[00:08] <alanallen234324> why is ubuntu under a non-free license
[00:09] <leftyfb> alanallen234324: https://ubuntu.com/licensing
[00:10] <leftyfb> alanallen234324: https://ubuntu.com/legal/terms
[00:11] <leftyfb> alanallen234324: Ubuntu is a collection of different software, each with their own licensing
[01:12] <dayao> chenxiang
[01:12] <dayao> 123456
[01:12] <dayao> chenxiang
[01:51] <Technoturnovers> Okay, I've got a public service announcement
[01:52] <Technoturnovers> if you're gonna fix your system with a chroot, do it with a live environment based on the distro you are fixing
[01:52] <Technoturnovers> I just broke my ubuntu install like a complete dunce
[01:52] <Technoturnovers> because I was running apt from systemrescuecd, and it installed crap for the wrong kernel version
[01:53] <Bashing-om> Technoturnovers: All have at one time or the other broke 'buntu - all in the process of learning :D
[01:54] <Technoturnovers> Bashing-om: I thought that apt was gonna use info from my chroot, but it somehow read the kernel that systemrescue was using
[01:55] <Bashing-om> Technoturnovers: Hummm .. like you I would have thought a full change root would have been the install :(
[01:56] <Technoturnovers> I think it was because I mounted /dev, /sys, etc
[01:56] <Technoturnovers> which i had to, otherwise stuff wouldn't have worked
[01:57] <Technoturnovers> anyways, I'm writing a kubuntu liveusb right now
[01:57] <webchat52> I am using ubuntu 20.04 and gdm3, the window manager would only start when I type "systemctl start gdm3"
[01:57] <webchat52> I want it to start automatically upon boot
[01:58] <webchat52> I already set my graphical environment as default, but sitll not loading after boot up, clues?
[01:58] <Bashing-om> Technoturnovers: Yeah - lesson learned here the hard way too - always work with liveUSB same as the installed version.
[04:23] <thyriaen> Howdy, where can i see the log of the previous boot ? is it journalctl ?
[04:28] <alkisg> AFAIK it's journalctl -b -1
[04:28] <Bashing-om> thyriaen: ' journalctl -b -0 ' shows messages from the current boot ; ' journalctl -b -1 ' from the previous boot.
[04:29]  * Bashing-om tooo slow ^^ :D
[04:31] <kushal> `journalctl --list-boots` to list all of the available boot logs :)
[04:35] <Bashing-om> sudo journalctl --vacuum-time=2weeks to free up some disk space :)
[04:38] <kushal> Bashing-om, thank you for reminding me, have to write about the other available flags in my command line book.
[04:38] <kushal> Though I will have to read the man page to learn about those first :p
[04:39] <Bashing-om> kushal: ^ came from my own cheat sheet :D
[04:39] <kushal> Bashing-om, :)
[04:39] <alkisg> Meh that journalctl could surely use some optimizing; `journalctl --list-boots` needed 30 seconds to list the boots in my pc
[04:40] <kushal> hehe
[04:41] <kushal> Bashing-om, I maintain this book https://lym.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
[04:43] <m123456789> vegas.qld.au.austnet.org
[04:43] <Bashing-om> kushal: Gotta check that out - gimme a few tics :D
[04:43] <m123456789> sorry wrong chat :)
[04:44] <Bashing-om> kushal: ^ beats my cheat sheet all hollow - bookmarked !
[04:46] <kushal> Bashing-om, I am sure you have tricks which are not in the book. I wrote it as I was looking for one single point to use in the IRC based training we provide.
[04:49] <Bashing-om> kushal: Are you on the ubuntu documentation team ?
[04:50] <kushal> Bashing-om, No :(
[04:50] <kushal> I wish to write a lot of things, just lacking in both knowledge and time :)
[04:55] <Bashing-om> kushal: Hey what you have done is wonderful - What I helped develop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PopularPages .
[04:57]  * kushal goes to read 
[04:59] <Bashing-om> kushal: If you are in the vein to learn and contibute, please join the documentation discussion: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ways-to-improve-documentation/23478 .
[05:00]  * kushal adds the links to note
[05:02] <kushal> Bashing-om, I also maintain a Python book https://pymbook.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
[05:07] <Bashing-om> kushal: Looks descent too - I will find that handy :D
[05:09] <kushal> Bashing-om, there are a lot of new changes in Python 3.9 and 3.10, have to add those.
