[00:12] <RAOF> mwhudson: Which archives? As far as I'm aware the ACL is “if you can upload, you can retry”
[00:12] <mwhudson> RAOF: this build, for example https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/test-rebuild-20210805-impish/+build/21946102
[00:13] <mwhudson> i guess i don't know how copy archives work
[00:13] <mwhudson> (it's actually too soon to retry these builds, i'm just trying to be prepared)
[00:14] <RAOF> Heh. Neither do I!
[00:14] <RAOF> It might just be d oko.
[00:15] <RAOF> I don't have permission to, for example.
[00:21] <mwhudson>         # Flatly refuse uploads to copy archives, at least for now.
[00:21] <mwhudson>         if self.is_copy:
[00:21] <mwhudson>             return False
[00:22] <mwhudson> so maybe it's not possible
[07:58] <egorenar> hi all, i would like an advice ho to better extend initramfs-tools scripts/hooks for building a custom initramfs image. The problem i'm facing is that i need to set MODULES to dep. And my current solution is creating a custom config within /usr/share/initramfs-tools/conf-hooks.d/ and setting it conditionally depending whether a particular shell variable is set or not. If it set then i override MODULES with dep. Do you see a problem with
[07:58] <egorenar> that ? Is there a better way ? Thanks you very much.
[08:29] <sil2100> xnox, klebers: hey! How are things looking re: LP: #1934548 ?
[08:53] <Vijay> Hi All
[08:53] <Vijay> I have some questions on ubuntu server auto install
[08:54] <Vijay> Is this the right channel to ask for help?
[10:18] <IOhannes> i'm a Debian Developer and one of my packages (src:puredata) has a bug in focal. i wonder: how can i push a fix to focal-updates?
[10:20] <IOhannes> (in Debian, the bug never made it into stable; and groovy has the fixed package, but people like to stick to LTS...)
[10:23] <rbasak> IOhannes: thank you for caring for your package in Ubuntu! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates has all the details. Please ask if you need any help with it.
[10:31] <IOhannes> rbasak: thanks.
[10:35] <IOhannes> i just checked (in a docker-container of focal), and it seems a simple rebuild of the package is sufficient to fix the issue, so i don't need an actual code change.
[10:47] <rbasak> IOhannes: we only do sourceful rebuilds in Ubuntu, so it'll still need to follow the same process please. The only source change would be a new debian/changelog entry in the rebuild-only case.
[10:48] <rbasak> IOhannes: I wouldn't trust Docker for testing though. It strips so much of the OS out, it can't be used to test the OS itself.
[10:48] <rbasak> IOhannes: a lxd container or VM would be more suitable
[10:59] <GunnarHj> Hi sil2100, Is it intentional that the language packs are not updated regularly in impish, or is it some issue? The question was brought up at bug #1939206.
[11:11] <IOhannes> rbasak: ack. i decided to boot up a VM anyhow, in order to be able to use ubuntu-bug (obviously /me is not very familiar with the specifics of Ubuntu)
[12:11] <sil2100> GunnarHj: hey! hm, let me check that
[12:33] <IOhannes> rbasak: ok i think i did everything required via https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1939293
[12:33] <IOhannes> tell me if i missed something.
[12:37] <rbasak> IOhannes: looks good, thanks. The version string should be 0.50.2-3ubuntu0.1 but I can fix that for you on upload. Could you check that it's been fixed in a newer Ubuntu release please - preferably Impish - and note that in the bug?
[12:45] <IOhannes> rbasak: thanks. i've now added a note about Impish (namely: it works!)
[12:50] <rbasak> IOhannes: sponsored, thanks!
[12:50] <rbasak> IOhannes: I added one other minor change I missed before:
[12:50] <rbasak> -Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers <debian-multimedia@lists.debian.org>
[12:50] <rbasak> +Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
[12:50] <rbasak> +XSBC-Original-Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers <debian-multimedia@lists.debian.org>
[12:50] <rbasak> That's because of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianMaintainerField and implemented in a tool called "update-maintainer" that I ran.
[12:52] <IOhannes> thanks. i guess there is no central page that would explain/mention all those little details (maintainer-field, correct version,...) (?)
[12:53] <IOhannes> but: given that you sponsored, am i correct that you do not require me to change these things and upload a new debdiff?
[12:53] <rbasak> I'm sorry that the documentation on all of this is quite poor.
[12:54] <rbasak> The SRU documentation page links to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdatePreparation#Update_the_packaging on the package version string, but it's buried in there.
[12:54] <rbasak> On update-maintainer, if using Ubuntu, then dpkg-buildpackage will complain about it if it is not done.
[12:54] <rbasak> No need to upload a new debdiff - I just modified it locally as it's not a subjective change so nothing that needed confirming with you.
[12:55] <rbasak> It's awaiting review from the SRU team now.
[12:55] <IOhannes> cool.
[12:55] <rbasak> That usually takes a few days. Then a request for verification will be posted in the bug with further instructions.
[12:55] <rbasak> Thank you again for caring for your package in Ubuntu!
[12:55] <IOhannes> fine. i'm subscribed :-)
[12:55] <IOhannes> (i would never have looked at the SecurityTeam wiki-page for this ,-))
[12:56] <rbasak> Yeah it's not at all obvious.
[12:56] <rbasak> They documented a scheme that works well. We should move it into the SRU documentation page really as a general recommendation.
[13:00] <sil2100> GunnarHj: hey! So I took a look at the langpack situation
[13:02] <sil2100> GunnarHj: so it seems l-o-m got stuck some while ago, there's a weird mechanism that when something goes really wrong, the updated-packages list stays populated with packages and no new langpacks are uploaded to the archive
[13:02] <sil2100> And when I was spinning the focal langpacks I did indeed notice that the updated-packages was not empty, but I cleared it out since I needed to do that for the focal packages
[13:03] <sil2100> This seems to have unblocked the impish translations
[13:03] <sil2100> So, it seems we have the new langpacks now migrated and they should migrate always
[13:03] <sil2100> I wonder if we should set some alert mechanism when this happens, some e-mail notification? I'll write that up in my TODO
[14:54] <GunnarHj> sil2100: Excellent, thanks! Right, an alert email would be useful.