm still trying to understand what loop means in this case but to be completely honest, I'm also trying to recover my data, so I have a little list of concepts I should read on about if I don't understand it right away13:50
Guest45do5rsw what would be an example of such image? Clearly not this case since it is a ext4 partitioned image, right?13:50
TJ-Guest45: loop is short for loopdev. "sudo losetup --find --show --partscan path/to/file" will report the loopdev created for this. Any partitions will also be mapped so you can then do things like "mount /dev/loopXp2 /mnt/fs"13:52
leftyfbGuest45: an iso or a .img file created from a single partition or directory, not an entire drive with multiple partitions. -o loop does the job that losetup did by automatically creating a /dev/loopx device for you if you've only got 1 filesystem to mount13:52
TJ-Guest45: you can determine the partition(s) with "grep 'loopX$' /proc/partitions" (where X is the loopdev number and $ is a literal $ (meaning end-of-line in regular expression)13:53
do5rswhowever losetup seems not to throw any error if it cannot detect partitions. At least it did so on my linux laptop when I tried losetup on a raspian image13:57
do5rswit thus did create and show me a loop device for it but it is not mountable13:57
do5rswmaye that struck you too?13:57
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do5rswGuest45 hm probably floppy images for examle?13:59
TJ-do5rsw: partitions are optional extras :)14:32
TJ-do5rsw: just checked; the 'lite' .img has 2 partitions shown. I did notice my earlier command was wrong though, should have been "grep loopX /proc/partitions"14:45
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MalteraateHi there, I'm fiddling a bit with the hardware. I have a Asus laptop (AMD CPU) FX505DV, and I'd like to be able to change the fan speed manually (even under no load, there's a spinning). There are some tutorials available but none that I saw apply to me, either using asus-fan-control or using lm-sensors and fancontrol. I therefore tried to play15:44
Malteraatemyself and discovered the "/sys/devices/platform/asus-nb-wmi/hwmon/hwmon5/pwm1_enable". However, I can't change the content of this file, even in sudo. Someone knows about this and could walk me through? Thank you.15:44
oerheksi would not fiddle with fanspeed, that should be in control of your BIOS, but if you do, be carefull; some guide https://itectec.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-how-to-control-fan-speed/15:48
Malteraateoerheks: Thanks. I agree with you, though the BIOS doesn't leave me any choice in the fan configuration. I tried the link you suggest and can't have pwmconfig to work. I get the following output: ' /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed'. I saw some people suggesting to enforce lax in GRUB to alleviate this issue, I15:55
Malteraatetried without any success for me. That is why I started to explore by myself the "/sys/devices/platform/asus-nb-wmi/hwmon/hwmon5/pwm1_enable" to see if I could set fan speeds by hand (just to see). Infortunately, while I can read actual fan speed in the file "/sys/devices/platform/asus-nb-wmi/hwmon/hwmon5/fan1_input" (I can see that currently the15:55
Malteraatefan is at 2400 RPM), I can't set it with "echo 3000 > sudo tee /sys/devices/platform/asus-nb-wmi/hwmon/hwmon5/fan1_input" (stays still at 2400). root root is the owner of the file but permissions are r-- r-- ---.15:55
oerheksi feel free not to help damaging your hardware :-D15:58
oerheksgood luck!15:58
MalteraateOk :). Thanks anyway15:59
tomreynMalteraate: make sure you have the latest bios, this can help improve your management options, or improve the default fan speeds. install lm-sensors and run sensors-detect to ensure all sensors are properly detected.15:59
Malteraatetomreyn: thank you for your reply. Indeed, I updated my BIOS to the latest version. lm-sensors runs well and the fan is correctly detected (https://pastebin.com/ntJkdn90)16:02
tomreyndisabling nvidia graphics may improve thermals16:02
MalteraateWell, turns out the fan from the graphic card doesn't run at all (from nvidia-smi, I can see that the fan is disabled. also myself, I can hear when it starts, it's on the other side of the laptop). I can therefore safely say that I want to modify the behavior of the CPU fan only.16:04