[05:11] <Bashing-om> kushal: Yeah - I am aware of changes - so far I have not got caught up short. - famous last words -
[05:13] <Bashing-om> juanjo: Mind ya though - I am but a dabbler- nothing of a serious nature :D
[05:19] <alkisg> I was writing some pages in the ubuntu wiki in the past; then I realized that software documentation should be managed/maintained upstream as much as possible
[05:19] <alkisg> Only distro-specific documentation should be maintained in distribution faciliities. Same for bugs; launchpad.net is a mess because they were accepting bugs with no software maintainers there
[05:22] <Bashing-om> alkisg: Yeah - maintaining our docs has sure fallen from what it used to be - I am glad to see a movement to improve this situation.
[05:22] <alkisg> I think the policy needs to be changed; not a "call for engagement"...
[05:23] <alkisg> I liked the diataxis.fr link that a person posted in that discourse thread
[05:24] <Bashing-om> alkisg: If I had an answer I would indeed voice my opinion - but me is so little minded and the issue is a complex one :(
[05:32] <zilinu> Hellow
[05:32] <zilinu> Good evening
[05:49] <yukiup> hi
[05:49] <yukiup> it is dark out
[09:36] <relics> sup
[09:48] <yukiup> hi
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> welcome relrod yukiup
[09:59] <bobdobbs> I'm about to install something that has no official ubuntu repo. I'll be downloading the binary. Where is a good place to put it, if I want the command to be available to all users on the system?
[10:00] <oerheks> for such binairies, choose /opt/
[10:00] <oerheks> and add /opt/whatever to your path
[10:00] <bobdobbs> oerheks: thanks
[10:00] <oerheks> logout, login, and voila
[10:01] <oerheks> export PATH="/opt/:$PATH"
[10:01] <bobdobbs> kewl
[10:01] <bobdobbs> thanks :)
[10:03] <oerheks> add this to /etc/bash.bashrc ( for all users) or  ~/.bashrc for your account
[10:03] <bobdobbs> will do
[10:03] <bobdobbs> The path stuff I understand (for the most part). It's permissions that I find a little challenging.
[10:04] <bobdobbs> oerheks: if I'm right, the script should be owned by root, executable by everyone, and writable only by root. Does that sound right?
[10:06] <Bardon> Hello, I read "communicate with the host platform via serial if the host has been configured to present a terminal on /dev/ttyS1". I'm using ubuntu 20.04 LTS. How can I get a terminal on /dev/ttyS1?
[10:09] <Bardon> dmesg says "[   17.446604] 00:03: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3, base_baud = 115200) is a 16550A"
[10:15] <Bardon> `screen /dev/ttyS1 115200` says "[screen is terminating]"
[10:17] <Bardon> Ah my bad I needed sudo. Still, it is empty
[11:16] <goddard> why isn't fail2ban setup by default when installing openssh?
[11:17] <oerheks> most ssh users use keys. so a password tool is not really needed
[11:18] <oerheks> gufw is also not installed standard.
[11:18] <oerheks> thát package i would see standard
[11:18] <goddard> the default ubuntu screen share tool  or whatever you calls it enables SSH with just a password
[11:18] <goddard> yeah me too
[11:19] <oerheks> https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/service-openssh
[11:32] <Guest22> Hello Guys, hope you can help me out with an issue, i have configure my Ubuntu server 21.04 on friday and it was up and running fine till this morning when i decided to reboot it, since then i'm not able to reach the server anymore but it seems the network are not working properly on the ubuntu server itself. if i try to ping whatever ip it says:
[11:32] <Guest22> Network is unreachable... i have been looking and trying different solution; one of those solutions were to execute: sudo netplan apply, but i don't have that package installed, so how can i  install it without being connected to the world?
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> Guest22: you dont have physical access to your server anymore?
[11:34] <Guest22> i do
[11:34] <Guest22> is a VM so i can acces via terminal
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> Guest22: pastebin us sudo lshw -C network please?
[11:36] <Guest22> could not copy it but i saw one row which is *-network:0 DISABLED
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> Guest22: maybe your network card didnt pickup on the 21.04 kernel? investigate your dmesg perhaps
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> or if you can share it to the chanel here
[11:41] <Guest22> it seems it has been reconigzed at least it says: enp0s3 NIC Link is up...
[11:41] <Guest22> i would like to copy it but i cannot get it from the terminal from Virtualbox
[11:41] <oerheks> ctrl + alt + c
[11:45] <Guest22> i'm still here
[11:51] <oerheks> one could also make a screenshot from the host
[11:51] <Guest2271> i did it but how i can i paste it here?
