[00:21] <goddard> whats a lighter vnc client maybe terminal based?
[00:21] <goddard> i noticed VNC eats up a lot of resources
[00:21] <sarnold> 'terminal based vnc'??
[00:21] <sarnold> I thought the whole point of vnc is that it's a graphical thing
[00:22] <sarnold> otherwise you'd just use ssh or mosh
[00:22] <goddard> sarnold: well something I can optimize to my liking
[00:22] <goddard> remmina is slow and has very little optimization options
[00:22] <goddard> like how can i toggle between maybe GPU accelerated versus CPU
[00:23] <goddard> opengl or something
[00:23] <goddard> some hardware does a much better job of processing images that change rapidly
[00:23] <CodeMouse92> goddard: Have you already looked at the RDP Quality settings on Remmina?
[00:23] <goddard> its VNC
[00:23] <goddard> yea
[00:23] <goddard> changed it and no effect
[00:24] <goddard> it bogs to my system when running certain CUDA tasks and makes it unusable
[00:24] <goddard> i have had this problem with other apps as well that do CPU acceleration rather than GPU
[00:24] <CodeMouse92> goddard: After you change it there, you need to apply the settings to a particular connection from its own Edit option, and Advanced -> Quality
[00:25] <CodeMouse92> (That confused me for a while at first)
[00:25] <CodeMouse92> And then, ofc, disconnect/reconnect
[00:25] <CodeMouse92> Beyond that, I think things like VNC are *usually* heavy?
[00:27] <CodeMouse92> VNC is always slower than RDP for one thing, because it's pixel-based. It's an image stream
[00:28] <CodeMouse92> (And yes, those settings I mention will not apply to VNC, if you are indeed using VNC instead of RDP)
[00:30] <goddard> no kidding
[00:31] <goddard> looks like RDP is more developed
[00:31] <goddard> isn't RDP a windows technology
[00:33] <CodeMouse92> *shrug* yes, but it works
[00:33] <CodeMouse92> FreeRDP is a free implementation
[00:35] <CodeMouse92> Looks like this is an open source FreeRDP server for Linux: https://github.com/neutrinolabs/xrdp
[00:35] <goddard> yeah thats what i just installed
[00:35] <CodeMouse92> cool, gl
[00:35] <goddard> it connects it looks like and then the window just closes
[00:35] <goddard> probably some config is wrong or gotta restart the service or something?
[00:36] <CodeMouse92> Probably. I know RDP does not like someone being logged in on the system when it's also hosting
[00:36] <CodeMouse92> But you'll have to check the docs, I have not used xrdp before
[00:37] <CodeMouse92> On Windows, RDP will actually log out the current user automatically before allowing a login over RDP
[00:37] <CodeMouse92> And logged in on the local machine will kill the RDP connection
[00:37] <CodeMouse92> *logging
[01:28] <goddard> ahh
[01:28] <goddard> also notice x2go and freenx
[01:29] <goddard> are those terrible
[01:29] <goddard> tried steam streaming
[01:29] <goddard> might work but its hard to get it to allow you to see your desktop
[03:26] <quadrat> is there a way to set a default network on virt-manager? as it seems every time i create a new vm, it sets it the multipass bridge
[03:33] <yLE> Hi
[03:40] <matsaman> hi yle
[03:42] <yLE> quit
[03:42] <yLE> quit
[05:43] <michagogo> CodeMouse92: minor correction: it doesn’t log the user out, it disconnects their session (equivalent to, say, “switch user”)
[05:43] <michagogo> The model is that it’s not remote control, it’s remote login
[05:50] <alkisg> CodeMouse92: this is an artificial limit that only applies to "pro" windows versions. It doesn't apply to Linux server versions or to Linux
[05:50] <alkisg> *to Windows server versions to to Linux
[07:47] <ice9> how to install python pip2 on ubuntu 21.04?
[07:57] <jluc> Hello
[07:57] <Alabalistic> ice9:
[07:57] <Alabalistic> I run kubuntu 21.04 and pip is installed, it's just pip not pip2
[07:58] <jluc> i want to calibrate my screen color rendering
[07:58] <jluc> so i bought a Xrite i1display Studio color probe
[07:58] <jluc> but i cant find a way to use it : ubuntu 20.10 calibration tool hangs
[07:58] <jluc> and DisplayCal.net software is not available for recent ubuntu
[07:58] <jluc> How can i calibrate my screen ?