tomreynalso removing extra hdd's, if any, or replacing a hdd / full size ssd by an m2 may help with thermals16:05
tomreynthose series had overheating problems in the past https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ASUS-TUF-Ryzen-Thermal-Fix16:08
tomreyn(which may be why the fans are now always on/always audible)16:09
MalteraateThanks for the tips. I have the Karnel 5.8 and I do have the thermal_policy_throttle able, such as the fanboost_mode as well. However even with those set to silent I have still have the CPU Fan 100% of the time. On windows, this doesn't happen and when I do light work, fans are all off. Which makes me think that there's something tweakable here.16:16
tomreynThe ASUS thermal policy can be configured now via /sys/devices/platform/asus-nb-wmi/throttle_thermal_policy16:26
lorimarkhi guys, don't mean to bother here, but i've got a new server I'm trying to plug in behind a sonic-wall dmz, and i can't seem to get traffic through to it to ssh in to the box... wondering if anyone can offer any advice - usually the sonic walls just set up fairly easily, not sure why i'm blocked here17:01
PreppieIf you're on a dmz, you won't be able to access anything on the network17:02
leftyfblorimark: can you ssh to the server from another machine on the network?17:02
lorimarkhi leftyfb - the server is on an X3 port, my LAN is on X0, the WAN is on X1.  I ran through the dmz stuff, and I can ssh from LAN to DMZ but not WAN to DMZ17:04
lorimarkfwiw i hate sonic walls...17:05
leftyfblorimark: ok, so your issue is with your network setup(sonic-wall). You'll need to seek support in that direction. Maybe try #networking17:05
lorimarknetworking!!! cool, thank you!17:05
sixwheeledbeasttraffic from where? dmz is suppose to be separated from LAN so something seems odd. as above probably off topic.17:07
Preppiemy understanding is he was trying to access the local network externally through the DMZ17:08
Preppiessh won't work that way which is the default behavior. So, sonicwall will have to be setup to forward ssh to traffic. But yeah, this is off-topic...17:09
sixwheeledbeastthe whole point of a dmz is it's separated from the lan.17:10
oerhekssudo ufw allow ssh17:11
Preppieufw doesn't work like that for dmz....17:11
cbreakI don't really see the point in the complexity of setting up a DMZ17:12
Preppiesixwheeledbeast, yes. But it's usually put in place as a method to control traffic between internet and local network. It's very useful in large organizations where if the DMZ is attacked, it won't affect the local network17:13
cbreaksetting up simple port forwarding / allowed firewall ports seems much easier17:13
PreppieIt's certainly annoying to setup, but it's very effective in preventing most common cyberattacks17:13
leftyfbfeel free to continue the discussion in #networking or #ubuntu-offtopic17:13
cbreakPreppie: I doubt it17:13
Preppiesimple port forwarding is ok for smaller networks17:13
cbreakmost cyber attacks use e-mail, which is allowed, or outgoing https requests, which is also allowed :D17:14
Preppiecbreak, you won't believe how effective a well configured dmz is....17:14
leftyfbcbreak: Preppie: feel free to continue the discussion in #networking or #ubuntu-offtopic. Lets stay on topic here with ubuntu support17:14
Preppieleftyfb, oh yeah, sorry mate17:14
donofrioI wonder why userland I just installed when I installed ubuntu, it was missing ping.  but debian has ping... ;(17:41
donofrioon my note517:41
oerheksdonofrio, your ubuntu install on a note 5 is not a real ubuntu install, is it?17:43
charcoHi! Is there a way to setup kernel cmdline parameters in the ubuntu liveusb iso?17:43
lotuspsychjecharco: you want to edit the ubuntu live?17:44
charcoYes -- I want to set the BadRam parameters so the installer doesn't use the faulty ram ranges.17:45
leftyfbdonofrio: all official versions of ubuntu have iputils-ping installed by default17:45
oerheksat the point; try ubuntu without installing' you can hit F6 options17:45
leftyfbcharco: why bother installing ubuntu on a machine with bad memory?17:45
charcoBecause it's the only machine that I have17:46
