[00:31] <dman777> is it possible to install xinit without pulling in gnome?
[00:38] <Bashing-om> dman777: one can download xinit: https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/xinit - please observe that a term of some flavor is required.
[00:41] <dman777> Bashing-om: when I try to apt-get install xinit it pulls in gnome stuff... but that page you showed me doesn't list gnome as a depends
[00:44] <Bashing-om> dman777: ' apt depends xinit ' also does not show the gnome dependencies :(
[00:46] <dman777> ok, thanks. maybe it is something else
[00:47] <Bashing-om> dman777: Pulling in some "recommends" >> gnome-session ??
[01:24] <Xunie> I'm trying to measure my program with 'perf'. But 'perf' requires one of the linux-tools packages to be installed with (what I presume are) kernel modules. Which package (other than the one for my kernel version) is right for me?
[01:27] <HickorySmokedBac> What's the latest LTS?
[01:28] <HickorySmokedBac> And how much longer does it have
[01:28] <HickorySmokedBac> sees 20.04 is the LTS?
[01:28] <HickorySmokedBac> seems
[01:28] <Saxle> Yes HickorySmokedBac 20.04
[01:28] <HickorySmokedBac> Saxle: Is it worth messing with replacing CentOS (IE: new install)
[01:29] <HickorySmokedBac> Or am I going to have to come back pretty soon and install a new version anyway?
[01:29] <HickorySmokedBac> (how long does the current LTS have left)
[01:29] <Saxle> I never used that, but you can always just boot off of a live usb and test it out HickorySmokedBac
[01:29] <HickorySmokedBac> Saxle: I'm just wondering how long before I'll be updating the OS if I go LTS
[01:30] <HickorySmokedBac> Kind of want to take an aint broke don't fix it , use it when I need it, backup, kinda approach to these old machines laying around
[01:30] <Saxle> 4/2025 I think
[01:30] <HickorySmokedBac> Oh, sounds good enough for me.
[01:31] <HickorySmokedBac> Got an E2160 and skylake Celeron laying around.
[01:31] <HickorySmokedBac> I need to take off CentOS
[01:32] <HickorySmokedBac> been thinking about doing that to this main machine ..
[01:32] <Saxle> Ubuntu is pretty good and stable.
[01:32] <HickorySmokedBac> Since I haven't been gaming as much as I used to
[01:32] <HickorySmokedBac> and cryptocurrency ruined PC gaming
[01:33] <HickorySmokedBac> $180 card -> 350-450
[01:33] <HickorySmokedBac> naw
[01:33] <HickorySmokedBac> But anyway, yeah I'll try Lubuntu LTS
[01:34] <Bashing-om> HickorySmokedBac: current 20.04 == released April of '20; 5 years support == April 2005.
[01:34] <HickorySmokedBac> Bashing-om: 2105?
[01:34] <HickorySmokedBac> er
[01:34] <HickorySmokedBac> 2025
[01:35] <Saxle> 2005
[01:35] <Saxle> nice
[01:35] <Bashing-om> HickorySmokedBac: Lubuntu has 3 year desk top support cycle. Main does retain 5 years.
[01:35] <HickorySmokedBac> Saxle: Wish we could go back.. David Letterman was still on TV :D
[01:35] <Saxle> haha
[01:35] <HickorySmokedBac> So many people alive that aren't..
[01:36] <HickorySmokedBac> Bashing-om: Oh, Perhaps I'll use the main one then
[01:36] <Saxle> Early Ubuntu is much different than now, gnome 2 and simplified.
[01:36] <HickorySmokedBac> Bashing-om: was wanting something easy on hardware
[01:36] <HickorySmokedBac> Specially that old stuff
[01:42] <HickorySmokedBac> Sheesh, 3 GBs
[01:42] <HickorySmokedBac> Guess I aint got nothing to do for a while
[01:42] <Saxle> Got slow internet?
[01:43] <HickorySmokedBac> 10 Mbps
[01:43] <Saxle> Not too bad
[01:43] <HickorySmokedBac> For $10 a month with 1TB cap, and around here.. no.
[01:43] <Saxle> Cap on Internet is crazy
[01:43] <HickorySmokedBac> It's that or pay Suddenlink/Altice One for 400 Mbps at about $143 a month
[01:44] <HickorySmokedBac> I told them to come pick that up
[01:44] <HickorySmokedBac> And went to streaming TV
[01:44] <HickorySmokedBac> and DSL
[01:44] <HickorySmokedBac> aint nobody got time fo dat
[01:45] <HickorySmokedBac> Hulu + Philo + DSL = about 45
[01:45] <HickorySmokedBac> Plus Altice One wanted to record some channels in SAP  (Spanish)
[01:45] <HickorySmokedBac> and be out 40% of the day
[01:45] <HickorySmokedBac> I said naw , you come pick this $143 junk up
[02:41] <Zenen> hey all! I'm trying to configure a Raspberry Pi as an independent 2-in-1 wifi access point and webpage. I've got it mostly set up but I'm curious about how I might add custom DNS entries so that I can map my webpage as a domain name rather than an IP address.
