[18:18] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Impish is upgraded to Jack 1.9.19. Got some weird stuff going on with Studio Controls now. It gets stuck in Poststart.
[18:20] <Eickmeyer> Looks like it gets stuck on adding pulse bridges.
[18:28] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Autojack log: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2h8vk8N7yb/
[19:07] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Downgraded Jack, so that's definitely the culpret.
[19:43] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: thats not much to go on...
[19:44] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Yeah, I'm not sure, but it seems as though jackd2 1.9.19 breaks the pulsaudio bridge. I'm guessing pulsaudio needs to be rebuilt against it since it uses libjack-dev as a dependency.
[19:46] <Eickmeyer> I emailed the maintainer of Pulseaudio at Canonical to see if it warrants a no-change rebuild with a dep change for pulse to libjackd2-dev.
[19:49] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: that _should_ not happen. The API should not change. That is an ap built using libjack-dev (jackd1) shold still work on jackd2 and an app built with libjack-jackd2-dev should still work on jackd1
[19:50] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Ok, then something is broken in Impish re: the pulsaudio bridge. It just plain won't start.
[19:50] <Eickmeyer> Not with Jack 1.9.19.
[19:50] <Eickmeyer> You might give it a shot and figure out what's wrong.
[19:50] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: if you look at ~/.log/jack/jackdbus.log
[19:51] <OvenWerks> maybe it will give more info.
[19:52] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Cwf3ZTqP7P/
[19:52] <Eickmeyer> It's pretty nasty.
[19:56] <OvenWerks> Thats wierd.
[19:56] <OvenWerks> why is it only pulse?
[19:57] <OvenWerks> It looks like pulse only happened once and then never loaded after that?
[19:59] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: did you run jackd with no pulse bridges a few times?
[20:00] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Only after I deleted .conf/autojack to see if that would help, but no dice there.
[20:01] <Eickmeyer> Just basic troubleshooting, but the entire thing kinda hangs at starting the bridges.
[20:01] <OvenWerks> yeah. there are so many xruns
[20:03] <OvenWerks> pulse sink seems to never come back.
[20:04] <OvenWerks> Did you try with just a source?
[20:05] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Yep, no dice.
[20:05] <Eickmeyer> Wouldn't even start the bridge.
[20:06] <Eickmeyer> I wonder if we need to rope falktx in on this one.
[20:06] <OvenWerks> but fine on 20.04
[20:06] <Eickmeyer> Well, it's 1.9.19 that's the culpret afaict.
[20:06] <OvenWerks> I have jack 1.9.19 and controls 2.1.71 on 20.04
[20:07] <OvenWerks> from back ports?)
[20:07] <OvenWerks> and pulse bridging seem to be ok
[20:07] <OvenWerks> (I have audio from youtube anyway)
[20:09] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: so it is something different from 20.04 to 21.10
[20:10] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: No, I pushed the jackd2 upgrade to impish myself (part of being a MOTU). From 1.9.17 to 1.9.19.
[20:10] <OvenWerks> so where did I get 1.9.19 from?
[20:10] <Eickmeyer> I brought it in. I have direct upload access.
[20:10] <Eickmeyer> So, me.
[20:11] <OvenWerks> It did show up yesterday or today
[20:11] <Eickmeyer> Yesterday. I uploaded it yesterday.
[20:11] <OvenWerks> (in 20.04
[20:11] <Eickmeyer> I'm not running 20.04. That's still on the old Jack version.
[20:11] <Eickmeyer> Inthis case, it looks like 1.9.12 for focal.
[20:12] <Eickmeyer> I'm running 21.10.
[20:12] <OvenWerks> 1.9.19~dfsg~ubuntu-0ubuntu1~ubuntu20.04.1~ppa1 is in the ppa
[20:13] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Yeah, but I deleted it.
[20:13] <Eickmeyer> After I found the breakage.
[20:13] <Eickmeyer> For fear it'd break in Focal.
[20:13] <OvenWerks> Ok but in 20.04 it does not seem to broken
[20:13] <Eickmeyer> Interesting.
[20:14] <Eickmeyer> Can you confirm that's the package on your system?
[20:14] <OvenWerks> The line I posted above is from muon it says that is what is installed
[20:15] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Ok, so it's not broken in Focal. Odd.
[20:15] <Eickmeyer> But it's broken in Impish. Very odd.
[20:15] <OvenWerks> also, jackdbus.log shows: Controller activated. Version 1.9.19 (unknown) built o
[20:15] <OvenWerks> n Tue Jul 20 22:17:53 2021
[20:16] <Eickmeyer> I'll go ahead and reupload to backports for that then since it's not broken. But, it was definitely broken on Impish.
[20:16] <OvenWerks> I wonder if it is is a hw difference
[20:17] <OvenWerks> I am definately running a different jack backend (ffado)
[20:17] <Eickmeyer> Might be.
[20:24] <OvenWerks> Ok, started with alsa and and ice1712 pulse ok, started with a USB dongle as master, pulse ok
[20:24] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: ^^
[20:24] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Ok, something might be off with my system then. It did not like to start using jack 1.9.19.
[20:25] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: I will be kind of busy today but maybe tomorrow can try impish
[20:25] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Sounds good.
[20:27] <OvenWerks> controls looks pretty solid, I used to have things lock up on me if I applied device changes too many times in a row... but seems good now.
[20:27] <Eickmeyer> Agreed.
[20:28] <OvenWerks> I think Monday I will rename it to 2.2.0 and release (so it actually gets really tested :P )
[20:30] <Eickmeyer> Sounds good. :)