charcoAnd there are few faulty address ranges (all located in the same physical page)17:46
oerheksoh, the F6 function does not give free parameters17:46
oerheksremove bad ram strip17:46
charcooerheks: :(17:46
charcoit is soldered.17:47
charcoInstalling ubuntu works, I just want to make sure that the installation did not get corrupted because of the faulty ram. So I was wondering if there was any way to pass extra kernel cmdline parameters to the installer.17:47
oerheksnot during install, after install you can edit the grubline17:48
oerheksadd a kernel parameter memtest=4 # and it will select automaticly your bad adresses https://askubuntu.com/questions/908925/how-do-i-tell-ubuntu-not-to-use-certain-memory-addresses17:50
oerheksbe aware; bad ram may grow...17:51
charcoI expect to get a new computer before it grows too much :P17:51
charcooerheks: yeah, but my concern was during ubuntu installation, to make sure it is installed correctly17:51
lotuspsychjecharco: there's also cubic to edit your own ubuntu iso's but will be this all worth the work?17:54
charcona17:54
charcoIf it's not easy to do I will just hope for the best 🤞17:55
PeGaSuShello folks. I have probably one of the stupidest questions: I already have a laptop with Windows + Xubuntu on dual boot. so the main question is: can I install a third OS but with the bootloader independent of the actual bootloader in an external HDD? so, if in another computer I plug in the external HDD and I chose to boot from it I already have the bootloader and such. I don't know if I make myself clear18:06
PeGaSuSbasically what I want/need is an entire OS in the external drive, with its own bootloader and such, but without affecting the actual bootloader18:09
leftyfbPeGaSuS: yes, that is possible18:10
PeGaSuSany tutorial for that? I don't seem to find anything comprehensive in the matter.18:11
leftyfbPeGaSuS: the easiest method, physically disconnect all the other drives, plug in the usb drive, boot the installer either on another usb flash drive or cd and install18:12
TJ-PeGaSuS: during installation ensure you select the correct boot device - and remember by default it'll be either UEFI /or/ BIOS boot mode, but not both, so to work on other systems will need that other system to boot in the same mode18:13
TJ-PeGaSuS: you can manually create a dual boot mode install with some preparation before the installer18:14
PeGaSuSaye. but in this case I can't unplug the internal HDD. it's an eMMC card (I believe it's that the name)18:15
PeGaSuSand I don't want to touch the actual install18:15
TJ-PeGaSuS: as I said you don't need to - just ensure you select the /correct/ device where the bootloader device choice is18:17
TJ-PeGaSuS: e.g. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=014-Install-Installation-Type-05.png18:18
PeGaSuSright. the actual bootloader is in /dev/sda so I should choose /dev/sdb (to create a portable OS) instead?18:19
TJ-PeGaSuS: if /dev/sdb is the device you're installing the OS to, then yes18:20
PeGaSuSI see. I'll give it a try in a bit. I'm just downloading the OS18:21
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lotuspsychje!rootirc | rez19:21
ubotturez: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.19:21
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leftyfbAnyone know how to disable ipv6 within systemd-resolved? Not the whole system, that is already done and doesn't prevent systemd-resolved from attempting ipv6 lookups. Also not systemd-resolve as that's not the local caching daemon I'm referring to.20:10
leftyfbI also tried LinkLocalAddressing=ipv4 in networkd.conf thinking that might help but it doesn't20:12
TJ-leftyfb: how do you mean, disable IPv6? disable returning AAAA resource records? or disable contacting an IPv6-connected DNS server?20:13
leftyfbTJ-: attempting the AAAA lookups at all20:13
TJ-LinkLocalAddressing= is for IPv6 fe80:: or IPv4 169.25420:14
leftyfb"Cache miss for example.com IN AAAA"20:14
leftyfbTJ-: that's only for networkd, and doesn't seem to affect systemd-resolved. I already tried it20:15
leftyfbTJ-: in 20 minutes there were over 2000 AAAA queries and about 20 A20:17
leftyfbtrying to eliminate that traffic20:17
leftyfbas small as it is20:17