[07:59] <jluc> Your experience is highly wellcomed
[08:01] <andrews> how do I install haskell on ubuntu
[08:03] <tomreyn> andrews: by installing suitable packages, which you could identify using    apt search --names-only ^haskell
[09:12] <gebbione> hi guys, i am always getting problems with the window manager when i run a search. As soon as i type two characters it does something and locks/blocks the application. It become unresponsive. Ubuntu 18 lts
[09:12] <gebbione> any suggestions, ideally i would like to search with a UX app
[09:28] <Guest93> yo
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> welcome Guest93
[09:29] <Guest93> hi, i would just like to ask how good is ubuntu for modern hardware these days
[09:29] <Guest93> better than other distros?
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> come to #ubuntu-discuss if you like Guest93
[10:32] <gebbione> lotuspsychje, why a separate channel?
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> gebbione: discussions about distro compare/performance doesnt really fit in ubuntu support
[10:37] <weedmic> gebbione: avoids heated arguments
[10:38] <gebbione> what was the hate in my statement?
[10:39] <weedmic> not you, the "reason" why it should be the chat channel.
[10:40] <gebbione> ok i was wondering if i was in the right channel as i received no suggestions to my problem, thanks for clarifying the difference
[12:34] <rapid16> How do I fix a machine that is missing 'sudo' ?
[12:35] <jluc> i found displaycal flatpak and could install and run it
[12:36] <jluc> there still is an issue since it cannot install the profile
[12:36] <jluc> issue with LUT and argyll and rights - have to investigate
[12:40] <donofrio> rapid16, missing sudo?
[12:41] <rapid16> Yeah..it said sudo is not found
[12:41] <rapid16> I didn't know that would be possible
[12:42] <donofrio> humm, perhaps login as root and apt-get install sudo -y
[12:42] <rapid16> Hmm. That would be difficult...Docker container
[12:42] <donofrio> it is a package apt-cache search show it exists
[12:42] <donofrio> where did you get container?
[12:43] <jluc> Dispwin error says "We don't have access to the VideoLUT for clearing"
[12:43] <rapid16> Digital Ocean's NGINX web server
[12:43] <rapid16> From docker hub I think
[12:44] <donofrio> talk with DO i would think?
[12:44] <jluc> forum sayz """there is no working color management in Wayland. If you want color management, use X11."
[12:44] <jluc> I had to switch to wayland due to an issue with geany freezes on x11...
[12:44] <rapid16> Okay. I'll just get an nginx container, plain
[12:44] <donofrio> yah
[12:44] <jluc> no color management in wayland o0 ???
[12:44] <donofrio> good luck
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:09]  * pene slaps danlinux around a bit with a large coregonus autumnalis
[13:21] <pene> hid3:
[13:25] <Guest45> Hey there. I'm back. I've been trying to recover a corrupted hard drive. My last steps were "sudo losetup -f -P --show path/to/file.img" and "fsck -N -V /dev/loopX"
[13:26] <Guest45> So after fsck finished doing its thing. What's next? How do I explore my data? Do I have to mount file.img or /dev/loopX?
[13:26] <Guest45> I don't have nearly as much GiB free on my computer to mount the entire file.img. Is there a work around or do I even need all of that space in the first place?
[13:29] <Guest45> df -h /mnt returns 23G avail, however, file.img is a sparse file 184G (466G total)
[13:35] <leftyfb> Guest45: you don't need additional space to mount an .img file. Regardless, you need to mount the /dev/loopx's, not the img
[13:36] <do5rsw> leftyfb: can't yoo du mount -o loop or something similar too?
[13:37] <leftyfb> do5rsw: I don't see how that's relevant here
[13:37] <Guest45> leftyfb How come I don't need additional space? This is puzzling
[13:38] <Guest45> leftyfb Once I mount the /dev/loopX, would I be able to navigate the file system just like the rest of file system (that is with cd, ls, etc)?