[11:51] <oerheks> !paste
[11:51] <oerheks> imgur or the like
[11:53] <Guest2271> http://imgur.com/a/V1LV769
[11:54] <oerheks> what is this renamed?
[11:54] <oerheks> did you try to disable the new interface naming?
[11:55] <oerheks> remove that, and it works, i guess
[11:55] <Guest2271> how should i do that, i mean this was done automatically
[11:55] <oerheks> and i see you use nm networkmanager...
[12:01] <Guest2271> same post as before if i try to remove it it doesn't remove because is not installed
[12:03] <Guest2271> if you refresh imgur, you will get the full log from lshw -C network
[12:36] <Guest2271> updated link on imgur: now i get a different messahe
[12:36] <Guest2271> message
[12:37] <Guest2271> http://imgur.com/a/V1LV769
[12:38] <Guest2271> so far it ssems IPV4 does not work and it only work on IPV6
[12:39] <murder> hello guys, I've been out of using linux as desktop for around 15 years and something has changed regarding keyboard, I use PTBR keyboard layout, thus making ~ an accentuated notation like ã - the problem is, when I do ~/ directly, it anulates, probably because the / is not an acceptable accentuation letter, how can I avoid this beside having to hit ~ space / ?
[12:41] <Guest96> sudo apt-get update fails with "Could not connect to testserver:8080 (10.190.21.244). - connect (111: Connection refused)" .. I am able to ping "testserver", but any idea why it failed in apt-get update?
[12:41] <zaggynl> can you browse to the testserver repo?
[12:41] <murder> Guest96: you can ping, but you cannot connect to port 8080 TCP.
[12:42] <Guest96> murder: What needs to be modified on testserver to resolve it?
[12:44] <geirha> start the proxy that is supposed to be listening on port 8080 there
[12:45] <Guest96> geirha: I just checked ps command ouput, already aptly running on that port (/usr/bin/aptly api serve --listen 127.0.0.1:8080)
[12:45] <geirha> if it listens on 127.0.0.1, it can't be accesses from the outside
[12:46] <geirha> try with 0.0.0.0:8080 to listen on all interfaces instead
[12:56] <Guest96> geirha: thanks , it worked well
[14:29] <Ilhami> Hello guys
[14:29] <Ilhami> is there a way I can upgrade ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04?
[14:30] <oerheks> too much hassle to upgrade from EOL to EOL to next version 18.04 ..
[14:31] <de-facto> I am on Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS and screen is tearing horribly, it runs llvmpipe (LLVM 11.0.0, 256 bits) but should use "HD Graphics 530", how can i install the correct drivers?
[14:32] <oerheks> Disable secure boot.
[14:32] <oerheks> de-facto, ^^
[14:33] <Ilhami> oerheks what should I do? there is a package I can't use with version 14.04
[14:34] <Ilhami> python-certbot-nginx
[14:34] <de-facto> oerheks interesting, how come?
[14:35] <de-facto> inxi -G shows me "Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 530 driver: N/A"
[14:35] <oerheks> de-facto, tons of forumpost about that?
[14:36] <de-facto> just trying to understand why though
[14:36] <webchat68> Hi, I am trying to learn about drivers and following this website https://linux-kernel-labs.github.io/refs/heads/master/labs/infrastructure.html and i am getting error while executing "make build" i am attaching the error i am recieving. Please tell me a way to correct it. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9C5s77qS8q/
[14:39] <Ilhami> can I upgrade from 14.04 to 18.04 without problems?
[14:40] <ioria> the transition to systemd might cause some troubles ...
[14:41] <oerheks> Ilhami, no.
[14:41] <Ilhami> so can I disable systemd?
[14:42] <oerheks> you need to use 2 times the EOL hack, not worth the trouble and time.
[14:42] <oerheks> disable systemd = switch distro
[14:42] <oerheks> lolz
[14:42] <Ilhami> lol
[14:42] <Ilhami> what would you recommend me doing?
[14:43] <oerheks> go take a read about certbot in 20.04, it is great. and do a fresh install.
[14:44] <oerheks> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-secure-nginx-with-let-s-encrypt-on-ubuntu-20-04
[14:44] <Ilhami> but what about my web application? migrating it would take long, no?
[14:44] <de-facto> oerheks i was in the bios, no option to disable secure boot
[14:44] <oerheks> you will jump to python3
[14:45] <Ilhami> fuck me
[14:45] <Ilhami> :/
[14:45] <RonWhoCares> Can anyone tell me where to find AMD driver for Ubuntu 20.04 for the 6800xt graphic card?