[02:43] <Zenen> Anyone got an idea of how I can resolve a human readable domain name to a local IP?
[02:47] <rfm> Zenen, if it's just for the local net its easiest to use mDNS and .local names.  Ubuntu is usually set up for this, if not install and run avahi-daemon, and install libnss-mdns
[02:48] <Zenen> Nice! .local seems like it would work, not ideal but this is a pretty quick-and-dirty first draft
[02:49] <Zenen> thanks for the initial direction rfm
[03:38] <guy_frm_yogaland> hello every1
[03:39] <guy_frm_yogaland> I need to create a shell script on ubuntu which would download and install a particular software automatically when run the script
[03:40] <guy_frm_yogaland> there is a github repo url used with api.github.com, I need to search and download a particular version and platform build of that software, how can I do that?
[03:40] <guy_frm_yogaland> I tried with wget
[04:05] <leftyfb> guy_frm_yogaland: try #bash
[04:07] <guy_frm_yogaland> the url is this: https://api.github.com/repos/VSCodium/vscodium/releases/latest
[04:07] <guy_frm_yogaland> and the one which I want to download is : latest-x64 amd
[04:07] <guy_frm_yogaland> .deb file
[04:07] <guy_frm_yogaland> I got a code but it dows not work proerly
[04:08] <guy_frm_yogaland> please see this: wget -q -O /tmp/vscodium.deb $(wget -O- -q https://api.github.com/repos/VSCodium/vscodium/releases/latest | grep browser_download_url | cut -d '"' -f 4 | grep "amd64.deb") && sudo apt -f install /tmp/vscodium.deb && rm /tmp/vscodium.deb
[05:07] <alkisg> Try grep -o codium.*amd64.deb
[08:09] <guestalzgh> Hi, I'm on an Ubuntu Focal. I tried to use a vpn and it messed up my dns settings. Name resolution doesn't work. General connectivity works (ip pin). Have tried what I could but didn't find the problem. Can someone help me trouble shoot please?
[08:22] <pasiz> guestalzgh: could you pastebin "ip a" and "ip route"
[08:23] <guestalzgh> yes, just a sec
[08:23] <pasiz> and "cat /etc/resolv.conf"
[08:24] <guestalzgh> `ip a` https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FC9Rs2V5Ck/
[08:25] <guestalzgh> `ip route` https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fkzZQxvqdW/
[08:26] <guestalzgh> `cat /etc/resolv.conf` https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Trmmc3KZPw/
[08:28] <pasiz> guestalzgh: everything seems ok
[08:28] <pasiz> have you rebooted after messing up
[08:28] <guestalzgh> name resolution does not work
[08:28] <guestalzgh> yes, several times
[08:28] <pasiz> do you have dig installed
[08:29] <guestalzgh> the dns lookup utility?
[08:29] <guestalzgh> yes
[08:29] <pasiz> and does name "localhost" resolve
[08:29] <pasiz> what "dig www.google.com" gives
[08:29] <guestalzgh> "localhost" resolves
[08:30] <guestalzgh> "timed out", "connection times out; no servers could be reached"
[08:31] <pasiz> what "dig localhost" gives
[08:31] <pasiz> response should come in SERVER: 127.0.0.53#53(127.0.0.53)
[08:31] <guestalzgh> `dig localhost` https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CMNMkZRMj5/
[08:32] <pasiz> seems that your systemd resolver doesn't see configured dns
[08:32] <guestalzgh> But here's the funny thing `dig @8.8.8.8 google.com` https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jJyjWvr9w4/
[08:33] <guestalzgh> If I give the dns server explicitly it works
[08:33] <pasiz> guestalzgh: that is normal if your ip connectivity is good
[08:33] <guestalzgh> true
[08:33] <pasiz> then it doesn't try to resolve it true your internal dns
[08:33] <guestalzgh> systemd resolver is messed up
[08:33] <pasiz> is your link dhcp on enp4s0
[08:34] <pasiz> yes it is
[08:35] <pasiz> do you use networkmanager configuration in gui (gnome settings app)
[08:35] <guestalzgh> yes, previously I used Gnome, know plasma
[08:36] <pasiz> now you use kde?