[13:38] <leftyfb> Guest45: because the space lives in the .img, you're not taking up more space by mounting it
[13:38] <leftyfb> Guest45: you don't need 16G of space on your machine every time you mount a 16G flash drive
[13:38] <leftyfb> Guest45: yes
[13:38] <Guest45> Wow, that makes sense LOL
[13:38] <Guest45> I'm such an idiot hahah
[13:39] <do5rsw> mount -o loop <imagefile> is probably the easiest way to mount an image using /dev/loopx I guess
[13:40] <Guest45> leftyfb Is there a way I should go about mounting /dev/loopX? Taking into account that this file.img was generated by gddrescue from a corrupted hard drive and then ran fsck to try and fix it
[13:40] <yates> i'm running remmina to connect to my lubuntu 18.04 LTS system remotely. the remote's .xsession file uses lxsession.
[13:40] <yates> but i don't get my shortcut keys - any way to get those to work in the remmina session?
[13:40] <Guest45> do5rsw but my image is already 'mounted' as a /dev/loopX. Wouldn't that re mount it?
[13:40] <leftyfb> do5rsw: the .img is not a filesystem, it's an image of a drive with partitions. The whole purpose of losetup is to discover and create mount points to the individual partitions (/dev/loopx)
[13:40] <Guest45> IIUC, I need to
[13:41] <Guest45> Oops. I didn't mean to send that. IIUC, I need to run "sudo losetup -f -P --show path/to/file.img" first and then mount /dev/loopX
[13:41] <do5rsw> hm afaik /dev/loopx is no mountpoint but a device node
[13:42] <do5rsw> so you maybe just need to mount that device(s)
[13:42] <leftyfb> Guest45: yes, you're on the right track. Ignore loop mounting, it's not relevant in this case
[13:42] <leftyfb> do5rsw: I don't see why you're trying to suggest using tools and methods to solve a problem that isn't being presented here
[13:42] <do5rsw> sp I'd try to mount /dev/loopX /mountpoint
[13:42] <leftyfb> yes, we all know that
[13:44] <Guest45> Except me, maybe
[13:44] <leftyfb> Guest45: you already understood you needed to mount one of the /dev/loopx's
[13:44] <Guest45> So, should my mount command look like this 'mount /dev/loopX -o loop /mnt/recovery'?
[13:44] <leftyfb> Guest45: no, do not use loop
[13:45] <do5rsw> just 'mount /dev/loopX /mnt/recorvery'
[13:45] <leftyfb> correct
[13:46] <leftyfb> Guest45: loop is only used when there is no loop devices found/created for a file you're trying to mount. In this case, we used losetup to do that for us
[13:47] <do5rsw> correct
[13:47] <leftyfb> do5rsw's original suggestion was to use loop on the .img file, but that won't work when the file is multiple partitions needing multiple loop devices
[13:47] <do5rsw> indeed
[13:48] <do5rsw> this works fine with iso images and other "one-partition" images
[13:48] <do5rsw> but not in your case
[13:50] <Guest45> I see. I'm still trying to understand what loop means in this case but to be completely honest, I'm also trying to recover my data, so I have a little list of concepts I should read on about if I don't understand it right away
[13:50] <Guest45> do5rsw what would be an example of such image? Clearly not this case since it is a ext4 partitioned image, right?
[13:52] <TJ-> Guest45: loop is short for loopdev. "sudo losetup --find --show --partscan path/to/file" will report the loopdev created for this. Any partitions will also be mapped so you can then do things like "mount /dev/loopXp2 /mnt/fs"
[13:52] <leftyfb> Guest45: an iso or a .img file created from a single partition or directory, not an entire drive with multiple partitions. -o loop does the job that losetup did by automatically creating a /dev/loopx device for you if you've only got 1 filesystem to mount
[13:53] <TJ-> Guest45: you can determine the partition(s) with "grep 'loopX$' /proc/partitions" (where X is the loopdev number and $ is a literal $ (meaning end-of-line in regular expression)
[13:57] <do5rsw> however losetup seems not to throw any error if it cannot detect partitions. At least it did so on my linux laptop when I tried losetup on a raspian image
[13:57] <do5rsw> it thus did create and show me a loop device for it but it is not mountable
[13:57] <do5rsw> maye that struck you too?
[13:59] <do5rsw> Guest45 hm probably floppy images for examle?
