| guiverc | what package is most applicable for software-boutique (launchpad bug that needs to package change - as I understand it doesn't belong on lp.. but already there) | 08:30 |
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| alkisg | Are you asking "where to report a bug for software-boutique"? I avoid snaps (I purge snapd), but I guess it should be reported upstream at https://github.com/ubuntu-mate/software-boutique | 08:38 |
| alkisg | In the past, software-boutique was a .deb package, I guess that's why it's on launchpad, for its older versions (pre 16.04) | 08:39 |
| guiverc | thanks alkisg; switched 1938864 to ubuntu-mate-meta; marked in incomplete anyway | 08:45 |
| guiverc | I used https://github.com/ubuntu-mate/ubuntu-mate-welcome-legacy/issues though... should I change it? | 08:46 |
| alkisg | guiverc: I've been seeing some people that try to cleanup launchpad; why is that, are you hired to do it or are volunteering? I mean, IMHO, what should be changed on launchpad is "report ONLY ubuntu-specific bugs on launchpad; not upstream bugs" | 08:48 |
| alkisg | Now more than 50% of the reported bugs have no maintainers to answer them; and users get frustrated over this | 08:48 |
| guiverc | i'm not paid anything; volunteer only | 08:49 |
| alkisg | I think that effort is a bit in vain; the fundamental thing that needs to change on launchpad is to better inform users on when to use it | 08:51 |
| alkisg | Otherwise you'll be cleaning 100 issues, and 1000 newer ones will come, and 900 of them will never be answered | 08:51 |
| alkisg | (I've frequently done launchpad cleaning in the past for a few projects, so I'm a bit bitter about it) | 08:52 |
| guiverc | my response can be read at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-meta/+bug/1938864/comments/2 - i offered the link I said ^ & suggested ubuntu-mate's discourse too | 08:53 |
| alkisg | Currently when I get an issue, I test in a live cd of another distribution; if it happens there too, it's not ubuntu-specific, so I completely skip launchpad and go upstream | 08:53 |
| alkisg | guiverc: sure sure your response is fine, I'm just saying that your efforts are a bit in vain, the problem in launchpad isn't that it lacks cleanup volunteers... | 08:54 |
| guiverc | me; I test (thinking lubuntu) bugs on lubuntu (report on lp), confirm on another box; then test in debian-testing (rarely ahead though for lxqt), opensuse tumbleweed (usually latest), fedora (latest or rawhide) then report upstream too if confirmed on more than one. | 08:56 |
| alkisg | Right, that's excellent; I think that's what launchpad is missing. Users should be notified NOT to report bugs on lubuntu if they happen in all distributions | 09:03 |
| alkisg | Because noone will answer them on launchpad (no maintainers there for non-ubuntu projects), and people will get disappointed and will never report bugs again, anywhere | 09:04 |
| alkisg | So I think the best thing would be to start a discussion on launchpad/soyuz or even the ubuntu community forums about it, so that this notification gets on top of bugs.launchpad.net | 09:05 |
| alkisg | That would be as useful as cleaning up 100.000 issues! :D | 09:05 |
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| guiverc | alkisg, fyi: Lubuntu uses launchpad for bug tracking; LXQt (upstream) is github, etc but lp is used by lubuntu | 10:24 |
| alkisg | I mean that all lubuntu bugs that are common with other distributions shouldn't be reported to launchpad, but upstream, | 10:32 |
| alkisg | For example https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/leafpad/+bugs shouldn't have any bugs as leafpad wasn't specific to lubuntu | 10:32 |
| alkisg | lubuntu consists of 50000 packages that are common between distributions and shouldn't use launchpad and 50 packages that are specific to lubuntu and should use launchpad | 10:36 |
| alkisg | I.e. these ones: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=impish&keywords=lubuntu | 10:37 |
| leandro | what do you think about ubuntu mate? does it work well or do you prefer GNOME | 22:04 |
| superkuh | I prefer GNOME2 but Ubuntu MATE is pretty close. | 22:10 |
| bigpod | guiverc: just a note for you software-boutique is in progress of being replaced by v2 of software boutique and should be available by next release | 23:59 |
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