[22:24] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: pipewire is odd :P
[22:25] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: the pulse side of pipewire is tightly coupled to the jack side of pipewire...
[22:26] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: so the way pipewire starts up as default looks pretty reasonable. It sets ALL devices up as stereo. cool.
[22:37] <OvenWerks> This is both in pa and jack (the pw version of both). Setting up my ice1712 as "proaudio" on the other hand.... does different things depending on if the plasma settings is used to do this or pavucontrol
[22:37] <OvenWerks> ... I think I know why.
[22:40] <OvenWerks> pavucontrol has meters and so pavucontrol shows up on carla's patch bay as a huge block with connections everywhere.
[22:54] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: huh, starting jackd -d alsa (with or without the -v) gives:https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5YMVKsFY6c/
[23:01] <OvenWerks> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/v6mqFxbZvD/ is closer but sterr in on top while stdout is after
[23:07] <OvenWerks> I think this is pipewire created proplems