[14:32] <TJ-> do5rsw: partitions are optional extras :)
[14:45] <TJ-> do5rsw: just checked; the 'lite' .img has 2 partitions shown. I did notice my earlier command was wrong though, should have been "grep loopX /proc/partitions"
[15:44] <Malteraate> Hi there, I'm fiddling a bit with the hardware. I have a Asus laptop (AMD CPU) FX505DV, and I'd like to be able to change the fan speed manually (even under no load, there's a spinning). There are some tutorials available but none that I saw apply to me, either using asus-fan-control or using lm-sensors and fancontrol. I therefore tried to play
[15:44] <Malteraate> myself and discovered the "/sys/devices/platform/asus-nb-wmi/hwmon/hwmon5/pwm1_enable". However, I can't change the content of this file, even in sudo. Someone knows about this and could walk me through? Thank you.
[15:48] <oerheks> i would not fiddle with fanspeed, that should be in control of your BIOS, but if you do, be carefull; some guide https://itectec.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-how-to-control-fan-speed/
[15:55] <Malteraate> oerheks: Thanks. I agree with you, though the BIOS doesn't leave me any choice in the fan configuration. I tried the link you suggest and can't have pwmconfig to work. I get the following output: ' /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed'. I saw some people suggesting to enforce lax in GRUB to alleviate this issue, I
[15:55] <Malteraate> tried without any success for me. That is why I started to explore by myself the "/sys/devices/platform/asus-nb-wmi/hwmon/hwmon5/pwm1_enable" to see if I could set fan speeds by hand (just to see). Infortunately, while I can read actual fan speed in the file "/sys/devices/platform/asus-nb-wmi/hwmon/hwmon5/fan1_input" (I can see that currently the
[15:55] <Malteraate> fan is at 2400 RPM), I can't set it with "echo 3000 > sudo tee /sys/devices/platform/asus-nb-wmi/hwmon/hwmon5/fan1_input" (stays still at 2400). root root is the owner of the file but permissions are r-- r-- ---.
[15:58] <oerheks> i feel free not to help damaging your hardware :-D
[15:58] <oerheks> good luck!
[15:59] <Malteraate> Ok :). Thanks anyway
[15:59] <tomreyn> Malteraate: make sure you have the latest bios, this can help improve your management options, or improve the default fan speeds. install lm-sensors and run sensors-detect to ensure all sensors are properly detected.
[16:02] <Malteraate> tomreyn: thank you for your reply. Indeed, I updated my BIOS to the latest version. lm-sensors runs well and the fan is correctly detected (https://pastebin.com/ntJkdn90)
[16:02] <tomreyn> disabling nvidia graphics may improve thermals
[16:04] <Malteraate> Well, turns out the fan from the graphic card doesn't run at all (from nvidia-smi, I can see that the fan is disabled. also myself, I can hear when it starts, it's on the other side of the laptop). I can therefore safely say that I want to modify the behavior of the CPU fan only.
[16:05] <tomreyn> also removing extra hdd's, if any, or replacing a hdd / full size ssd by an m2 may help with thermals
[16:08] <tomreyn> those series had overheating problems in the past https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ASUS-TUF-Ryzen-Thermal-Fix
[16:09] <tomreyn> (which may be why the fans are now always on/always audible)
[16:16] <Malteraate> Thanks for the tips. I have the Karnel 5.8 and I do have the thermal_policy_throttle able, such as the fanboost_mode as well. However even with those set to silent I have still have the CPU Fan 100% of the time. On windows, this doesn't happen and when I do light work, fans are all off. Which makes me think that there's something tweakable here.
[16:26] <tomreyn> The ASUS thermal policy can be configured now via /sys/devices/platform/asus-nb-wmi/throttle_thermal_policy
[17:01] <lorimark> hi guys, don't mean to bother here, but i've got a new server I'm trying to plug in behind a sonic-wall dmz, and i can't seem to get traffic through to it to ssh in to the box... wondering if anyone can offer any advice - usually the sonic walls just set up fairly easily, not sure why i'm blocked here
[17:02] <Preppie> If you're on a dmz, you won't be able to access anything on the network
[17:02] <leftyfb> lorimark: can you ssh to the server from another machine on the network?
