[01:39] <mwhudson> vorlon: do you (or anyone else again) have any instant thoughts about this sort of thing? https://git.launchpad.net/~mwhudson/livecd-rootfs/+git/livecd-rootfs/commit/?id=7bb420a2b2fd4fe59eb368c5cba29f5ed64de285
[09:48] <slyon> ddstreet: hey! how do we usually handle systemd SRUs? Is it OK if I just stage a pending change in the ~ubuntu-core-dev packaging git repo? (for focal & hirsute)
[11:03] <laney> sil2100: you know bileto's proposed-migration... how often does it re-run to collect test results?
[11:04] <laney> I would have expected 4580 by now
[11:15] <laney> no WAIT, there it is
[13:12] <ddstreet> slyon sure feel free to push into the repo
[13:15] <slyon> ddstreet: cool! I did that and SRUified the corresponding bug report. Has there been any specific cadence of systemd SRUs in the past? Or is it just "whenever we have a bunch of fixes together"?
[13:16] <ddstreet> nothing official, but i got into a roughly 1/month cycle
[13:16] <ddstreet> we can change it to something official if you want
[13:27] <vorlon> mwhudson: no strong opinions on helper binaries, though I think you ought to prepend the path rather than append for consistency with the majority of existing invocations
[14:14] <slyon> ddstreet: okay, thanks! no need to change it, I just wanted to be aware of it :)
[16:24] <rbasak> kanashiro: I still don't follow in bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/targetcli-fb/+bug/1880443. The bug is titled in a way to suggest a regression in behaviour between Bionic and Focal, but I think you're saying that there is no regression?
[16:25] <rbasak> In both cases, the runtime configuration isn't preserved automatically after reboot, and users need to make their own arrangements, right?
[19:36] <mwhudson> vorlon: turns out i can do what i want to without needing to touch this stuff so might shelve this for another day
[19:37] <mwhudson> why can't i upload to a ppa
[19:37] <mwhudson> has my isp forgotten how to bgp again
[19:37] <sarnold> a few hours ago ftp was busted
[19:37] <mwhudson> hmm
[19:38] <mwhudson> still looks pretty busted to me
[19:38] <mwhudson> should i finally change over to sftp
[19:39] <sarnold> try that, yeah, that worked a few hours ago :) and back then they were asking for mtrs to the hosts involved
[19:43] <kanashiro> rbasak, after the upgrade the user's config is there but when they reboot it is gone
[20:03] <rbasak> kanashiro: isn't that the case on Bionic too? So what is being requested is a new persistence feature in an SRU?
[20:05] <kanashiro> rbasak, I did not investigate too deep this issue in Bionic but it does not use systemd unit files, this is handled in another way there
[20:05] <kanashiro> but according to the bug reporter it is persistent in Bionic and not in Focal
[20:05] <kanashiro> in Impish it is persistent
[20:25] <cjwatson> mwhudson: ftp is fixed now
[20:25] <cjwatson> mwhudson: actually should have been fixed at the time when you asked ... has it broken again?
[20:26] <cjwatson> mwhudson: seems to be working for me
[20:31] <rbasak> kanashiro: I'd like to understand better why exactly it has regressed before I can answer your question then please.
[20:31] <rbasak> kanashiro: my main concern is that adding a "restore configuration" service in Focal might regress users who are already handling that in some custom way.
[20:32] <kanashiro> rbasak, right, I'll do some investigation with the package in Bionic
[20:32] <kanashiro> thanks for taking a look
[21:28] <mwhudson> cjwatson: it works for me now but i'm in the office and i was trying at home earlier