[01:18] Can some one clarify what kernel version should be installed with apt: is it 5.11.0-25, 5.8.0-63, or 5.4.0-66 ? [01:19] 5.11 and 5.8 will be hwe [01:25] Rusty_Almighty: this page is used to show the status of work on *future* kernel releases, so it's not 100% applicable to your question, but it does sketch out a view of the different kernels that are offered by ubuntu https://kernel.ubuntu.com/sru/dashboards/web/kernel-stable-board.html [01:51] Thank you for the information. I do have a followup about hwe. Is there a specific set of hardware that would automatically force a server to update to the 5.8.0 hwe kernel and not 5.11? [01:56] Ah.. never mind. I think I found my issue. [19:50] * enyc meows [19:56] * tomreyn devours enyc [20:31] =) [20:31] 09:09 < enyc> curious -- what sort of issues generally occurring with upstream kernels [20:31] 09:10 < enyc> in particualr is the changing situation such that lots of older 64bit pcs and graphics and so on getting "buggy due to not being tested so much" in general?