[14:46] <de-facto> Any idea how to use "HD Graphics 530" on Ubuntu 20.04.2 ?
[14:46] <de-facto> the pc is not useable like this
[14:51] <oerheks> de-facto, i find no good reason why llvm is in place.
[14:52] <oerheks> some posts are about nvidia and drivers, mesa.
[14:53] <oerheks> one post; removing xserver-xorg-video-fbdev  fixed it..
[14:56] <de-facto> ok i was in bios again, i think secure boot is not active
[14:57] <de-facto> i think i somehow have to install the intel driver, but i dont know how
[14:57] <oerheks> intel is in the kernel already
[14:58] <oerheks> you need to stop this llvm, that may come from fbdevv ?
[15:00] <de-facto> some suggest modifying /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel-graphics.conf but that directory does not even exist!
[15:02] <ravage> do you have any kernel parameters like "nomodeset" in your grub config? that can also be a problem
[15:03] <de-facto> hmm removing xserver-xorg-video-fbdev will remove xserver-xorg-video-all
[15:03] <de-facto> i dont think that would be a good idea :(
[15:04] <de-facto> i thought intel is well supported?
[15:04] <ravage> it is
[15:04] <oerheks> yeah, that is why i am surprised ..
[15:04] <oerheks> reinstall ubuntu-desktop ?
[15:05] <oerheks> this is bare metal install, right?
[15:07] <de-facto> yes bare metal
[15:07] <de-facto> device almost not useable the tearing is so horrible that even moving mouse or typing letters is almost not possible
[15:08] <de-facto> how can i load the driver for intel 530 hd?
[15:13] <de-facto> reinstalled ubuntu-desktop
[15:13] <de-facto> no change
[15:14] <de-facto> what is the driver for "HD Graphics 530" ?
[15:15] <oerheks> xserver-xorg-video-intel
[15:22] <de-facto> is installed
[15:25] <thunderysteak> Isn't Ubuntu using Wayland by default thus needing Mesa instead?
[15:26] <thunderysteak> For 21.04 at least
[15:30] <Harlin> probably.
[15:32] <oerheks> he is running 20.04.2
[15:32] <thunderysteak> Ah, nevermind then.
[15:32] <oerheks> weird situation, llvmpipe (LLVM 11.0.0, 256 bits) as driver
[15:33] <oerheks> not the intel stack
[15:36] <ravage> did you check if you have "nomodeset" in your kernel parameters?
[17:01] <de-facto> i think so, i have to continue another day with this
[17:02] <de-facto> so far it does not work for some reason (its a pc at work, i am already at home now)
[17:03] <de-facto> thanks so far guys
[18:26] <ash_worksi> maybe not an ubuntu question, but `man psql` shows "or using a conninfo connection string as detailed in Section 33.1.1." -- how do I get to that section?
[18:27] <oerheks> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/libpq-connect.html#LIBPQ-CONNSTRING
[18:28] <ash_worksi> oerheks: I mean, how do I get to that section in `man`?
[18:29] <ash_worksi> (actually, I don't even need to as it's incidentally outlined below as a `\c` meta-command variant)
[18:29] <ash_worksi> (but I would still like to know how to navigate the docs as I don't end up doing that very often)
[18:32] <oerheks> i don't know, i would look it up online
[18:40] <newb134> Hi, where do I file a bug for the podman package ?
[18:40] <newb134> I am newb to podman, I am trying to do the comand podman pull ghost but I get the following error Error: error getting default registries to try: short-name "ghost" did not resolve to an alias and no unqualified-search registries are defined in "/etc/containers/registries.conf"
[18:40] <ash_worksi> oerheks: thanks
[18:41] <newb134> on ubuntu 21.04
[18:41] <leftyfb> !bug | newb134
[18:42] <newb134> ok
[18:45] <athos> newb134: did you check /etc/containers/registries.conf ?
