[02:42] <guiverc> nvidia drivers; 304, 340 etc... is there any reasoning for the numbers??
[02:48] <Bashing-om> guiverc: ?? those are legacy and no longer supported drivers: http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/~/support-timeframes-for-unix-legacy-gpu-releases .
[02:49] <guiverc> yeah I know... I'm wondering about the numbers... replying to a UF post on 340 (and using my 304 detail as example)  just wondering what the 304, 340 numbers actually mean
[02:50]  * guiverc generally ignores video/graphics - unless it's a problem
[02:52] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Just the series release numbers - currently the repo os up to 470.
[02:53] <Bashing-om> os/is*
[02:53] <guiverc> so 304 is older than 340?   (turns out I think my box is 340 and not 304... must have my boxes confused)
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> wasnt 304 eol?
[02:57] <Bashing-om> guiverc: yeah 173 went out with 14.04.2; 304 EOL last of 2017; 340 EOL last of 2019. 
[02:58] <guiverc> yeah probably .. 304 I think was my pentium 4 box; dead PSU & pointless now anyway as i386 - i tend to not take much notice of nvidia graphics
[03:00] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Back in the day when AMD dropped FGLRX I went with Nvidia for a new card . now I wish I had stayed with AMD :(
[03:02] <guiverc> :(   the box I'm using here, one underneath it are both amd... three boxes (piled) to my left are nvidia  (I forget which card is in which; thus which driver; 304/340/??)   but thanks lotuspsychje  & Bashing-om 
[03:06] <Bashing-om> guiverc: ' cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version ' :D
[03:08] <guiverc> :)   i gave my 2c on UF; the boxes are off so I won't look now
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[08:27] <marcoagpinto> Morning!
[08:43] <guiverc> is there a command here on irc that can tell me what python3 is used by an updated bionic system?  (rmadison isn't helpful for focal anyway)
[08:53] <oerheks> local; apt-cache policy python3
[08:53] <oerheks> or do you mean latest version in the repositories?
[08:58] <guiverc> i'm on impish oerheks, I don't have a bionic handy, so I was hoping there was a query that I could ask here (given rmadison says 3.8.2 for focal when updated it's 3.8.10)
[08:59] <oerheks> yes, the bot does the same..
[08:59] <oerheks> it is 3.8.10, confirmed, but i have no clue how to obtain the update from the list
[09:00] <guiverc> thanks oerheks 
[09:01] <oerheks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic-updates/python3 or https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic-updates/python3.7 or weird, 3.8 is also available https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic-updates/python3.8
[09:16] <TJ-> guiverc: --suite=focal-updates 
[09:20] <guiverc> thanks TJ- ; it's faster for sure (than all) but rmadison doesn't give me what I was after (for focal; therefore not sure I can trust for bionic)
[09:25] <TJ-> $ rmadison --url ubuntu --suite=bionic-updates python3
[09:25] <TJ->  python3 | 3.6.7-1~18.04 | bionic-updates | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> sweet
[09:47] <guiverc> thanks TJ- , but I'm not sure I can trust 3.6.7; it will mean the OP in my bug report has switched to 3.6.9 and that maybe an issue ; package installed by OP includes `python3.6-minimal | 3.6.9-1~18.04ubuntu1.4 | bionic-updates` & python3.6-minimal is found on manifest for ISO
[10:23] <TJ-> guiverc: maybe rmadison server-side is broken!
[10:24] <guiverc> i don't believe so... it's a known issue that impacts only python3 as I understand it (due to packaging of it or how installed.. I've seen discussions in dev rooms
[10:24]  * guiverc rooms where you belong & I'm a fly on the wall :)
[10:25] <guiverc> I think there is even a bug report about it
[10:26] <guiverc> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3-defaults/+bug/1910175/comments/4 maybe what I'm thinking of
[10:27] <guiverc> and that comment also answers what I was asking I guess too !
[10:27] <guiverc> so thank you TJ- (even if not really what I was hoping for; it still confirms what I was thinking was not cause of ..)
[10:40] <TJ-> guiverc: when we ask the correct question we get the correct answer! " rmadison --url ubuntu --suite=bionic-updates python3.6-minimal " => "python3.6-minimal | 3.6.9-1~18.04ubuntu1.4 | bionic-updates | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x"
[10:41] <guiverc> :)
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> in other interesting news; https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Debian-Installer-Bullseye-RC3
[11:23] <guiverc> yeah release day is getting closer :)  (debian bullseye)
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> invasion of the network guests :p
[13:03] <leftyfb> yeah, been noticing this a lot lately
[13:44] <TJ-> We've been running bullseye without issue since last year 
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> cool
[13:47] <daftykins> sounds like it hits the target *cough*