[17:04] <lorimark> hi leftyfb - the server is on an X3 port, my LAN is on X0, the WAN is on X1.  I ran through the dmz stuff, and I can ssh from LAN to DMZ but not WAN to DMZ
[17:05] <lorimark> fwiw i hate sonic walls...
[17:05] <leftyfb> lorimark: ok, so your issue is with your network setup(sonic-wall). You'll need to seek support in that direction. Maybe try #networking
[17:05] <lorimark> networking!!! cool, thank you!
[17:07] <sixwheeledbeast> traffic from where? dmz is suppose to be separated from LAN so something seems odd. as above probably off topic.
[17:08] <Preppie> my understanding is he was trying to access the local network externally through the DMZ
[17:09] <Preppie> ssh won't work that way which is the default behavior. So, sonicwall will have to be setup to forward ssh to traffic. But yeah, this is off-topic...
[17:10] <sixwheeledbeast> the whole point of a dmz is it's separated from the lan.
[17:11] <oerheks> sudo ufw allow ssh
[17:11] <Preppie> ufw doesn't work like that for dmz....
[17:12] <cbreak> I don't really see the point in the complexity of setting up a DMZ
[17:13] <Preppie> sixwheeledbeast, yes. But it's usually put in place as a method to control traffic between internet and local network. It's very useful in large organizations where if the DMZ is attacked, it won't affect the local network
[17:13] <cbreak> setting up simple port forwarding / allowed firewall ports seems much easier
[17:13] <Preppie> It's certainly annoying to setup, but it's very effective in preventing most common cyberattacks
[17:13] <leftyfb> feel free to continue the discussion in #networking or #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:13] <cbreak> Preppie: I doubt it
[17:13] <Preppie> simple port forwarding is ok for smaller networks
[17:14] <cbreak> most cyber attacks use e-mail, which is allowed, or outgoing https requests, which is also allowed :D
[17:14] <Preppie> cbreak, you won't believe how effective a well configured dmz is....
[17:14] <leftyfb> cbreak: Preppie: feel free to continue the discussion in #networking or #ubuntu-offtopic. Lets stay on topic here with ubuntu support
[17:14] <Preppie> leftyfb, oh yeah, sorry mate
[17:41] <donofrio> I wonder why userland I just installed when I installed ubuntu, it was missing ping.  but debian has ping... ;(
[17:41] <donofrio> on my note5
[17:43] <oerheks> donofrio, your ubuntu install on a note 5 is not a real ubuntu install, is it?
[17:43] <charco> Hi! Is there a way to setup kernel cmdline parameters in the ubuntu liveusb iso?
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> charco: you want to edit the ubuntu live?
[17:45] <charco> Yes -- I want to set the BadRam parameters so the installer doesn't use the faulty ram ranges.
[17:45] <leftyfb> donofrio: all official versions of ubuntu have iputils-ping installed by default
[17:45] <oerheks> at the point; try ubuntu without installing' you can hit F6 options
[17:45] <leftyfb> charco: why bother installing ubuntu on a machine with bad memory?
[17:46] <charco> Because it's the only machine that I have
[17:46] <charco> And there are few faulty address ranges (all located in the same physical page)
[17:46] <oerheks> oh, the F6 function does not give free parameters
[17:46] <oerheks> remove bad ram strip
[17:46] <charco> oerheks: :(
[17:47] <charco> it is soldered.
[17:47] <charco> Installing ubuntu works, I just want to make sure that the installation did not get corrupted because of the faulty ram. So I was wondering if there was any way to pass extra kernel cmdline parameters to the installer.
[17:48] <oerheks> not during install, after install you can edit the grubline
[17:50] <oerheks> add a kernel parameter memtest=4 # and it will select automaticly your bad adresses https://askubuntu.com/questions/908925/how-do-i-tell-ubuntu-not-to-use-certain-memory-addresses
[17:51] <oerheks> be aware; bad ram may grow...
[17:51] <charco> I expect to get a new computer before it grows too much :P
[17:51] <charco> oerheks: yeah, but my concern was during ubuntu installation, to make sure it is installed correctly
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> charco: there's also cubic to edit your own ubuntu iso's but will be this all worth the work?
