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mwhudsonhooray for past me adding autopkgtests to casper00:32
parideHi! There is one thing I don't understand about `apt-get instal -t <target> <package>` vs. `apt install <package>/<target> `: the former doesn't prompt me to downgrade the package to the version in <target>, while the latter does. (<target> is in sources.list and offers a lower version than the installed one.)10:49
parideSee: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4CGtcTMTJB/10:49
parideas asked in the pastebin: where am I wrong?10:50
rbasakparide: -t is a pin override, whereas / selects the version available from a specific suite?10:52
rbasakSo the behaviour you see makes sense to me10:53
rbasakThe -t gives you a pin priority of 990, but you need 1000 for a downgrade to be permitted10:54
pariderbasak, thanks, this makes sense. I thought the only mechanism for selecting a version from a specific suite (/target) was bumping the pin-priority for the package, which is basically what -t does10:55
parideand could still be, maybe with priority >=100010:56
parideWell the mechanism isn't clear to me, but I'll accept that <package>/<target> selects only versions from the <target> suite, and so it's stronger than -t11:10
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ddstreetrbasak can you check the git-ubuntu import of systemd? it seems behind by a couple days15:21
rbasakHmm. The backlog seems to have exploded.15:22
rbasakI bumped the priority of systemd for you.15:23
ddstreetthanks!15:23
rbasakNot sure why just about every package suddenly appeared in the queue15:23
rbasakAh it's because bullseye got "published" according to LP I think.15:25
schopinhmm? already ?15:26
rbasakFor example the first entry in https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/adwaita-icon-theme/+publishinghistory15:27
rbasakI don't know what action that corresponds to in Debian15:27
schopintracker.d.o doesn't list any recent action on that package.15:29
cjwatsonrbasak,schopin: Ah, this is probably because I recently nagged IS to land https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/lp-production-crontabs/import-bullseye/+merge/370477 after nearly two years15:35
cjwatsonI didn't realize it would affect git-ubuntu or I'd have warned you, sorry15:36
rbasakNo problem. I'm not sure what I could have done anyway. Essentially this means that a refs/heads/debian/bullseye needs adding to every repository, so everything needs touching anyway15:37
rbasakI have a performance optimisation I need to do to make the importer far more efficient, but that's quite a bit of work I haven't done yet15:38
dbungertmay I get a retest click for evdi, which is currently blocking glibc?  https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=impish&arch=s390x&package=evdi&trigger=glibc/2.33-0ubuntu915:43
RikMillsdbungert: clicked15:56
dbungertRikMills: passed, thanks.16:05
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tewardddstreet: for your backports proposal: if you need more for day to day my FT job is starting to die down, not sure if anyone will whine because of my having 'all the hats' but as long as i'm not in the admins/leadership for.  Assuming of course that TB approves (since it might need permissions overhauls...).  Otherwise, I'll just keep an eye :)21:24
teward(my email server took a crap so I can't email outbound atm)21:24
tewardwow that was a poor sentence21:25
rbasakI'll write to the thread tomorrow, but FWIW, IMHO this plan doesn't need TB approval as we have unanimous consensus in ubuntu-devel@21:25
tewardrbasak: check.  I meant specifically if there's something special for 'approval' rights that TB has to instruct relevant teams to implement, etc.21:26
tewardassuming nobody objects.21:26
tewardassuming nobody objects, I'm volunteering day to day activities for backports as my FT job is dying down in terms of how busy i'm being kept.21:26
rbasakI'm not aware of anything. Therefore I intend to seek forgiveness rather than permission here, and JFDI.21:26
teward(Tis what I was trying to say before xD)21:26
tewardyep21:26
rbasakI've asked ScottK to tranfer ownership to ~techboard, but I haven't been able to reach him.21:27
rbasakI'll give him some time longer, and then ask Launchpad admins to make the change. Everyone involved knows the background here and I believe it's completely non-controversial and that nobody would object, including ScottK.21:28
rbasakOnce owned by ~techboard I intend just to make the changes agreed.21:28
rbasakSo JFDIng it all the way through.21:28
rbasakIf somebody want to object, then please reply to the thread, and I'll then ask the TB who I'm sure will just say yes anyway :)21:28
bdmurrayjawn-smith: Do you know if there is any reason to believe bug 1912385 isn't fixed?21:36
ubottuBug 1912385 in linux-firmware-raspi2 (Ubuntu) "No wlan interfaces found on CM4 after firmware update" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191238521:36
tewardrbasak: yep.  I only save "ask for permission first" if something I'm touching has the major major risk of blowing everything up (like apparmor xD)21:36
bdmurraydbungert: Do you happen to know if bug 1914075 is really fixed?21:37
ubottuBug 1914075 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "subiquity 20.04.2 fails to install hwe kernel offline" [Undecided, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191407521:37
bdmurrayteward: "major major"?21:37
tewardsue me i'm on the tail end of a long day21:38
tewardbdmurray: i avoid kernel like the plague, but something owned by Security (apparmor) I don't touch unless i have to :P21:38
tewardand spotcheck along the way21:38
tewardyes 'major major' is the equivalent of "Basically if this breaks everything else breaks" :)21:38
bdmurraythen what is major risk?21:39
jawn-smithbdmurray: I believe that's fixed but I actually have a focal CM4 booted at the moment so I can double check21:42
bdmurrayjawn-smith: that'd be helpful thanks!21:44
jawn-smithbdmurray that bug does not seem to be affecting my CM4. Per the latest comment by juergh I think the original bug was caused by the user installing an unofficial version of pi-bluetooth21:56
jawn-smithbut I can confirm that with pi-bluetooth 0.1.15ubuntu0~20.04.1 installed my wifi device is still detected21:56
jawn-smithah read it a little more closely, the second user's bug was the weird pi-bluetooth version. So yes I can confirm the original bug is fixed21:57
bdmurrayOkay, feel free to comment and set it to Fix Released.21:57
jawn-smithdone!21:58
dbungertbdmurray: re 1914075, not sure22:06
bdmurraydbungert: Okay, I'll punt it down to 20.04.3 and discuss it with "people"22:19
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