[06:14] <lordievader> Good morning
[16:06] <mybalzitch> anyone know why on two 20.04 server installs, systemctl is in /bin on one, /usr/bin on another?
[16:07] <mybalzitch> and then my 20.04 to 21.04 desktop install has it in both
[16:07] <mybalzitch> and its not a symlink
[16:16] <TJ-> mybalzitch: one has been d-r-u-ed over many years?
[16:16] <mybalzitch> I don't understand the term "d-r-u"
[16:31] <TJ-> sorry, do-release-ugprade (upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 )
[17:09] <mybalzitch> no they are both pretty recent. and my server install from nov of 2018 (different than the other 2 previously mentioned) that has been dru'd only has it in /bin
[18:12] <TJ-> mybalzitch: it sounds like something related to the usrmerge effort that has been ongoing for some time. Originally there was a split with /bin/ and /usr/bin/ being separate entities, then /usr/bin/ became the only directory to install to and /bin/ should be a sym-link to /usr/bin/
[18:13] <TJ-> mybalzitch: so the question would be, how were those two systems originally provisioned - what installer/method 
[18:14] <mybalzitch> well the 2 installs initially my friend deployed. I imagine they were both server installs. my 20.04 to 21.04 that has it in both were always desktop installs. the 3rd server started life at 18.04, went to 19.10? then 20.04
[18:15] <TJ-> mybalzitch: as far as I'm aware /bin/ has been a sym-link for quite some time on new installs
[18:17] <TJ-> mybalzitch: some useful background that may help you figure it out https://lwn.net/Articles/773342/
[18:17] <tomreyn> just to add another data point: my original 16.04 ubuntu desktop, which was upgraded to 18.04, has it in /bin still, next to 216 other binaries (most have moved to /usr/bin already)
[18:18] <tomreyn> s/ 216 / 176 /
[18:26] <mybalzitch> TJ-: thank you :)