| lotuspsychje | good morning | 01:50 |
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| ducasse | good morning | 06:16 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 06:18 |
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| lotuspsychje | tomreyn oerheks guiverc https://9to5linux.com/ubuntus-new-desktop-installer-is-now-available-for-public-testing-heres-how-to-test-it | 11:02 |
| guiverc | thanks, will look | 11:04 |
| Thaurwylth | Isn't it kind of mysterious and kind of non-mysterious that Firefox updates itself forcibly without input from the user? I mean it updates even though you don't run Apt. | 11:44 |
| JanC | sounds like you don't use the Ubuntu version of Firefox | 12:27 |
| ogra | yup, the official deb has the builtin update mechanism disabled | 12:34 |
| Thaurwylth | What does not using the Ubuntu version mean? I have definitely taken no steps to not use an Ubuntu version. Is it still possible to accidentally have a non-Ubuntu version? | 13:50 |
| Thaurwylth | This is my package, at least according to Apt: firefox/hirsute-updates,hirsute-security,now 90.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.21.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic] | 13:52 |
| daftykins | grep /var/log/apt/history.log - more than likely an unattended upgrade or something else brought it up - it doesn't update itself | 13:58 |
| Thaurwylth | Well, at one point apt list --upgradable showed 'firefox' among the list of packages, then Firefox gave me a 'Has been updated in the background, please restart' prompt, after that Firefox has disappeared on the list after apt update apt list --upgradable. | 14:31 |
| daftykins | so check the log i mentioned | 14:33 |
| Thaurwylth | Commandline: /usr/bin/unattended-upgrade | 14:40 |
| Thaurwylth | Upgrade: firefox:amd64 (90.0+build1-0ubuntu0.21.04.1, 90.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.21.04.1) | 14:40 |
| Thaurwylth | Commandline: /usr/bin/unattended-upgrade | 14:40 |
| Thaurwylth | Upgrade: firefox:amd64 (90.0+build1-0ubuntu0.21.04.1, 90.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.21.04.1) | 14:40 |
| Thaurwylth | Woooops. | 14:40 |
| Thaurwylth | So, next question, what does an unattended upgrade mean? | 14:41 |
| leftyfb | Thaurwylth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates | 14:41 |
| daftykins | it happened and you didn't attend it ;D | 14:41 |
| Thaurwylth | Hmmmm, that sounds scary. Maybe it's okay in the grand scheme of things that there's such a feature. | 14:44 |
| daftykins | the good news is, it's Linux - configure it as you prefer | 14:49 |
| leftyfb | yeah, I hate when my system keeps the most popular outward facing attack vector up to date with security updates | 14:49 |
| daftykins | that was a really unfortunate tone to add to the convo | 14:51 |
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