TJ-leftyfb: in .network files, LLMNR= is read by systemd-resolved. But that won't help what you want20:19
leftyfbTJ-: yeah, I'm thinking this isn't something anyone accounted for20:22
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TJ-leftyfb: 'Cache miss...' is a 'debug' level option - are you correlating those messages to network traffic?20:23
leftyfbTJ-: yes20:24
leftyfbwell, I don't have those queries shown on the server side, let me check .. maybe there isn't actually any traffic from this20:27
leftyfbyup, there's an AAAA and even an MX query20:33
TJ-leftyfb: best solutions is to drop those packets in the firewall.20:35
leftyfbhttps://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Mps72rndmr/20:36
leftyfbTJ-: not sure how you'd go about dropping AAAA and MX queries and not A20:36
leftyfbeither way, there's no firewall to speak of, this is a local network20:36
TJ-I meant on the local system20:36
TJ-do the queries originate from an IPv6 or IPv6 local address?20:37
TJ-oops, or IPv4 :)20:37
leftyfbipv420:37
leftyfbipv6 is disabled at the system level (sysctl and grub) so there's no ipv6 address on the interface in question20:38
sarnoldleftyfb: if they're all negative responses, you could configure resolved to cache those, too; see resolved.conf(5)20:38
leftyfbsarnold: nope, we purposely set no-negative because we need that for other operations20:39
sarnoldah20:40
sarnoldleftyfb: I couldn't find any easy examples on the dnsdist.org webpage but you could probably configure it to return servfail or nxdomain or something on AAAA records20:41
leftyfboh, that's an idea. Let me see if I can dig up how to do that20:42
TJ-leftyfb: iptables module: https://github.com/oskar456/xt_dns20:48
sarnoldTJ-: well that's kinda neat looking20:48
TJ-I thought it was in the archive20:49
TJ-realised it works since it's DKMS - had forgotten it was added20:49
hoppityDo you guys think there is a way to pass through the outside sounds through my headset internal mic to be able to hear when someon calls my name?20:51
pasizhoppity: so you want to use mic as speaker+20:52
TJ-hoppity: you meant through the headset speakers?20:52
leftyfbhoppity: I think your question is well beyond the scope of this channel. You're looking at some custom voice recognition and announcement software. Sounds pretty possible though20:58
hoppityvoice recognition?20:59
hoppityNo, I just want to hear what my microphone hears20:59
hoppityI definitely did not explaine myself correctly :p sorry21:00
TJ-hoppity: you can configure a monitor on the microphone and mix it to the default output (Pulseaudio)21:01
hoppityTJ-: thank you21:01
pasizhoppity: AI like wake word?21:01
pasizlike hey google, but wake word is your name21:02
hoppitypasiz: lol what? no AI, no intelligence21:02
hoppityjust literally hear my mic in my headset so I can hear whats happening around me21:02
pasizuse open back headphones21:02
hoppitypasiz: too late for that plus having music playing wont let you hear really21:02
TJ-hoppity: see https://www.scivision.dev/loopback-audio-linux-pulseaudio/21:03
hoppityTJ-: thank you, you are truly the man with the answers21:03
pasizso you bought insulating headphones and turn monitor on to make those like openback?21:04
TJ-hoppity: ahhh, that last link is the opposite of what you want21:04
hoppitypasiz: yes because I like to be difficult like that21:04
hoppityjk, I bought them for home, now I am using them at work and need to hear around me21:05
hoppityTJ-: lol it looked legit21:05
TJ-hoppity: this refers to 'line in' but where you read that, read instance 'microphone in' https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/263274/pipe-mix-line-in-to-output-in-pulseaudio21:06
hoppityTJ-: thank you, seems like the loopback module is what I need21:06
shibbolethTJ-, ping21:07
TJ-hoppity: definitive info: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/Modules/#module-loopback21:08
TJ-shibboleth: pong21:08
hoppityTJ-: damn, my deepest thanks TJ, you went above and beyond the line of duty21:08
shibbolethTJ-, i overwrote bobs spi/bios flash with a dump from alice (mostly, made sure the serials/MAC/etc were saved) and now the bob grub issue is kinda solved21:09
shibbolethas in, i no longer have to unload the tpm module21:10
