| lotuspsychje | good morning | 03:25 |
|---|---|---|
| ducasse | \o Bashing-om | 07:17 |
| TJ- | good job satellite Internet is more reliable that water supply! | 08:37 |
| lotuspsychje | have you taken musk as your saviour TJ- :p | 08:38 |
| daftykins | hrmm does /var/crash only contain the last issue's logs, not historic ones? | 08:38 |
| TJ- | I've been on Starlink for a while now - fantastic | 08:38 |
| TJ- | daftykins: usually the ones that haven't been submitted (I'm not sure if crash dumps from non-supported packages are kept) | 08:39 |
| lotuspsychje | how much does that cost TJ- | 08:39 |
| daftykins | i need to add a +1 to this - https://askubuntu.com/questions/1353859/ubuntu-18-04-05-lts-desktop-hangs-with-since-kernel-4-15-0-151-and-systemd-237-3 | 08:40 |
| TJ- | lotuspsychje: UK£89 per month. I typically get 200Mbs/20Mbs/40ms | 08:40 |
| daftykins | my lounge ThinkPad doesn't get a lot of use since i've not been using this room for a while, it's still on 18.04 - the -151 kernel was giving me freezes yesterday | 08:40 |
| lotuspsychje | wow thats pretty fair price | 08:40 |
| TJ- | lotuspsychje: I cancelled the VDSL landline that cost UK£50 per month for a max of 10Mbs/1Mbs/24ms | 08:40 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah i also got a vdsl2 here 50/20 | 08:41 |
| TJ- | And, with Starlink, I can move it (Starlink will support roaming later this year) | 08:41 |
| lotuspsychje | 29 euro internet alone | 08:41 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: you got a dongle for it or something? | 08:42 |
| TJ- | there's still the occasional brielf (few seconds) outages as satellites aren't quite in sight but thats more than made up for by the overall better performance | 08:42 |
| TJ- | lotuspsychje: no, a dish in the garden on top of a gazebo plugging into my gateway via Ethernet (PC Engines APU2) | 08:42 |
| lotuspsychje | ah | 08:43 |
| TJ- | The 'dish' isn't really a dish, it's a planar phased array antenna that steers the beams electronically | 08:43 |
| lotuspsychje | i see | 08:43 |
| TJ- | but the antenna has servo motors and GPS and initially aligns itself optimally | 08:43 |
| lotuspsychje | i had sat tv few years ago, was pretty cool | 08:44 |
| TJ- | right now, due to limited numbers of satellites, we're limited to the a hexagonal shaped footprint on the ground | 08:44 |
| lotuspsychje | how much does the dish cost | 08:44 |
| TJ- | You can watch it live at https://starlink.sx/ | 08:45 |
| TJ- | the UTR (User Terminal aka dish) and a router/AP, both PoE, and PoE power supply UK£489 | 08:46 |
| lotuspsychje | holy tux | 08:46 |
| lotuspsychje | how many sats did they beam up space already? | 08:46 |
| TJ- | on starlink.sx if you set your home location you can see which satellites are connected as they fly over, and which ground stations they're using | 08:46 |
| TJ- | About 1400 with about 1100 operational | 08:47 |
| lotuspsychje | jeez | 08:47 |
| TJ- | They're currently doing about 2 launches a month, each deploying 60 satellites | 08:47 |
| * lotuspsychje puts on his alu hat :p | 08:48 | |
| TJ- | The only downsides so far are 1) the router/AP firmware (OpenWRT) is locked down and cannot be managed in any way (so I don't use it) and 2) they're only doing IPv4 CGNAT (so I have a wireguard tunnel to a server) and on my networks only use IPv6, with NAT64/DNS64 on the public gateway | 08:49 |
| lotuspsychje | nuts | 08:50 |
| TJ- | also, the design of the router/AP is silly. Stands tall and slim, 3 sides aluminium so if you position it so the ethernet cables come in to the back the aluminium cases is shielding the wifi which is only escaping out a narrow slot facing the wall... and it falls over really easy, has uneven sides so can't even lie on its side without rocking! | 08:51 |
| TJ- | looks like a CyberTruck! | 08:51 |
| TJ- | IPv6 is 'coming' soon - the service is still a beta test and Starlink is rapidly developing the entire network with, sometimes, firmware updates to the *satellites* at least once a week. The latest satellites have laser links and they're creating a mesh network in space so there's no need to downlink to ground stations for starlink to starlink connections | 08:53 |
| lotuspsychje | https://i0.wp.com/bitsinflight.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/IMG_1834.jpeg this? | 08:53 |
| TJ- | the satellites have about 60 separate computers onboard all running Linux | 08:53 |
| TJ- | "We cannot complete this request, remote data could not be fetched" | 08:54 |
| TJ- | https://spaceexplored.com/2020/12/07/teardown-of-starlink-user-terminal-gives-a-detailed-look-at-complex-internals/ | 08:54 |
| TJ- | prices are going to drop dramatically in a few months https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/06/musk-aims-to-cut-starlink-user-terminal-price-from-500-to-as-low-as-250/ | 08:55 |
| lotuspsychje | this could get huge | 08:56 |
| TJ- | that is the expecation. There have been successful tests for aircraft and that market will be huge once airlines start flying as they were before the shutdowns | 08:59 |
| TJ- | lots of rural services can use it as a backhaul too. The aim is to be able to provide 10Gbps with sub 20ms latency eventually | 09:00 |
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