| wonko[m] | Where's the best place going to be to get FFADO support? The mailing list I guess? | 08:58 |
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| sakrecoer[bpist] | Brian Hechinger yes, i would say so. But you can try shoot your question here, i for one use ffado for all my sound production | 09:07 |
| wonko[m] | I'm just trying to figure out why it can't start the AudioFire4 at 16/3 or 32/3 running the stock 5.11-lowlatency but can running 5.12-liquorix. Other info is it used to be able to just fine on 20.04 with the stock low latency kernel. I was even able to run 16/2 just fine. | 09:08 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | Brian Hechinger I take it you are doing this on ubuntustudio since you are here...? did the problem start when you installed 5.12-liquorix? I haven't ran into any such issue, but maybe try boot on Low latency after putting in a blacklist for the alsa firewire suff. That's been the magical solution for basically all my problems. let me find the doc for you... | 09:14 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/JACK_Audio_Connection_Kit#Firewire | 09:16 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | don't forget to delete the blacklist if this isn't your solution Brian Hechinger | 09:16 |
| wonko[m] | The problems started when I built the new machine and put 21.04 on it. lower than 64/3 has never worked with the stock studio lowlatency kernel under 21.04. | 09:16 |
| wonko[m] | I can definitely try that though, sounds like a good idea. | 09:17 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | try it, but if it works at 64/3 i doubt this is the issue Brian Hechinger | 09:27 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | does 64/2 work? | 09:27 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | or lower, but with 2? | 09:27 |
| wonko[m] | I've booted back into 5.11-lowlatency to try things | 09:28 |
| wonko[m] | oh, also I updated the firmware on this thing so that may affect things. | 09:29 |
| wonko[m] | but, so far 64/2 works | 09:29 |
| wonko[m] | ok 32/2 is a no go | 09:30 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | i've never bothered bellow 256 lol, but let me try and see if i can. I have a fairly fresh install to compare with... | 09:31 |
| wonko[m] | https://gist.github.com/bhechinger/2778b8ca1b9f7030f2ea1278ed50a1da | 09:31 |
| wonko[m] | `ERROR: JackAudioDriver::ProcessAsync: read error, stopping...` | 09:31 |
| wonko[m] | that seems to be the thing I don't get with 64 | 09:31 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | Brian Hechinger: after upgrading the firmware, did you start ffado and reconfigure it? | 09:32 |
| wonko[m] | when I googled that I think it was a FFADO error | 09:32 |
| wonko[m] | start ffado and configure it? | 09:32 |
| wonko[m] | how so? | 09:32 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | FFADO mixer in the desktop menu (given you are on ubuntustudio) | 09:33 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | it might need a new ID... | 09:33 |
| wonko[m] | i started ffado mixer | 09:33 |
| wonko[m] | then i tried to start jack at 32/2 | 09:33 |
| wonko[m] | and it hung ffado mixer which is no longer updating the window | 09:34 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | How are you starting jack? | 09:34 |
| wonko[m] | Studio Controls | 09:34 |
| wonko[m] | After stopping jack ffado mixer shows this: | 09:35 |
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| sakrecoer[bpist] | Ouch... | 09:36 |
| wonko[m] | and then after clicking retry it loaded the UI but then stopped responding | 09:36 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | Do you have another cable or another port to try with? | 09:36 |
| wonko[m] | I do, yes | 09:36 |
| * sakrecoer[bpist] holding thumbs for Brian | 09:37 | |
| wonko[m] | but the fact that it runs fine under liquorix tends to make me believe it's not hardware related | 09:37 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | true... | 09:37 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | but it could also be a glitchy cable that just happen to be in fine position the times it succeeded | 09:37 |
| wonko[m] | that's pretty unlikely considering nothing moves when I reboot and it's very consistent in behavior | 09:38 |
| wonko[m] | i'll switch ports just for fun though, not sure where the other cable is. :) | 09:38 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | FFADO mixer is supposed to start even if jack is not running. So i get the sensation something is up with how the firewire stuff is installed with your lowlatency kernel | 09:43 |
| wonko[m] | it started and worked fine | 09:44 |
