[00:00] <cbreak> Genius: which ever protocol you want obviously
[00:00] <leftyfb> cbreak: go read the documentation for unrealircd. It's not an officially supported application in ubuntu
[00:00] <biscuitbutter[m]> How do I look at the partition table or choose the GA kernel option
[00:01] <cbreak> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat#Technical_information
[00:01] <matsaman> biscuitbutter[m]: GA?
[00:01] <leftyfb> biscuitbutter[m]: have you tried the HWE kernel?
[00:02] <matsaman> General Availability
[00:03] <tomreyn> biscuitbutter[m]: sudo fdisk -l | nc termbin.com 9999    will post info on your partition tables on termbin.com, so we can also inspect it
[00:03] <tomreyn> this only works when you have a working internet connection, such as from the live / installer system
[00:03] <tomreyn> (or from the installed system by other means than the non-working wthernet)
[00:03] <matsaman> I've always found the update-while-installing option to be highly problematic
[00:04] <biscuitbutter[m]> tomreyn: Okay thanks, I will try this during the live session.
[00:04] <matsaman> there's no way anybody's done all the QA for that
[00:05] <biscuitbutter[m]> matsaman: There's a way to turn this off?
[00:05] <tomreyn> biscuitbutter[m]: a knowledgebase article on dell.com suggests the partition error at boot can be a bios bug https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/de-de/000132051/how-to-fix-an-invalid-partition-table-error-on-a-system-with-a-ssd-solid-state-drive?lang=en  latest bios update is https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=x26vm&oscode=wt64a&productcode=latitude-3150-laptop
[00:06] <tomreyn> biscuitbutter[m]: 'install updates during installation' (or similar) is an option during installation. i think ti is disabled by default.
[00:07] <tomreyn> (i don't (yet?) see how that's related to your issue, though)
[00:08] <biscuitbutter[m]> tomreyn: There is an SSD in my laptop. So that may fix the partition table error, but not the ethernet error. I'll still do this though.
[00:10] <tomreyn> biscuitbutter[m]: the ethernet issue is probably a driver problem, i'd look into that next. once you're on the live system, post this as well:   lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller' | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:11] <biscuitbutter[m]> ok. so I don't need to put a windows iso onto the usb, i just need to put the .exe file onto the usb? or no since ubuntu is linux
[00:11] <biscuitbutter[m]>  * ok. so I don't need to put a windows iso onto the usb to install the bios from the usb, i just need to put the bios .exe file onto the usb? or no since ubuntu is linux
[00:14] <tomreyn> biscuitbutter[m]: bring up the live system first of all, i'll see how to do the bios upgrade in the meantime
 "biscuitbutter: bring up the live..." <- I figured out how to update the bios and already noticed an improvement, now I actually see gnu grub, I hadn't seen it until now
[00:24] <tomreyn> you don't usually get to see grub during boot, unless you're holding down shift (bios boot) or hitting escape once (uefi boot) during boot
[00:27] <biscuitbutter[m]> Does it matter whether I do legacy or uefi boot? My boot method should be the same as the original installation, right?
[00:28] <tomreyn> it should not matter for the live/installer system unless you're planning to install, it will matter for the on-disk installation, where you'll need to use the same mode as you installed in
[00:33] <biscuitbutter[m]> https://termbin.com/8taf
[00:33] <biscuitbutter[m]> The other command gave me errors, do I need to include sudo for that too?
[00:34] <tomreyn> biscuitbutter[m]: "the other command" was   lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller' | nc termbin.com 9999    i assume?
[00:34] <tomreyn> no need for sudo there, but you probably had a typo then - consider just copying and pasting instead
[00:36] <tomreyn> biscuitbutter[m]: other than the usb connected storage device (60 GB), only a TOSHIBA MQ01ACF0 500 GB hard disk was detected,no SSD.
[00:37] <biscuitbutter[m]> oh right. i guess the ebay seller scammed me then. that's irrelevant to this though
[00:38] <tomreyn> upgrading the bios was probably good anyways, though, based on the latest versions' changelog about battery swelling
[00:40] <biscuitbutter[m]> https://termbin.com/0lv2
[00:45] <tomreyn> biscuitbutter[m]: okay, maybe then the GA kernel is really better for you. are you able to bring the system online by other means after installing?
[00:45] <tomreyn> i.e. wireless lan, or a smartphone connected with a cable and set to tethering mode?
[00:47] <biscuitbutter[m]> I've tried configuring wifi but idk how since it requires an ssid. i could try using a smartphone though
[00:48] <tomreyn> it "requires and ssid"?, how so, are you prompted to enter one by keyboard, or do you just not have access to a wireless access point?
[00:50] <biscuitbutter[m]> I know how to login on windows it's easy, i just put in a username and password
[00:50] <biscuitbutter[m]> but idk how to login to the wifi on linux. i'll try the smartphone idea
[00:51] <tomreyn> the same user experience on Ubuntu should be the same as you discussed for Windows, unless you have wireless chipset which the manufactrurer did not provide good linux support for.
[00:52] <tomreyn> what you're saying sounds like the latter is the case for yours
[00:53] <biscuitbutter[m]> it's either that or idk which option to select for security, but you're probably right
[00:54] <biscuitbutter[m]>  * it's either that or idk which option to select for security, but you're probably right. so I guess the solution is keeping the GA kernel?
