[10:03] <MiSix> Please help, Kubuntu is not booting, we want to try a repair - where do I find a boot repair for Kubuntu to use on usb??
[10:08] <oerheks> MiSix, not, boot in live mode, and install it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[10:10] <MiSix> Ok, I thought we needed one specific to Kubuntu. Thanks.
[10:15] <MiSix> But wait no, I still dont understand. Do I download a ubuntu live - to repair a kubuntu installation? My kid has a game on the pc he is terrified of losing the contents of (it saves in some odd way, sensitive to account and setup changes)...
[10:21] <MiSix> And also, maybe stressed, but I just dont see what file to dowload at the link to the live-USB link: multipass, clout, IoT, flavour...?
[10:26] <MiSix> ok i found a desktop version, trying it now. ill be back if it doesnt work. thx
[11:10] <MiSix> Problem, created live-usb file on a mac. etcher said the file was done, mac said the file couldnt be written. PC does not boot w USB - nor without it which is why I need to repair via live-USB. in BIOS setup, USB boot is enabled. I've moved the USB boot up, but should it go even before the "> OS boot manager" or not? The order is now: UEFI Boot
[11:10] <MiSix> Order; >OS Boot Manager; USB flash ; Internal CD/DVD; USB CD/DVD ROM; ! Network Adapter...
[11:11] <diogenes_> MiSix, yep, USB flash should be on top of the list.
[11:11] <MiSix> thx
[11:26] <MiSix> Trying to repair Kubuntu not booting from live-USB Ubuntu. Following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair.
[11:26] <MiSix> The Dash only gives option to install Ubuntu. The terminal says boot-repair is command not found.
[11:27] <diogenes_> MiSix, did you run in a terminal: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair
[11:27] <diogenes_> sudo apt-get update
[11:28] <diogenes_> sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair
[11:28] <MiSix> no, that was not in the guide. three commands then?
[11:28] <diogenes_> after the third command you should be getting something.
[11:29] <MiSix> ok thks. and then try the boot-repair again=
[11:29] <MiSix> ?
[11:29] <diogenes_> yep
[11:30] <MiSix> ok thx so much!
[11:30] <diogenes_> no problem
[11:32] <MiSix> ok it sais *squiggle line*yannubuntu does not exist. but I didtn type *Squiggle line*... deep breaths...
[11:32] <MiSix> cannot add ppa
[11:33] <diogenes_> MiSix, are you connected to internet on that machine?
[11:33] <MiSix> yes
[11:33] <buntucoffee> hey there, I like KDE and would like stability and reliablitiy and software availability of ubuntu
[11:34] <buntucoffee> so is kubuntu good for my one-person marketing business?
[11:34] <diogenes_> and what did you get when you run in terminal:
[11:34] <buntucoffee> and web dev
[11:34] <diogenes_> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair
[11:34] <diogenes_> MiSix, ^^^
[11:34] <diogenes_> buntucoffee, of course it's good for everything.
[11:35] <buntucoffee> and for support, i know there's tons of people using ubuntu
[11:35] <buntucoffee> but kubuntu, is the support usually good?
[11:35] <buntucoffee> do you get quick answers to what you're looking for?
[11:35] <MiSix> sorry no internet connection, juste realized...
[11:36] <MiSix> ill try and set up the wifi and try again. of course, its not there. brb. or not. i hope.
[11:36] <diogenes_> buntucoffee, Kubuntu is based on Ubuntu so it works exactly the same with the exception for DE which is KDE plasma, so unless you have settings specific questions, everything else is exactly the same.
[11:37] <buntucoffee> well, since I prefer KDE, would you say for an office setting, kubuntu or Leap?
[11:37] <buntucoffee> and btw, is there a way to easily, safely and reliably turn a deb package into rpm?
[11:37] <diogenes_> buntucoffee, 1) depends, 2) rather not.
[11:39] <buntucoffee> depends on what? :D
[11:39] <guiverc> buntucoffee, Kubuntu is a flavor of Ubuntu; so you're welcome to use #ubuntu too; along with askubuntu & other Ubuntu sites for support
[11:39] <diogenes_> buntucoffee, depends on personal preference.
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:41] <buntucoffee> oh diogenes_ thanks
[11:41] <diogenes_> no problem.
[11:41] <buntucoffee> if i understand, personal preference is usually DE
[11:41] <buntucoffee> ?
[11:42] <diogenes_> buntucoffee, not only, the entire paradigm of rpm vs deb, the philosophy, the different ways of doing same things and much more.
[11:46] <buntucoffee> thanks
[11:46] <guiverc> buntucoffee, one difference with opensuse/leap & kubuntu is length of support; Kubuntu has two options; 6-9 months for non-LTS; & 2-3 years for LTS (with extra 2 years for some packages).  As I recall Leap; it's ~18 months before upgrade time...
[11:47] <diogenes_> guiverc, rumors say with the beginnig of Leap 15.4, the support might reach up to 60 months.
[11:48] <guiverc> some used to have evergreen options (specific packages) but I maybe out-of-date
[11:48] <diogenes_> yep evergreen was a community effors and it's EOL.
[11:48] <diogenes_> effort*
[11:59] <buntucoffee> wait diogenes_ so a point release 60 months of supprot
[12:00] <buntucoffee> or alltogether 60 months combining all point releases
[12:01] <diogenes_> buntucoffee, on their page it says: "Current lifecycle of SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 shows us that we can expect longer lifecycle of version 15. According to current information we can expect openSUSE Leap 15.4 and potentially also openSUSE Leap 15.5. This would result into length of 60 months."
[12:02] <buntucoffee> oh, so all combined releases together is 60
[12:02] <buntucoffee> thanks
[12:56] <buntucoffee> so why do you prefer kubuntu over other distros
[13:02] <diogenes_> buntucoffee, it's same if you ask someone why he prefers chocolate ice cream over vanilla (de gustibus et coloribus not est disputandum)..
[13:03] <buntucoffee> disputantum
[13:03] <buntucoffee> :D
[13:03] <buntucoffee> kool
[13:03] <buntucoffee> sisajte kurčine
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