[08:36] <guestalzgh> yes
[08:36] <guestalzgh> but have also Gnome, can login there if it helps trouble shoot
[08:36] <pasiz> but you configured everything via gui, not command line
[08:36] <guestalzgh> Before this mess, I made mostly through Gui
[08:36] <guestalzgh> The vpn messed dns
[08:37] <guestalzgh> Then I made some tweeks through command line to solve
[08:37] <pasiz> what vpn you try to use
[08:37] <guestalzgh> protonvpn
[08:38] <pasiz> could you cat /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
[08:38] <guestalzgh> yes
[08:39] <pasiz> i have some hurry, so please be quick
[08:39] <guestalzgh> `/etc/systemd/resolved.conf` https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/by3qw8h5jG/
[08:47] <pasiz> you could try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf"
[08:48] <guestalzgh> will do, just a sec
[08:48] <pasiz> and allow dynamic updates
[08:48] <pasiz> after that reboot
[08:48] <guestalzgh> `dpkg-query: package 'resolvconf' is not installed and no information is available`
[08:49] <guestalzgh> I have `resolvectl`
[08:49] <guestalzgh> can I use that instead?
[08:49] <pasiz> sorry, misspelled
[08:49] <pasiz> ues
[08:49] <pasiz> yes
[08:50] <guestalzgh> OK
[08:51] <guestalzgh> `dpkg-query: package 'resolvectl' is not installed and no information is available`
[08:51] <guestalzgh> Still get the same error
[08:52] <pasiz> is your /etc/resolv.conf a symbolic link to /run
[08:53] <guestalzgh> yes
[08:53] <guestalzgh> `lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 Jul 18 00:30 /etc/resolv.conf -> /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf`
[08:53] <guestalzgh> you want my `systemctl` output?
[08:54] <pasiz> resolvectl status
[08:54] <Guest5> sorry, I was disconnected
[08:54] <pasiz> no problem
[08:54] <pasiz> i asked resolvectl status
[08:55] <Guest5> OK
[08:56] <Guest5> `resolvectl status` https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8WGYdjhxHC/
[08:56] <willy> hi
[08:57] <pasiz> your enp4s0 is unconfigured
[08:57] <pasiz> last lines on that
[08:57] <pasiz> now i need to go
[08:58] <pasiz> afk
[08:58] <Guest5> I added dns to it using resolvectl but didn't work
[08:58] <willy> please, i installed ubuntu 18.04 on my macbook pro. my pc now freezes randomly. need help
[08:58] <Guest5> sure, thank you
[08:58] <Guest5> pasiz
[08:58] <pasiz> willy: your pc is affected when you installed ubuntu on macbook
[08:59] <pasiz> i think some sort of wizardry is only hope if another machine is affected of install
[09:00] <pasiz> Guest5: hope you get that sorted out
[09:00] <willy> what do you mean affected
[09:00] <Guest5> thanks pasiz
[09:01] <pasiz> willy: i understand you have pc and macbook, you installed ubuntu on your macbook and your pc began to freeze randomly
[09:01] <pasiz> but now --> afk
[09:01] <willy> sorry, my macbook is freezing randomly
[09:01] <willy> i only have a macbook
[09:02] <willy> i installed ubuntu on my macbook
[09:30] <willy> i installed ubuntu on my macbook pro. The ubuntu freezes randomly. need help
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> willy: best to share logs of the freezes so volunteers can take a look
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> willy: aka dmesg or journal logs
[10:27] <delsy> a
[10:45] <spinningcat> hey there
[10:46] <spinningcat> i have gforce rtx card and ubuntu does not have driver for it. What should i do?
[11:24] <Guest5> Hi, I'm on Ubuntu focal. Ran protonvpn and it messed up my name resolution. pinging ips works but not domain names. I'm at my wits end. Really appreciate if someone could help me trouble shoot. Thanks a lot
[12:16] <alzgh> O God, I'm back.
[12:16] <alzgh> Finally name resolution solved
[12:45] <webchat15> Hi. I am looking for help with PATH set in different type of shells. I am confused and can't find answers or may be not understanding the concepts.
[12:45] <webchat15> I will be grateful if someone can help me out
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> !path | webchat15
[12:46] <VIA> foods
[12:46] <webchat15> That is the issue actually. I tell it the path but it is not recognizing it.
[12:47] <webchat15> I have done it in .profile and /etc/profile but it is not picking it up. Don't know why.
[12:50] <webchat15> I also want it to sustain in all not-interactive not-login shells but it is not even after exporting it.
