[11:03] <bigcalm> o/
[12:10] <zxm-pi> \o
[12:12] <m0nkey_> AND DANCE! \o\ |o| /o/ /o\
[12:26] <bigcalm> Too hot to dance
[12:27] <zxm-pi> too hot to lie in the dark drinking cold drinks and setting big fan to 11 but i'm doing it anyway
[13:08] <zxm-pi> 3+ mins for bezos launch
[14:22] <daftykins> i'm melting
[14:24]  * zxm-pi slides the box of choc-ices across with 2m bargepole
[14:25] <daftykins> :D
[14:25] <daftykins> ta!
[14:25] <daftykins> i've been to my wealthy client's 2 town places today, took the 5G trial router from the current one (leaving him with his fixed line VDSL) and put it on the top floor of the new place, the other side of the same town mobile tower
[14:25] <zxm-pi> even a big box of coolpops won't take much freezer space and is a nice icey treat on days like today
[14:25] <daftykins> still works well, 220 Mb down and 30 Mb up
[14:26] <zxm-pi> and back to a 2400 baud modem if there are any more complaints about things he's been told will happen :-P
[14:27] <daftykins> haha, different guy thankfully
[14:27] <daftykins> had a meeting with the cabling guy, he's going to go with OM4 fiber between the house and end of garden storage room we want to link up
[14:27] <daftykins> just got to await a quote now
[14:29] <zxm-pi> the garden storage room from where you can launch a cyber attack on the whole world ::manical laugh:: an evil overlord has to start somewhere i guess :-D
[14:29] <daftykins> shh don't let slip ;) heh yeah it'll be where the Pi army lives
[14:30] <zxm-pi> pi army gives totally the wrong impression. the pi freedom force! go go pi force!
[14:39] <daftykins> \o/
[14:43] <zxm-pi> filmed in supermarianation, with an awesome opening theme. anything can happen once we reboot!
[14:43] <daftykins> hmm just need to come up with a logo
[14:44] <zxm-pi> a slice of rasp pi with the filling a matrix grid of purple numbers
[15:01]  * diddledan melts
[15:02] <diddledan> my chocolate is all squidgy - I'm gonna have to put it in the fridge
[15:02] <daftykins> nooooo!
[15:02] <daftykins> that reminds me, i've got a yorkie in my bag
[15:03] <zxm-pi> you're going to drink it anyway :-P
[15:04] <daftykins> i'm in the ground floor of my place today, with the big thick granite walls - quite nice in this heat as it stays cool
[15:04] <diddledan> not fair
[15:04]  * zxm-pi digs out a cool pop and puts it in front of the 5" fan beside my keyboard to cool the air hitting me till it's liquid enough to drink cold
[15:22]  * diddledan goes get a magnum
[15:24] <daftykins> imagine our surprise when you don't return with an ice cream
[15:28] <daftykins> zxm-pi: got the script outline for Pi Force episode #1 sorted: https://imgur.com/gallery/iUxXifA
[15:29] <diddledan> is that wine?
[15:30] <daftykins> norra clue, to fit my line i like to imagine it's fruity
[15:32] <diddledan> it's over 9000 (30C)
[15:32] <diddledan> my thermomomometer says it's 31C in here
[15:32] <daftykins> D:
[15:33] <daftykins> how are your home servers?
[15:33] <diddledan> toasty
[15:33] <daftykins> dare i check on my pal's one in Exeter? xD
[15:48] <zxm-pi> mid 20s here. it's hell
[16:22] <m0nkey_> 30C, pffft. 
[16:22] <m0nkey_> We got a cool day over here in Montreal, 23C now and should peak around 24C. 
[17:00] <m0nkey_> there must be a better way.. *sigh*
[17:00] <m0nkey_> dave@ubuntu:~$ cat .ssh/known_hosts | wc -l
[17:00] <m0nkey_> 224
[17:00] <diddledan> known_hosts has never once told me about a key mismatch that was malicious
[17:01] <m0nkey_> No, that's not mismatched
[17:01] <diddledan> it's always been "I reinstalled that box"
[17:01] <m0nkey_> That 224 legit hosts
[17:01] <diddledan> "... quit bugging me about it!"
[17:01] <m0nkey_> I need some kind of SSH connection manager so I can group hosts and stuff
[17:03] <diddledan> how many times have you actually verified the key you saved to known_hosts was the expected key?? we just connect anyway in the first case and as soon as it complains the key changed we `ssh-keygen -R host.example.com` and try again
[17:04] <m0nkey_> we dont
[17:05] <m0nkey_> I went to a talk by Michael W Lucas at BSDCan in 2018 I think, all about SSH, how to manage keys, verify hosts, etc. none of which is really put into practice. I picked up a copy of his book SSH Mastery. I need to implement some of that stuff myself. I especially like the CA type key management.
[17:06] <m0nkey_> here's the talk i went to.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVT7sepck68
[17:09]  * diddledan will watch
[17:09] <daftykins> i had a key change on one of my 20.04 VMs the other day, bit weird... didn't really know how to dig into it, only thing that had changed is i had powered off to update XCP-ng
[17:09] <daftykins> so shutdown, update host, reboot, boot VMs
[17:19] <diddledan> might be the old key was generated using a potentially vulnerable mechanism? debian derivatives had something like that several years ago
[17:20] <diddledan> 32C
[17:22] <m0nkey_> Remind you of anything? https://twitter.com/AndrewPaulJoyce/status/1417477293069438979
[17:23] <diddledan> someone else thought captain picard attempt
[17:24] <daftykins> first thought was updates, but no other machine was affected, virtual or otherwise
[17:25] <daftykins> m0nkey_: Tracey Island? ;)
[17:54] <m0nkey_> something like that lol
[18:55] <m0nkey_> i need a soldering iron.. suggestions?
[18:55] <m0nkey_> just to do some light soldering, but i want a fairly fine tip