[11:27] <daftykins> happy Monday!
[11:34] <daftykins> hrmm, sometimes i despair... arranged an 11am appointment with a client to handle their broadband upgrade, moving them from ADSL to VDSL today and their current router is not capable so told them they'd be offline
[11:34] <daftykins> guy texts me at 10am "we have no internet! i can't do any work! RAH RAH RAH!"
[11:35] <zxm-pi> you'll be down toot sweet with a bunch of ip packets in a bucket he can use
[11:35] <daftykins> :D
[11:35] <zxm-pi> pigeons are on back order
[11:38] <zxm-pi> or blow dust off the old modem you still have squirreled away and put them on dial up for a day or two. :-P
[11:39] <daftykins> hehe
[11:40] <daftykins> as much as i don't like the Draytek kit, it does seem pretty capable - it had a 'WAN2' LAN port so i took down a VDSL transceiver (Huawei HG612) and plugged it into the telephone line instead, then configured the Draytek to do the PPPoE auth using the new login on WAN2, easy peasy
[11:40] <daftykins> they're only getting 26 Mb sync on an area that should reach 100 Mb though, very very poor
[11:41] <daftykins> *in an area
[11:41] <zxm-pi> guy buys dell, doesn't know anything about pcs. isn't happy as it doesn't have things he thought were standard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR25BVBsuS0
[11:41] <zxm-pi> wifi, ssd's
[11:41] <daftykins> that sounds like it might be painful viewing
[11:42] <daftykins> clients of mine always seem to think desktops will be WiFi capable
[11:42] <zxm-pi> it's kinda funny, but to be honest i see it as a self inflicted wound. i know nothing about cars, if i wanted to buy a car i'd have someone who does at my side
[11:43] <daftykins> indeedy
[11:43] <zxm-pi> and as rusty as my skills are atm i'd be double checking that it had hhd or ssd and that wifi and bt were included out of the box
[11:43] <daftykins> and then immediately forego them for a lovely network cable
[11:43] <zxm-pi> pretty much :-)
[11:44] <zxm-pi> if god had wanted us to use wifi, he wouldn't have given us coax :-D
[11:44] <daftykins> hehehe
[11:47] <zxm-pi> you never know when you'll want to abseil out the top story window to escape :-)
[11:48] <daftykins> ok i only made it a few seconds in, he admitted it was all his fault and then said he ordered "the top of the line XPS processor"
[11:49] <zxm-pi> dell advertising blurb at work
[11:49] <daftykins> nah XPS is just the range, so it's that guy being a bit derp
[11:49] <zxm-pi> whawe've all been there. what browser do you use? ms word!
[11:50] <daftykins> finest of all!
[15:26] <daftykins> one iMac obtained, cor it's slow as wading through molasses on the original 1TB 2.5" HDD
[17:30] <m0nkey_> I've been trying to convince my parents to upgrade their computer, it's an old iMac from 2009. I did a memory upgrade on it a couple years ago, but now it's showing it's age. 
[17:30] <daftykins> ah wow that's exactly the age one i am going to offer to replace with this one, previously did RAM + SSD but core 2 duo's are just far too rubbish now
[17:32] <m0nkey_> The thing still works, so I can see their point about not changing what works.
[17:33] <m0nkey_> My next visit, I'm taking my dad to a computer store to buy parts to build a new system.
[17:33] <daftykins> heh, EOL OS + unsafe online though
[17:33] <m0nkey_> Is Novatech still around? lol
[17:36] <m0nkey_> yup, they are
[17:37] <m0nkey_> and god damn.. i thought PC components were expensive here.. boy, you guys have it rough
[17:37] <daftykins> what neck o' the woods are your folks in?
[17:37] <m0nkey_> West Sussex
[17:37] <daftykins> ah yeah so that would be a nice close place, one of my pals from early IRC days + Uni time in Portsmouth worked at novatech for a bit
[17:39] <m0nkey_> I used to work for IBM, had to visit North Harbour and that's how I learned about Novatech.
[17:41] <daftykins> if you have any old contacts there, have you asked them first-hand how the email migration is going? xD
[17:41] <m0nkey_> buhahah
[17:41] <m0nkey_> not well
[17:42] <m0nkey_> i used to like the old Notes/Domino set-up. It worked well.
[17:42] <daftykins> never seen!
[17:43] <m0nkey_> I used to run something called NotesBuddy, to avoid running the full Notes client because it was a pig. 
[17:43] <m0nkey_> Heh, and all the C4EB crap.
[17:45] <m0nkey_> Had funky names for everything, including the network, which was called the "Power9" network
[17:46] <m0nkey_> Which was basically the 9.0.0.0/8 subnet
[17:46] <daftykins> and woe be thee if you connected a system running a different microarch? :D
[17:47] <m0nkey_> actually, they typically didn't care what was connected
[17:47] <m0nkey_> because it was your responsibility to make sure it was safe to connect
[17:47] <m0nkey_> may not be like that now
[17:48] <m0nkey_> when I was there, they gave me a workstation and told me I could do whatever I want.. run Windows, Linux or even OS/2 at the time .. yeesh.
[17:49] <m0nkey_> I just ran NT4 at the time, because that was what I was working with the most then.. mmm.. nation wide NT4 domain, PDC at the DC and BDCs at every site
[17:50] <m0nkey_> you can imagine the fun each time we introduced a new BDC to an NT4 domain. It would force an election which would often cause the just promoted BDC which didn't have any login scripts set-up or anything would become the master browser lol
[17:55] <daftykins> always avoided domains personally :) all my clients are small enough that peer to peer is grand
[17:57] <m0nkey_> IBM was smart enough not to run any kind of domain, NT or Novell NDS
[17:57] <m0nkey_> but oh man, i miss the days of Novell NDS. pre-AD goodness. loved it
[17:57] <m0nkey_> also.. 
[17:58] <m0nkey_> fire phasers 3
[17:58] <m0nkey_> *pew* *pew* *pew* lol
[18:32] <daftykins> 18:58 < m0nkey_> fire phasers 3
[18:32] <daftykins> oops paste fail
[18:32] <daftykins> https://imgur.com/a/49HVF0u
[18:55] <daftykins> ah drat, ifixit won't sell to me anymore
[19:04] <zxm-pi> not british enough?
[19:05] <zxm-pi> that imac is quite clean for a 6yo computer
[19:05] <daftykins> there's a lot of dust in the fan there and on the PCBs
[19:05] <daftykins> yeah ifixit EU doesn't have Guernsey - and ifixit UK is refusing a local postcode
[19:07] <zxm-pi> don't you have a uk postal thingy that pretends to be british and then smuggles it to the islands under cloak of darkness?
[19:08] <daftykins> yeah but that'd double the cost of this kinda item
[19:08] <daftykins> hrmm ebay seems to have an identical one for 1/3rd the cost of ifixit https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224509173987
[19:09] <zxm-pi> right time for daily walk.... o/
[19:09] <daftykins> enjoy!