[13:06] <rapid16> Anyone know of Oniguruma package? I've installed libonig5 and libonig-dev, but configure script still doesn't see it
[13:34] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:23] <alzgh> reading man pages I don't understand the numbers that come in parentheses after a command. Like `git-add(1)`, or `nss(5)`, `nss-resolve(8)`, etc.
[15:23] <alzgh> Can someone explain and/or point me to a good read?
[15:25] <ogra> alzgh, that's the categories ... see "man man" 😉
[15:25] <alzgh> lol
[15:26] <cbreak> alzgh: man 8 nss-resolve / man 5 nss
[15:26] <shadow255> alzgh: short and sweet here: https://www.december.com/unix/ref/mansec.html
[15:26] <shadow255> but man man is definitely a place to learn too
[15:28] <alzgh> thank you all
[16:14] <alzgh> I was wondering what would be a good hands on book to learn linux networking that also goes good with Ubuntu
[16:14] <alzgh> My recent experience with my Ubuntu showed me that I know nothing and I need to do something about it.
[16:18] <ThinkT510> what are you stuck on?
[16:18] <alzgh> I messed up my name resolution trying to set up vpn and took me about a day to solve it and didn't had a clue.
[16:19] <alzgh> I don't know how linux networks (or networks in general) work from ground up
[16:19] <alzgh> Just picked up small things here and there
[16:20] <alzgh> was looking into reading a book (preferably hands on with lots of exercises) to learn some fundamentals
[16:20] <alzgh> I'm not sure what book is good
[16:20] <alzgh> Or if reading a books is even good for what I'm looking for.
[16:23] <leftyfb> alzgh: it seems a little lame at first, but this guy eventually brings you though some decent stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbEx7B_PTOE
[16:24] <ThinkT510> alzgh: maybe experimenting with some VMs might help if you want a more hands on approach
[16:26] <alzgh> Today, deployed a mongo-express on local kubernetes today and connected it to a mongodb server that I'm hosting on my local machine and had exposed on the internet through ngrok.
[16:26] <alzgh> I play with these stuff a little bit, but I don't have the fundamentals.
[16:27] <alzgh> thanks leftyfb
[16:28] <leftyfb> alzgh: this is the book that got me started: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/0596007604
[16:29] <alzgh> thanks, gonna check that out
[16:30] <physikoi> Hello. How does one build/install firefox on ubuntu server without sudo? thanks
[16:31] <alkisg> You can download and unzip the upstream tarball
[16:32] <alkisg> Its already compiled
[16:32] <tomreyn> or just install the package? or does it pull in too many dependencies?
[16:35] <tomreyn> (you can use "equivs" to work around dependencies which are not strictly required)
[16:38] <physikoi> hey alkisg: are you referring to these: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/? I've tried https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/90.0/linux-x86_64/en-US/, decompressing into ~/firefox, but when i execute the binary i get "Segmentation Fault" as the only output.
[16:38] <physikoi> tomreyn: i don't think i can install in the regular way as I don't have sudo privileges
[16:39] <alkisg> You said Ubuntu server, is xorg running?
[16:41] <alkisg> Also, which Ubuntu version?
[16:44] <physikoi> checking
[16:44] <physikoi> Description:    Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS
[16:44] <physikoi> Release:        18.04
[16:44] <physikoi> Codename:       bionic
[16:45] <physikoi> hardware is x86_64
[16:45] <alkisg> Does `xrandr` show a list of resolutions?
[16:46] <physikoi> no, just 'can't open display'
[16:46] <alkisg> To run graphical applications, you need a graphical connection
[16:46] <physikoi> i don't think xorg is running
[16:46] <alkisg> How are you connected to this server?
[16:46] <physikoi> do i need xorg? i only need to run in headless mode
[16:46] <physikoi> over ssh
[16:47] <alkisg> Connect with `ssh -X` then
[16:47] <physikoi> trying
[16:47] <alkisg> Then, run `xrandr` and verify that you get a list of resolutions
[16:47] <alkisg> THEN try to run the firefox that you downloaded
[16:48] <physikoi> Hm, with `ssh -X `, i'm getting "Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not generated" warning. I'll try to figure out what that's about
[16:49] <alkisg> Maybe the server admins do not allow xorg forwarding
[16:52] <physikoi> you are probably right. it's "shared" hosting. definitely time to upgrade to VPS
[16:52] <cbreak> man xauth
[16:52] <cbreak> you should be able to do something with nlist / nmerge I think
[16:53] <physikoi> tried ssh -Y, slightly different error: "Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding.