pasizwould be nice gag on your work, pop a balloon near your head, when your mic is picking far sounds and playing out quite loud to get something reasonable output ;) Some limiter would be also be reasonable to implement.21:10
shibbolethso, my guess was likely correct: something about the efivars21:10
TJ-shibboleth: ouch!21:10
shibbolethnow, how some odd efivar makes grub > 2.02-2ubuntu8.21 bork unless you unload the tpm module for me and several other, i really don't know21:13
shibbolethbut, having two identical systems and the issue only affecting one was handy in my case21:13
TJ-shibboleth: that's one reason I always buy at least 2 of everything21:14
TJ-swap-out on failure, comparision, A/N testing21:14
TJ-errr, A/B testing too21:15
shibbolethyou weren't hit with any divine revelation while debugging/bisecting on your end?21:15
TJ-no, not this time :)21:16
shibbolethwell, i guess i'm glad that "solves" the issue for me, too bad about the some hundred other people (out of umpteen millions)21:18
shibbolethbut seriously, the issue seems to have been triggered by the diff between 8.21 and 8.2321:20
PeGaSuSfeedback: the installation in the external drive was successful and I just need to plug it in on another computer, boot from the external drive and I have Ubuntu running on another laptop :)22:00
PeGaSuSthanks for the pointers about where to install the bootloader and such22:01
bluejaypopI'm having a problem with certificates, just like: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K6W5pgTF3W/ how can it be solved?22:32
sarnoldbluejaypop: try running this, maybe it'll give a similar error: openssl s_client -verify 2 -CApath /etc/ssl/certs/ -connect google.com.mx:44322:36
sarnoldbluejaypop: here's what it looks like on my focal system https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rFhkR8qRDr/22:37
bluejaypopNo client certificate CA names sent22:37
bluejaypopSSL handshake has read 4336 bytes and written 395 bytes22:37
bluejaypopVerification: OK22:37
bluejaypopyes it works22:38
sarnoldbluejaypop: hmm okay. I kinda expected a failure :)22:44
bluejaypopsarnold, worked now with https://serverfault.com/a/979014/578479 on /etc/wgetrc22:45
sarnoldbluejaypop: so strange :/ I wonder why you had to edit it22:47
Guest75Hi, using Lubuntu 20.04 LTS, when I use a VPN, my wifi disconnects randomly. But without a VPN my wifi is fine, I wonder why the VPN affects my wifi?22:47
pasizit keeps constant traffic22:47
pasizwithout it you won't notice ber22:47
Guest75wym?22:48
bluejaypopsarnold, I did openssl version -d  and I got: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cvgKK8yWpv/22:48
bluejaypopthat could be related22:48
sarnoldbluejaypop: waaaaaat22:50
bluejaypopi think a repository had a different openssl package and upgrading it mesed up the OPENSSLDIR22:50
sarnoldthat 'el6' sure makes it feel like a rhel6 thing22:51
sarnoldbluejaypop: that would certainly do it.. your dpkg -l openssl output should match one of these version numbers https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl22:52
bluejaypopyea i have this one: ii  openssl        1.1.1f-1ubuntu2.4 amd64        Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - cryptographic utility22:53
bluejaypopi reinstalled but i get the same22:55
sarnoldbluejaypop: okay, how about debsums -as openssl libssl1.1   ?22:56
bluejaypopsarnold,  let me try22:58
bluejaypopdebsums: changed file /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf (from openssl package)22:58
bluejaypopbut i did that, i was checking the config22:59
bluejaypopbut, nothing was changed22:59
sarnoldhmm, I wonder where that 'el6' path came from then :/22:59
bluejaypopwhat is shown on your installation ?23:00
sarnold$ openssl version -d23:00
sarnoldOPENSSLDIR: "/usr/lib/ssl"23:00
bluejaypopdamn23:00
bluejaypopyou know, i have another pc and i ran the same, and I got almost the same output on OPENSSLDIR but is working okay that pc, so i dont understand now23:03
bluejaypopi had to do a symbolic link to that path, later i will find out what the problem is23:07
bluejaypopthanks sarnold for your help.23:07
sarnoldbluejaypop: crazy. good luck :)23:07
bluejaypophehe, thx23:07
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