| wonko[m] | until I started jack at 32/2 | 09:44 |
| wonko[m] | then it died | 09:44 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | will FFADO start if jack is stopped? | 09:46 |
| wonko[m] | normally it'll run in either state, yes | 09:46 |
| wonko[m] | now things are all sorts of screwed up and jack won't start even at 64/2 | 09:46 |
| wonko[m] | going to reboot back into liquorix and try all this again | 09:47 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | well... it seems like my firewire isn't working either :/ | 09:48 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | First time i try it since i reinstalled... | 09:48 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | But the FFADO mixer works | 09:50 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | Just JACK refuses to start | 09:50 |
| wonko[m] | are you on 21.04? | 09:50 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | yes | 09:50 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | 5.11.0-25-lowlatency, i take it you too? | 09:51 |
| wonko[m] | when I'm not booted into liquorix, yes | 09:51 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | let me see if the blackllist works for me though... i haven't added it and i think OvenWerks made it so that alsa gets black listed when one choses FFADO Firewire Modules in Studio Controls | 09:52 |
| wonko[m] | Hmm, I can no longer start at less than 64 even on liquorix. I get: `ERROR: firewire ERR: Could not start streaming threads` | 09:54 |
| wonko[m] | which is at least different. :) | 09:54 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | oh wow... that broke my install | 09:54 |
| wonko[m] | oops. :-D | 09:55 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | no it just made my DE very sad... but i've had problems with that since start | 09:56 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | i seem to be back in now.. but i have to go eat now so I don't become a hangry monster 👹 brb | 09:57 |
| wonko[m] | Yeah, I don't know if the new firmware is helping or causing issues. I think I'm going to put 5.7.6 back on it | 09:58 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | let me know if that made it | 10:00 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | otherwise, try eating also. 😅 for me it has proven to be one of the most effective way to solve my computer issues | 10:00 |
| wonko[m] | heh, I need to go run errands so I'll eat while out doing that. :-D | 10:02 |
| wonko[m] | I don't expect the firmware change to make a difference though, the behavior is about the same as it was | 10:03 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | still failng to get jack to start at all... | 10:41 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | wasn't there a button to access logs in studio control previously? | 10:43 |
| wonko[m] | maybe? It's all in ~/.log though so easy enough to find. :) | 10:46 |
| wonko[m] | you probably want the stuff in ~/.log/jack though as that's the actual jack process logs | 10:47 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | i don't know what i did, but it seems the typical insanity technique worked: doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different result AND getting different result... | 11:23 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | now let's see how low i can get on the buffer size. Currently 256 | 11:24 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | 16/2 working. I haven't started any applications though... | 11:24 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | 99.9% DSP lol... quite noisey too for some reason... | 11:32 |
| sakrecoer[bpist] | well probably because 99.9 😅 at 128 it's all good | 11:33 |
| wonko[m] | I guess I'm just going to be ok with 64/2. :-D | 11:39 |
| wonko[m] | I should find another drive to install 20.04 on and see if I can still run 16/2 on there | 11:39 |
| wonko[m] | I don't see how it would matter, but other than the FW card and AudioFire4 the rest of this machine is completely different. | 11:40 |
| wonko[m] | ok, this is silly | 11:43 |
| wonko[m] | I powered the machine completely off | 11:43 |
| wonko[m] | booted it back up | 11:43 |
| wonko[m] | and now I can run 32/3 under liquorix again | 11:43 |
| wonko[m] | 32/2 doesn't work | 11:47 |
| wonko[m] | 16/3 does, 16/2 doesn't | 11:49 |
| wonko[m] | 40% DSP to run 16/3 though | 11:55 |
| wonko[m] | and xruns are definitely going to be an issue | 11:55 |
| wonko[m] | 64/3 it is. :-D | 11:55 |
| wonko[m] | At least until I can get threadirqs sorted on liquorix | 12:03 |
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