[17:54] <charco> na
[17:55] <charco> If it's not easy to do I will just hope for the best 🤞
[18:06] <PeGaSuS> hello folks. I have probably one of the stupidest questions: I already have a laptop with Windows + Xubuntu on dual boot. so the main question is: can I install a third OS but with the bootloader independent of the actual bootloader in an external HDD? so, if in another computer I plug in the external HDD and I chose to boot from it I already have the bootloader and such. I don't know if I make myself clear
[18:09] <PeGaSuS> basically what I want/need is an entire OS in the external drive, with its own bootloader and such, but without affecting the actual bootloader
[18:10] <leftyfb> PeGaSuS: yes, that is possible
[18:11] <PeGaSuS> any tutorial for that? I don't seem to find anything comprehensive in the matter.
[18:12] <leftyfb> PeGaSuS: the easiest method, physically disconnect all the other drives, plug in the usb drive, boot the installer either on another usb flash drive or cd and install
[18:13] <TJ-> PeGaSuS: during installation ensure you select the correct boot device - and remember by default it'll be either UEFI /or/ BIOS boot mode, but not both, so to work on other systems will need that other system to boot in the same mode
[18:14] <TJ-> PeGaSuS: you can manually create a dual boot mode install with some preparation before the installer
[18:15] <PeGaSuS> aye. but in this case I can't unplug the internal HDD. it's an eMMC card (I believe it's that the name)
[18:15] <PeGaSuS> and I don't want to touch the actual install
[18:17] <TJ-> PeGaSuS: as I said you don't need to - just ensure you select the /correct/ device where the bootloader device choice is
[18:18] <TJ-> PeGaSuS: e.g. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=014-Install-Installation-Type-05.png
[18:19] <PeGaSuS> right. the actual bootloader is in /dev/sda so I should choose /dev/sdb (to create a portable OS) instead?
[18:20] <TJ-> PeGaSuS: if /dev/sdb is the device you're installing the OS to, then yes
[18:21] <PeGaSuS> I see. I'll give it a try in a bit. I'm just downloading the OS
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> !rootirc | rez
[20:10] <leftyfb> Anyone know how to disable ipv6 within systemd-resolved? Not the whole system, that is already done and doesn't prevent systemd-resolved from attempting ipv6 lookups. Also not systemd-resolve as that's not the local caching daemon I'm referring to.
[20:12] <leftyfb> I also tried LinkLocalAddressing=ipv4 in networkd.conf thinking that might help but it doesn't
[20:13] <TJ-> leftyfb: how do you mean, disable IPv6? disable returning AAAA resource records? or disable contacting an IPv6-connected DNS server?
[20:13] <leftyfb> TJ-: attempting the AAAA lookups at all
[20:14] <TJ-> LinkLocalAddressing= is for IPv6 fe80:: or IPv4 169.254
[20:14] <leftyfb> "Cache miss for example.com IN AAAA"
[20:15] <leftyfb> TJ-: that's only for networkd, and doesn't seem to affect systemd-resolved. I already tried it
[20:17] <leftyfb> TJ-: in 20 minutes there were over 2000 AAAA queries and about 20 A
[20:17] <leftyfb> trying to eliminate that traffic
[20:17] <leftyfb> as small as it is
[20:19] <TJ-> leftyfb: in .network files, LLMNR= is read by systemd-resolved. But that won't help what you want
[20:22] <leftyfb> TJ-: yeah, I'm thinking this isn't something anyone accounted for
[20:23] <TJ-> leftyfb: 'Cache miss...' is a 'debug' level option - are you correlating those messages to network traffic?
[20:24] <leftyfb> TJ-: yes
[20:27] <leftyfb> well, I don't have those queries shown on the server side, let me check .. maybe there isn't actually any traffic from this
[20:33] <leftyfb> yup, there's an AAAA and even an MX query
[20:35] <TJ-> leftyfb: best solutions is to drop those packets in the firewall.
[20:36] <leftyfb> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Mps72rndmr/
[20:36] <leftyfb> TJ-: not sure how you'd go about dropping AAAA and MX queries and not A
[20:36] <leftyfb> either way, there's no firewall to speak of, this is a local network
[20:36] <TJ-> I meant on the local system
[20:37] <TJ-> do the queries originate from an IPv6 or IPv6 local address?
