[01:16] <m0nkey_> After seeing Tom Scott's video on London's Tower Bridge, I'm convinced it was him who broke it .. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-58149716
[01:17] <ball> I might have seen that one on twitter earlier
[01:28] <m0nkey_> Rather bad timing lol
[01:30] <m0nkey_> I see mobile providers are starting to re-introduce roaming fees. Soon you'll have a telephone billing equivalent to Canada :)
[01:31] <ball> I won't.
[01:31] <ball> Well, I will if I move to Canada...
[01:31] <m0nkey_> Can recommend moving to Canada
[01:31] <ball> The thought has occurred to me.  First step towards that is getting passports so that we can visit.
[01:32] <ball> That's far more difficult than it should be.
[01:35] <m0nkey_> Been a while since I had to apply for a UK passport
[01:35] <m0nkey_> Had mine since I was 6 .. I just renew it every 10 years
[01:36] <ball> Renewal is difficult when you live overseas though.
[01:36] <m0nkey_> Nope, no more different than renewing in the UK
[01:37] <ball> m0nkey_: Well it involves sending documents (and money) across the Atlantic in my case.
[01:37] <m0nkey_> Last renewal I did on-line, all I had to do was send a couple of passport photos along with the confirmation I had to print and my old passport. Took less than 2 weeks.
[01:37] <ball> ...and getting them for the children is rough too.
[01:39] <m0nkey_> I got to renew my kids passports for visiting the UK. That'll be a little more complicated now I'm divorced.
[01:39] <m0nkey_> I also need to get a letter from the home office to be able to apply for their UK passportsd
[01:42] <ball> Not sure whether mine will need that.
[01:42] <ball> Probably cheaper to get them US passports but UK might help for some things.
[01:45] <m0nkey_> I'm going to renew their Canadian and according to the UK passport rules I can get them a UK one too :)
[01:47] <ball> Mine should qualify but I hear they're throwing out people who were granted citizenship many years ago, so who knows?
[01:47] <ball> Perhaps it's just a waste of money.
[01:48] <m0nkey_> Meh, worth a shot. My kids meet all the criteria. 
[01:49] <m0nkey_> I want them to have citizenship, just so I can say a giant f-u to their mother. lol
[01:49] <m0nkey_> Plus I want them to have the opportunity to live/work in the UK if they chose to.
[01:51] <ball> That's a good point.
[01:51] <ball> My daughter probably shouldn't but my son might.
[01:51]  * ball shrugs
[02:53] <ball> I wouldn't have heard the tornado sirens just then if I wasn't taking the bins out.
[03:46] <ball> Off to bed, I think.
[10:18] <daftykins> mornin'
[10:31]  * zxm-pi raises periscope and confirms the situation is as terrible as daftykins has said
[10:32] <diddledani> what idiot invented this time of day?!
[10:32] <zxm-pi> the romans.
[10:32] <diddledani> bumtards!
[10:33] <daftykins> what've they ever done for us?
[10:33] <diddledani> besides the roads?
[10:33] <daftykins> :D
[10:34] <zxm-pi> would have been against brexit too i should think :-P
[10:40] <daftykins> hehe, ISP made my builder clients new PPPoE login in my name, i've asked that they change that now
[10:40] <diddledani> oops
[11:06] <daftykins> they say they're doing the switcheroo on Friday, so i may have to attend to reconfigure things
[11:06] <daftykins> been waiting for the fella to throw some cat6 in himself, so i can set up yet another Ubiquiti WiFi AP setup