[16:53] <physikoi> X11 forwarding request failed on channel 0"
[16:54] <physikoi> gotta go though. thanks for your help, but i must depart (running client locally on a laptop ... d'oh). thanks again
[16:54] <physikoi> thanks y'all
[16:54] <alkisg> Sometimes you can just cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config to see if they allow it or not
[16:54] <alkisg> Cheers
[16:54] <physikoi> thanks. /part cheers
[18:08] <ash_worksi> what do you do to swap caps lock and ctrl?
[18:15] <coconut> ash_worksi, gnome-tweaks has some settings for that
[18:17] <holgersson> for KDE it's somewhere in systemsettings5
[18:17] <holgersson> (keyboard configuration)
[18:17] <ash_worksi> coconut: is that the community preferred way rather than something like `setxkbmap` (which I see  lot of but appears to have problems
[18:18] <coconut> ash_worksi, dunno... just knew it was somewhere inside gnome-tweaks
[18:18] <ash_worksi> coconut: is that something you do?
[18:19] <coconut> ash_worksi, no i send my old happy hacking away so i do not use ctrl anymore...
[18:19] <ash_worksi> coconut: hows that?
[18:19] <coconut> ash_worksi, just did not used it much
[18:20] <ash_worksi> copy paste?
[18:20] <coconut> no for vi, but that was not easy enough for me
[18:21] <ash_worksi> mutliplexer prefix? vi block select? copying/pasting text from a site?
[18:22] <coconut> no i only used it for vi
[18:23] <ash_worksi> so you just never need to copy/paste stuff from a site anymore?
[18:23] <coconut> oh sure i do, but my keyboard layout doesn't lack imo
[18:24] <ash_worksi> coconut: so what do you do to do that if not ctrl+XCV ?
[18:25] <coconut> i never said to not use ctrl for copying txt
[18:26] <ash_worksi> thanks coconut
[18:34] <greek> ash_worksi: you helped me with that link for remote ssh right?
[19:22] <dman777> I am trying to install compiz-fusion but some the dependencies pull in gnome desktop manager. Is there a setting in ubuntu where I can make a hard stop to installing gnome desktop?
[19:25] <bigpod> i dont think so these are dependancies set in packages themselfs
[19:30] <chatman> hoi
[19:46] <coconut> dman777, what package are you installing? You can try installing by apt with no recommend and/or no suggest options.
[19:47] <coconut> but that only works when package is not part of depends
[19:50] <oerheks> compiz-fusion .. maybe not.. on what ubuntu version, dman777 ?
[20:03] <Guest42> hello is this the new freenode, active?
[20:04] <oerheks> this will never be the new freenode, hi guest
[20:04] <mN-> rip freenode
[20:05] <oerheks> Do you have an ubuntu support issue?
[20:05] <mN->  Is it possible to see memory junction temperature for nvidia gpus on ubuntu/ ?
[20:06] <oerheks> what is 'memory junction temperature'?
[20:08] <mN-> temperature of say a geforce rtx 3080s  memory junction module. The gpu can be 42C while the memory can be 100C so it would be nice to follow how it rises with overclocking
[20:08] <mN-> on windows it can be seen with HWinfo
[20:09] <oerheks> ah i see, it is indeed a new temp stack, HWINFO64
[20:10] <mN-> GDDR6X memory runs very hot, so it is in interest to know temps
[20:11] <mN-> micron says the upper limit should be 95C/105C
[20:11] <oerheks> i see a request for nvidia-smi tool support https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/request-gpu-memory-junction-temperature-via-nvidia-smi-or-nvml-api/168346
[20:11] <oerheks> i do not own such new hardware, but as far as i can see, not supported yet
[20:12] <mN-> alright, thanks
[20:33] <coconut> dman777, still here?
[21:55] <Intelo> I  use ubuntu, can I convert my monitor into touchscren monitoer?
[21:56] <DrManhattan> Yes
[21:58] <Intelo> DrManhattan how?
[22:01] <Intelo>  I cannot  find an affordable touchscreen with 24" and 120+ hz refresh rate. I guess I have to use something like greentouch (glass panel that makes normal monitors as touch)? Or do I have another option?
[22:03] <DrManhattan> Intelo, you'll have to use an add-on. There's no magic way to make a monitor into a touchscreen
[22:04] <oerheks> no magical plugin indeed :-D
[22:04] <Intelo> oerheks DrManhattan ya thats fine but what exactly is needed?
[22:05] <DrManhattan> Looks like you've got a better idea than anyone else at this point
[22:05] <oerheks> your monitor must be capable, not sure there are 120hrz with that option
[22:05] <oerheks> and affordable.. i hate fingers on my screen
[22:06] <DrManhattan> There are frames that go on some monitors which will mimic a touchscreen
[23:38] <dman777> coc0nut: yes