[20:37] <TJ-> oops, or IPv4 :)
[20:37] <leftyfb> ipv4
[20:38] <leftyfb> ipv6 is disabled at the system level (sysctl and grub) so there's no ipv6 address on the interface in question
[20:38] <sarnold> leftyfb: if they're all negative responses, you could configure resolved to cache those, too; see resolved.conf(5)
[20:39] <leftyfb> sarnold: nope, we purposely set no-negative because we need that for other operations
[20:40] <sarnold> ah
[20:41] <sarnold> leftyfb: I couldn't find any easy examples on the dnsdist.org webpage but you could probably configure it to return servfail or nxdomain or something on AAAA records
[20:42] <leftyfb> oh, that's an idea. Let me see if I can dig up how to do that
[20:48] <TJ-> leftyfb: iptables module: https://github.com/oskar456/xt_dns
[20:48] <sarnold> TJ-: well that's kinda neat looking
[20:49] <TJ-> I thought it was in the archive
[20:49] <TJ-> realised it works since it's DKMS - had forgotten it was added
[20:51] <hoppity> Do you guys think there is a way to pass through the outside sounds through my headset internal mic to be able to hear when someon calls my name?
[20:52] <pasiz> hoppity: so you want to use mic as speaker+
[20:52] <TJ-> hoppity: you meant through the headset speakers?
[20:58] <leftyfb> hoppity: I think your question is well beyond the scope of this channel. You're looking at some custom voice recognition and announcement software. Sounds pretty possible though
[20:59] <hoppity> voice recognition?
[20:59] <hoppity> No, I just want to hear what my microphone hears
[21:00] <hoppity> I definitely did not explaine myself correctly :p sorry
[21:01] <TJ-> hoppity: you can configure a monitor on the microphone and mix it to the default output (Pulseaudio)
[21:01] <hoppity> TJ-: thank you
[21:01] <pasiz> hoppity: AI like wake word?
[21:02] <pasiz> like hey google, but wake word is your name
[21:02] <hoppity> pasiz: lol what? no AI, no intelligence
[21:02] <hoppity> just literally hear my mic in my headset so I can hear whats happening around me
[21:02] <pasiz> use open back headphones
[21:02] <hoppity> pasiz: too late for that plus having music playing wont let you hear really
[21:03] <TJ-> hoppity: see https://www.scivision.dev/loopback-audio-linux-pulseaudio/
[21:03] <hoppity> TJ-: thank you, you are truly the man with the answers
[21:04] <pasiz> so you bought insulating headphones and turn monitor on to make those like openback?
[21:04] <TJ-> hoppity: ahhh, that last link is the opposite of what you want
[21:04] <hoppity> pasiz: yes because I like to be difficult like that
[21:05] <hoppity> jk, I bought them for home, now I am using them at work and need to hear around me
[21:05] <hoppity> TJ-: lol it looked legit
[21:06] <TJ-> hoppity: this refers to 'line in' but where you read that, read instance 'microphone in' https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/263274/pipe-mix-line-in-to-output-in-pulseaudio
[21:06] <hoppity> TJ-: thank you, seems like the loopback module is what I need
[21:07] <shibboleth> TJ-, ping
[21:08] <TJ-> hoppity: definitive info: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/Modules/#module-loopback
[21:08] <TJ-> shibboleth: pong
[21:08] <hoppity> TJ-: damn, my deepest thanks TJ, you went above and beyond the line of duty
[21:09] <shibboleth> TJ-, i overwrote bobs spi/bios flash with a dump from alice (mostly, made sure the serials/MAC/etc were saved) and now the bob grub issue is kinda solved
[21:10] <shibboleth> as in, i no longer have to unload the tpm module
[21:10] <pasiz> would be nice gag on your work, pop a balloon near your head, when your mic is picking far sounds and playing out quite loud to get something reasonable output ;) Some limiter would be also be reasonable to implement.
[21:10] <shibboleth> so, my guess was likely correct: something about the efivars
[21:10] <TJ-> shibboleth: ouch!