[18:46] <athos> in impish here, it just came empty :) you could add a few registries there, such as docker.io, and try pulling your images
[18:47] <newb134> I did have a look other pulls seem to work fine from docker.io e.g. podman pull ubuntu
[18:48] <newb134> and the hello world script works too
[18:49] <athos> newb134: that is because there are images registered here => /etc/containers/registries.conf.d/shortnames.conf
[18:50] <athos> newb134: also, if you try using the full qualified names for those images, your pulls should work
[18:50] <athos> newb134: e.g., docker.io/IMAGE
[18:51] <newb134> i see so how would recommend to edit the .conf file
[18:53] <newb134> i mean what would you add
[18:54] <newb134> yes docker.io/IMAGE works thanks
[18:58] <athos> newb134: https://github.com/containers/image/blob/main/docs/containers-registries.conf.5.md
[18:58] <athos> and do check the note in the end on the risk of using unqualified image names
[18:59] <athos> tl;dr: the registries were not added on the config file for a reason
[18:59] <newb134> will do thanks
[19:00] <newb134> RISK OF USING UNQUALIFIED IMAGE NAMES - yes makes sense
[19:00] <newb134> most people are running podman for unprivileged access
[19:18] <dakotakae> Hello, all! Just a quick question: When did everything move away from Freenode and over to here?
[19:18] <dakotakae> I tried going into Freenode a couple of times and it was dead :P
[19:18] <oerheks> good.
[19:21] <leftyfb> dakotakae: this is the official community support IRC channel for Ubuntu now. What can we help you with?
[19:22] <dakotakae> Not much, really. I was having an issue with PolKit a couple weeks ago (it wouldn't let me enable linger for a user), but I got it worked out. I just found out recently that things were moved to Libera instead of Freenode. I was just wondering when the switch happened.
[19:23] <sarnold> dakotakae: a few weeks ago
[19:23] <leftyfb> dakotakae: in May
[19:24] <dakotakae> Yep, that would explain it. I haven't been in the Ubuntu IRC for about a year now. What motivated the change?
[19:24] <leftyfb> dakotakae: feel free to discuss in #libera or maybe #ubuntu-irc
[19:26] <sarnold> dakotakae: this describes it pretty well https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409
[19:26] <dakotakae> thanks!
[19:29] <kyonko000> are all the freenode servers down?
[19:29] <leftyfb> !ot | kyonko000
[20:29] <webchat73> hi
[20:29] <webchat73> my ubuntu is not accepting my passsword
[20:30] <webchat87> hi
[20:30] <webchat87> ubuntu is saying incorrect password
[20:30] <webchat87> i entered the correct passwrod
[20:30] <Bashing-om> webchat87: caps lock ?
[20:30] <webchat87> no
[20:30] <webchat87> i tried several times
[20:31] <webchat87> it worked last night
[20:31] <webchat87> not its not
[20:31] <oerheks> did you use numpad for 1-9?
[20:31] <matsaman> webchat87: boot to live OS, chroot, change password (passwd userhere)
[20:31] <webchat87> what live OS
[20:32] <oerheks> yes, one could reset it, if it is not fully encrypted.
[20:32] <oerheks> !password
[20:32] <webchat87> i tried doing that
[20:32] <webchat87> not working
[20:32] <oerheks> oh sure it works.
[20:33] <webchat87> no
[20:34] <Bashing-om> webchat87: This way then - providing encrtption is not a factor: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword <- Here are easy instructions to reset your password in Ubuntu.
[20:34] <webchat87> its n ot
[20:34] <Guest1045> hello
[20:34] <Guest1045> any channel for spammers here?
[20:34] <webchat87> its not working
[20:34] <matsaman> hi
[20:34] <matsaman> Guest1045: #spam? probably not
[20:34] <Guest1045> nobody :)
[20:34] <solo1> different keyboard?
[20:34] <oerheks> Guest1045, try #libera
[20:34] <matsaman> Guest1045: it's an unpopular subject
[20:35] <Guest1045> what is most popular?
[20:35] <oerheks> not an ubuntu support issue
[20:35] <Guest1045> :)
[20:35] <Guest1045> hacking,cracking?
[20:35] <webchat87> i typed this mount -rw -o remount /
[20:35] <webchat87> and it asks me for the password
[20:35] <webchat87> and then says incorrect
[20:36] <solo1> mabey luks
[20:36] <matsaman> webchat87: if it's asking you for a password on the live OS, you might have some encryption
[20:36] <matsaman> if you're running 'passwd someUser', though, it's asking you for a _new_ password to set
[20:36] <webchat87> how should i fix it ?
