[11:34] good afty gang [11:34] \o [11:34] woohoo one replacement pcengines APU4 pfSense machine arrived this morning from LiniTX - my replacement after the first was faulty [16:08] any of you lot got one of these Raspberry Pi 400s? I was thinking of picking one up to drive my 3D printer and to have a simple computer on my maker desk. [16:10] no sir, but i think i read they only come in the lower RAM configuration in case that matters [16:13] they come with 4GB, should be enough. [16:18] i don't have a pi 400 but i do have 2 pi keyboards which are the same type of keyboard sans the pi part. quite nice. the 3 port usb hub built in is very nice [16:19] not a fan of the half size arrow keys or the lack of pgup pgdn home end insert but they are hard to find on small keyboards [16:20] i wouldn't be using it much beyond octoprint, web browsing and youtube. so they keyboard part would be used infrequently enough to be an issue. [16:22] i may also compile the odd bit of arduino code too [18:10] hey peepz [18:11] o/ [18:12] playing around with helium linux [18:12] on an old chromebook :) [18:12] daftykins: do you have any experiences with installing snaps and running them via the command line ? [18:12] i don't touch snaps personally! [18:13] i think i need to figure out a way to add the snaps to my path [19:52] m0nkey_, I can't say I particularly like the pi400's keyboard (I'm more partial to the deafening clack of cherry blues reverberating around the room), but as a machine it surpasses even the pi4 due to the better cooling on the C0 stepping of the SoC, and the stonking huge plate of metal that serves partly as heat-sink and partly as keyboard-stiffener [19:53] ooh didn't know it got a revision [19:53] m0nkey_, as a further vote of confidence: my 6y/o daughter used one during lock-down to connect (over google meet) to her classroom -- it (just about) handled ~30 hyperactive primary school kids all bouncing around in front of their cameras which genuinely impressed me :) [19:54] (just don't expect to manage chroma-key to change your background to "spaaaace" like one of the kids frequently did!) [19:55] daftykins, yes the CM4 and the 400 both use the C0 stepping of the 2711 which is rather better at thermal management (and a couple of other things) than the SoC in the "regular" pi4 [19:55] :D [20:22] ok, thats good to know. i'll only be using it to manage the 3d printer, program an arduino or two and maybe some youtube/web browsing [20:26] or a just buy a 8gb pi kit [20:27] more ram would be nice, but not a massive requirement [20:30] huh, so you can install regular ubuntu on it too [20:32] loads of oses you can bung on a pi these days.