[21:13] <shibboleth> now, how some odd efivar makes grub > 2.02-2ubuntu8.21 bork unless you unload the tpm module for me and several other, i really don't know
[21:13] <shibboleth> but, having two identical systems and the issue only affecting one was handy in my case
[21:14] <TJ-> shibboleth: that's one reason I always buy at least 2 of everything
[21:14] <TJ-> swap-out on failure, comparision, A/N testing
[21:15] <TJ-> errr, A/B testing too
[21:15] <shibboleth> you weren't hit with any divine revelation while debugging/bisecting on your end?
[21:16] <TJ-> no, not this time :)
[21:18] <shibboleth> well, i guess i'm glad that "solves" the issue for me, too bad about the some hundred other people (out of umpteen millions)
[21:20] <shibboleth> but seriously, the issue seems to have been triggered by the diff between 8.21 and 8.23
[22:00] <PeGaSuS> feedback: the installation in the external drive was successful and I just need to plug it in on another computer, boot from the external drive and I have Ubuntu running on another laptop :)
[22:01] <PeGaSuS> thanks for the pointers about where to install the bootloader and such
[22:32] <bluejaypop> I'm having a problem with certificates, just like: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K6W5pgTF3W/ how can it be solved?
[22:36] <sarnold> bluejaypop: try running this, maybe it'll give a similar error: openssl s_client -verify 2 -CApath /etc/ssl/certs/ -connect google.com.mx:443
[22:37] <sarnold> bluejaypop: here's what it looks like on my focal system https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rFhkR8qRDr/
[22:37] <bluejaypop> No client certificate CA names sent
[22:37] <bluejaypop> SSL handshake has read 4336 bytes and written 395 bytes
[22:37] <bluejaypop> Verification: OK
[22:38] <bluejaypop> yes it works
[22:44] <sarnold> bluejaypop: hmm okay. I kinda expected a failure :)
[22:45] <bluejaypop> sarnold, worked now with https://serverfault.com/a/979014/578479 on /etc/wgetrc
[22:47] <sarnold> bluejaypop: so strange :/ I wonder why you had to edit it
[22:47] <Guest75> Hi, using Lubuntu 20.04 LTS, when I use a VPN, my wifi disconnects randomly. But without a VPN my wifi is fine, I wonder why the VPN affects my wifi?
[22:47] <pasiz> it keeps constant traffic
[22:47] <pasiz> without it you won't notice ber
[22:48] <Guest75> wym?
[22:48] <bluejaypop> sarnold, I did openssl version -d  and I got: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cvgKK8yWpv/
[22:48] <bluejaypop> that could be related
[22:50] <sarnold> bluejaypop: waaaaaat
[22:50] <bluejaypop> i think a repository had a different openssl package and upgrading it mesed up the OPENSSLDIR
[22:51] <sarnold> that 'el6' sure makes it feel like a rhel6 thing
[22:52] <sarnold> bluejaypop: that would certainly do it.. your dpkg -l openssl output should match one of these version numbers https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl
[22:53] <bluejaypop> yea i have this one: ii  openssl        1.1.1f-1ubuntu2.4 amd64        Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - cryptographic utility
[22:55] <bluejaypop> i reinstalled but i get the same
[22:56] <sarnold> bluejaypop: okay, how about debsums -as openssl libssl1.1   ?
[22:58] <bluejaypop> sarnold,  let me try
[22:58] <bluejaypop> debsums: changed file /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf (from openssl package)
[22:59] <bluejaypop> but i did that, i was checking the config
[22:59] <bluejaypop> but, nothing was changed
[22:59] <sarnold> hmm, I wonder where that 'el6' path came from then :/
[23:00] <bluejaypop> what is shown on your installation ?
[23:00] <sarnold> $ openssl version -d
[23:00] <sarnold> OPENSSLDIR: "/usr/lib/ssl"
[23:00] <bluejaypop> damn
[23:03] <bluejaypop> you know, i have another pc and i ran the same, and I got almost the same output on OPENSSLDIR but is working okay that pc, so i dont understand now
[23:07] <bluejaypop> i had to do a symbolic link to that path, later i will find out what the problem is
[23:07] <bluejaypop> thanks sarnold for your help.
[23:07] <sarnold> bluejaypop: crazy. good luck :)
[23:07] <bluejaypop> hehe, thx
[23:56] <captcavejerk> t