| klebers | xnox, hey! the riscv meta update was already published to -proposed in case you want to test it. Also, do we need those Breaks to it? | 07:24 |
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| laney | bdmurray: almost all packages will have that. As part of initialisation we look for a pass in the history, so that we can determine if a failure is a regression or not. | 08:06 |
| klebers | sil2100, hi! Sorry, I missed your ping yesterday. The default riscv meta switch to 5.11 is already in -proposed, we can promote it to -updates as soon as all the pieces are tested together. | 08:28 |
| sil2100 | \o/ | 08:29 |
| klebers | but we also should check with xnox if adding the Breaks he suggested will be necessary. In that case we'll need to start a re-spin asap. | 08:29 |
| doko | fyi, gcc-defaults pointing to GCC 11 is now in impish-proposed, but not yet built on all archs. will follow-up once it it built everywhere | 09:45 |
| utkarsh2102 | hey, what's the correct link for reading the ubuntu-policy? | 10:40 |
| utkarsh2102 | sometime back, it was hosted on http://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/ubuntu-policy/ | 10:40 |
| utkarsh2102 | is it https://ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies? | 10:41 |
| xnox | doko: i am getting illegal instructions after building u-boot. It's using gcc-10 still, but uses gcc-11-base things. It shouldn't matter. Will try rebuilding u-boot from impish in hirsute to check if that is any better. | 10:59 |
| doko | good start ... :-/ | 11:01 |
| xnox | it's on riscv64 | 11:42 |
| GunnarHj | Hi rbasak! Would be good if you could revisit bug #1938747 and accept the focal upload too. Trevinho seems to be on vacation, and the uploader is on the alert with verification. | 13:15 |
| ubottu | Bug 1938747 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Focal) "[SRU] can't adjust output volume through volume-slider after changing output-device" [High, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1938747 | 13:15 |
| xnox | LocutusOfBorg: doko: uploaded http://launchpadlibrarian.net/551745370/debhelper_13.3.4ubuntu1_13.3.4ubuntu2.diff.gz to hopefully fix setuid and setgid bits that go missing after dh_strip. | 13:33 |
| doko | xnox, did you revert the "cat" approach that I added? | 13:34 |
| xnox | i wonder if any other similar commands that do things to binaries need to do the same. I.e. in case strip_nondeterminism operates on setuid or setgid | 13:34 |
| xnox | doko: i am keeping cat, because that preserves ownership | 13:34 |
| doko | ok | 13:34 |
| xnox | doko: i did not test if chmod --reference $file-to-modify $tempfile; followed by chmod --reference $tempfile $modified-file => does everything right. | 13:35 |
| xnox | or i.e. if chown is also needed. does binutils looses owner/group too? | 13:35 |
| xnox | "loose" -> mangle / destroy | 13:35 |
| doko | I think that thing is reverted in 3.37, which we now have in the archive | 13:36 |
| xnox | also I was confused about umask. Rules-Requires-Root: binary-targets and Rules-Requires-Root: no are different umasks, no? 0022 vs 0002 no idea if that matters. | 13:36 |
| doko | 2.37 | 13:36 |
| xnox | ah, so we might not need anything anymore?! | 13:36 |
| doko | I haven't looked to rrr yet | 13:36 |
| Trevinho | GunnarHj: not in vacation :-) | 13:38 |
| GunnarHj | Trevinho: Ah, good. Then can you please visit that bug and clarify the situation. | 13:40 |
| Trevinho | GunnarHj: mh I checked, but I wasn't involved on that, was i? | 13:43 |
| LocutusOfBorg | xnox, please forward in Debian too | 13:47 |
| LocutusOfBorg | I don't want this delta | 13:47 |
| LocutusOfBorg | in Ubuntu, for vbox | 13:48 |
| xnox | LocutusOfBorg: i'm not touching anything in virtualbox yet; trying to fix debhelper/binutils incompat in ubuntu | 13:53 |
| LocutusOfBorg | also hirsute needs fixes, or we can just set R^3: no after its EOL :D | 13:54 |
| GunnarHj | Trevinho: You became involved indirectly since you had pushed a hirsute fix of another bug to the repo, and I uploaded that. Please see comment #11. | 14:04 |
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| rbasak | GunnarHj: thank you for following up. I'm happy to just accept the Focal upload. I just want to confirm that Trevinho is happy with that, but sounds like he is? | 14:36 |