[20:37] <webchat87> no it is aking to enter passwrod
[20:37] <webchat87> not new passwrod
[20:38] <matsaman> unfortunately the purpose of encryption is to disallow access without the correct passphrase
[20:38] <matsaman> it's therefore important to remember the passphrase if you want to maintain access
[20:39] <matsaman> if you don't use this passphrase for other things, you could tell us what it is and we could brainstorm about how you might be accidentally mistyping it, and then you could cease to use that passphrase in future (since it'd be no longer secret)
[20:39] <matsaman> there's not much else #ubuntu can really do. Encryption can be defeated with effort, but if it was done right it would be immense effort
[20:47] <leftyfb> if it was LUKS encrypted, it wouldn't be asking for a password trying to mount /dev/sdx, it would give a mount error as it needs to be "Open"'d first, then you type in the password, then you mount the device created in /dev/mapper/
[20:49] <matsaman> yeah, I'd say the chances you're confused about what is saying what are pretty high
[20:50] <leftyfb> matsaman: you mean they are confused. I'm fully aware of how LUKS works
[20:57] <gordonjcp> why would you use LUKS when you can just smash the hard disk flat with a hammer?
[20:57] <gordonjcp> you're going to lose your data either way
[20:57] <sarnold> because LUKS is like the hammer that you've already swung
[20:57] <matsaman> leftyfb: yes, 'you' being not you leftyfb =)
[20:57] <gordonjcp> sarnold: exactly
[20:58] <gordonjcp> sarnold: I guess it saves you the bother of writing a script that'll occasionally dd /dev/urandom all over your disk when you don't expect it
[20:58] <sarnold> that way you don't have to try to get a hammer through the TSA checkpoinst at the airport, or buy a new hard drive every time you leave your laptop in the hotel room
[20:59] <leftyfb> gordonjcp: what's wrong with LUKS? I've been using it on my machines and backups for years without issue
[21:01] <gordonjcp> leftyfb: the moment you do have a problem, your data is gone
[21:01] <gordonjcp> leftyfb: and it's painfully slow
[21:01] <matsaman> encryption is fine, but you need to know the risks of using it improperly
[21:01] <gordonjcp> leftyfb: disks are slow enough as it is
[21:02] <matsaman> like forgetting your password, or not having backups, etc.
[21:02] <ravage> It amazes me how many people can't detect trolling even if it's out of "trolling for dummies"
[21:02] <leftyfb> gordonjcp: as with anything. That's what backups and ansible are for. No sense in forgoing security for the rare chance that $something goes wrong
[21:02] <gordonjcp> security isn't important
[21:02] <leftyfb> ravage: ah, like this one? ^
[21:02] <gordonjcp> I guess it's "secure" if it's too slow to use
[21:02] <ravage> Exactly
[21:11] <matsaman> plenty of hardware these days makes encryption plenty performant
[21:11] <matsaman> but
[21:12] <matsaman> a lot of people would be better off with a small encrypted area holding their rare, minute amounts of secure data
[21:12] <matsaman> over full disk encryption
[21:12] <matsaman> just because 1) they don't have anything someone would bother trying to get around a plain password without encryption for, and
[21:13] <matsaman> 2) if they did, once you get physical access, encryption won't stop a professional anyway
[21:13] <matsaman> but you need to know what you're getting into either way, you can't just forget your passphrases
[21:15] <ravage> *sigh*
[21:16] <leftyfb> feel free to continue the discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:59] <Guest6587> .
[23:05] <billionaire> Hello. Trying to `sudo apt-get install irssi` but get `The following packages have unmet dependencies: irssi : Depends: perl but it is not going to be installed - Depends: perlapi-5.32.1 - E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.` anybody know how to fix it?
[23:06] <jeremy31> billionaire: have you searched for an answer?
[23:07] <billionaire> jeremy31: Yes, I've tried all the supposed solutions on AskUbuntu.com
[23:08] <jeremy31> billionaire: Any PPA's in your sources?
[23:09] <billionaire> jeremy31: I have no idea what that means, sorry
[23:10] <sarnold> billionaire: do you get a more useful error message with apt install perlapi-5.32.1  ?
[23:11] <billionaire> `E: Package 'perlapi-5.32.1' has no installation candidate`
[23:13] <billionaire> Surprised how complex and non-userfriendly all this is compared to say OpenBSD's supersimple `pkg_add`
[23:13] <sarnold> billionaire: aha, okay, how about sudo apt install perl-base ?
[23:14] <billionaire> I'm out - you guys have a great day
[23:14] <billionaire> sarnold: `0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 39 not upgraded.`
[23:14] <billionaire> Cheers
[23:15] <LjL> well at least they gave it a 10 minute try
[23:16] <sarnold> heh yeah that's nine minutes more than most
[23:16] <sarnold> I'd really like to know what got that so borked
[23:21] <leftyfb> irssi installs just fine on both 20.04 and 21.04
[23:42] <optimant> Probably something held from a weird repo
[23:43] <sarnold> held package is my guess