| GunnarHj | rbasak: I'm trying to find out. :) | 14:37 |
| GunnarHj | ^ | 14:37 |
| rbasak | :) | 14:39 |
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| rbasak | GunnarHj: I just went ahead and accepted gnome-control-center into Focal, seeing as nobody has objected by now. | 15:21 |
| rbasak | If that's wrong, we can always upload over the top if necessary. | 15:22 |
| rbasak | (I didn't want to hold up _this_ bug any more given we have people actively working on it) | 15:22 |
| rbasak | GunnarHj: and thank you again for sponsoring and following up! | 15:22 |
| GunnarHj | Thanks rbasak | 15:24 |
| juliank | Looking for feedback on whether delta upgrades would be a meaningful improvement for Ubuntu users, and which | 18:01 |
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| sarnold | juliank: at first I'm skeptical -- the pdiff things for debian package lists always felt vastly slower for me than just grabbing new lists entirely | 18:12 |
| sarnold | juliank: delta updates sounds appealing for folks on slow connections, but those folks also often have high-latency connections, and doing a bunch of little bursty things can take as much time as fewer larger things | 18:13 |
| juliank | sarnold: it's the same number of delta deb files as it is for deb files, though | 18:13 |
| sarnold | juliank: *iff* you allow downloading a single exact jump from whatever previous package the user has installed to whatever latest is, yeah | 18:14 |
| sarnold | juliank: if the way to jump four versions involves downloading four diffs, it'll be much more | 18:14 |
| juliank | sarnold: no jumps allowed because the delta is just passed to dpkg to install like a normal deb (it patches the installed files directly; well into .dpkg-new files) | 18:15 |
| sarnold | juliank: ah so in the case of jumping four versions, apt would just download the new version like it does today? | 18:16 |
| juliank | sarnold: yeah if no such delta exists, sure | 18:17 |
| juliank | sarnold: there was the question of how to check for the delta and verify it | 18:17 |
| juliank | sarnold: The approaches were to have an index file like Packages, just called Deltas with SHA256 and Filename fields (we just so we get a SHA256 for the delta), well and size; and then use Pdiffs for that | 18:18 |
| juliank | sarnold: And of course, my approach with a bloom filter file and an additional index file per source package | 18:19 |
| sarnold | juliank: ooo. I initially quite like that bloom filter with index-per-source idea. | 18:20 |
| juliank | sarnold: See repository layout v2 https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Dpkg/Spec/DeltaDebs | 18:21 |
| juliank | There's some stuff about unique package ids that's needed to, and it's different unique ids than what reproducible builds people want, which is distracting | 18:22 |
| sarnold | juliank: I'm reminded of perfect hash maps, eg https://docs.rs/boomphf/0.5.9/boomphf/ | 18:22 |
| sarnold | juliank: .. of course using something like this would make it awkward to add new packages to a release, so at least kernel packages would be miserable.. | 18:22 |
| juliank | sarnold: not _really_ | 18:23 |
| juliank | sarnold: so the deltas are between package ids, and can hence be across source packages | 18:23 |
| juliank | sarnold: Basically you'd look at the new ID, download the delta index if you see old ID -> new ID in bloom filter and then see if there | 18:23 |
| juliank | is really a delta | 18:24 |
| juliank | sarnold: All you have to do in the end I think is to add rename support to the delta generator | 18:24 |
| juliank | Well, maybe you want to avoid delta lookups for new installs, and hence want that rename support in apt too | 18:24 |
| juliank | So yes it can be a bit to wrap your head around | 18:25 |
| sarnold | juliank: is there a way to unapply these diffs? I'm really surprised how often I need to tell people about /var/cache/apt/archives/ to help them unstick things.. | 18:26 |
| juliank | sarnold: so you'd have to have the complete deb for that | 18:27 |
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