[00:56] <tomreyn> biscuitbutter[m]: a workaround may be to move to tracking the GA kernel only, removing the HWE kernel
[00:57] <biscuitbutter[m]> tomreyn: How do I do this?
[00:58] <TJ-> note: there are some systems where network connection is /either/ wired Ethernet or Wireless, but not both at once.
[00:59] <biscuitbutter[m]> I found this command  sudo apt install --install-recommends linux-generic
[01:00] <biscuitbutter[m]>  * I found this command  sudo apt install --install-recommends linux-generic ; should I do this during the live session before I install?
[01:00] <TJ-> biscuitbutter[m]: no
[01:00] <biscuitbutter[m]> @tj-
[01:00] <TJ-> biscuitbutter[m]: that won't change anything, especiall in the live session
[01:01] <TJ-> biscuitbutter[m]: what does "rfkill list" report? anything blocked or soft-blocked?
[01:04] <biscuitbutter[m]> TJ-: No, weird.
[01:05] <biscuitbutter[m]> oh nvm it works now, cool
[01:05] <biscuitbutter[m]> weird, what a massive waste of time this all was. oh well, at least i upgraded my bios. Thank you!
[01:16] <Lago> test: https://www.dropbox.com/s/f5e08tu3ca4rh76/lago%20on%20libera.chat%20irc%20network%20%20ubuntu%20%28901%20users%29%20%28cjnt%20510%29%202021-08-09%2020-16-06.jpg
[01:17] <tomreyn> Lago: is this an ubuntu support topic?
[01:18] <Lago> stfu
[01:43] <Croran> what's the fanciest IRC client available from Ubuntu official repos?
[01:45] <oerheks> clli or gui ?
[01:45] <oerheks> hexchat vs irssi
[01:47] <matsaman> ^ those are the big choices
[01:47] <oerheks> go wild on irssi scripting, or use a reliable rich client
[01:48] <Croran> oerheks: fanciest! no cli! haha
[01:48] <matsaman> https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=172
[01:48] <Croran> hexchat is GTK?
[01:48] <oerheks> hexchat is the supported xchat fork
[01:48] <oerheks> yes
[01:48] <Croran> matsaman: comic chat lol
[01:48] <matsaman> =D
[01:48] <Croran> that was a good idea really. too bad it didn't take off.
[01:49] <matsaman> well, it's not like it'd be hard to reimplement
[01:50] <Croran> well yeah, but you'd need the marketing to get it going
[01:50] <matsaman> lot of IRC "competitors" do avatars, too
[01:50] <Croran> oh yeah?
[01:50] <Croran> hexchat?
[01:50] <matsaman> nah you only need marketing if you need to make money
[01:50] <matsaman> and even then, only if you need to make money on a product people don't want to buy
[01:50] <matsaman> not hexchat, no
[01:50] <matsaman> hexchat is an IRC client
[01:50] <matsaman> there are competing systems other than IRC
[01:50] <matsaman> and their clients allow for avatars
[01:50] <Croran> oh
[01:51] <Croran> like what?
[01:51] <oerheks> irc does no webcam
[01:51] <matsaman> doesn't matter they all suck at the moment
[01:51] <matsaman> they're all proprietary
[01:51] <Croran> ah
[01:51] <matsaman> well all the popular ones
[01:51] <matsaman> mattermost is free & open source, IIRC
[01:51] <matsaman> but it's not presented as a hosted just-join community
[01:51] <matsaman> it's for local private systems
[01:52] <matsaman> and then there's mumble
[01:52] <Croran> yeah hexchat looks pretty nice. i like that it seems to default to a fixed-width font.
[01:52] <matsaman> which I know less about, but it's free/open
[01:52] <toddc> weechat screen
[01:52] <matsaman> fixed with is very sensible in a text only medium
[01:55] <kevin38> Hey. Is there a way to get the proper host names of a few raspberry pi's that I have on my network using Ubuntu ? nmap returns info: Raspberry Pi Foundation as the hostname. I have set the raspberry pis with proper hostnames.
[01:57] <biscuitbutter[m]> I'm confused. So if I want to keep LTS, then I should never update?
[01:57] <Croran> kevin38: if you set the hostnames, then why do you need to 'get' them? you already know, right?
[01:58] <Croran> kevin38: if you want those hostnames to be usable from other PCs then you need to either set up your own DNS, or put HOSTS files on each of the machines on your LAN
[01:58] <kevin38> I have 20-25 of them. I just want to make sure that they are on and available. So, It helps knowing.. Which hostnames are online at that moment.
[01:59] <Croran> kevin38: ok you might want some network monitoring software. one is Nagios, another is MRTG
[01:59] <Croran> i don't have much experience with either.
[02:01] <oerheks> biscuitbutter[m], not until you got a new LTS release announcement
[02:01] <oerheks> and !hwe
[02:01] <kevin38> Croran Thanks !
[02:01] <oerheks> !hwe
[02:02] <kevin38> I am looking into it right now
[02:04] <Croran> kevin38: you're welcome
[02:09] <biscuitbutter[m]> Unsupported file error
[02:10] <oerheks> must be a non open format, lolz
[02:10] <oerheks> and just spawning a random eeror is not oke, you must share details
[02:14] <biscuitbutter[m]> oerheks: My bad, I figured it out, I will be more specific in the future.
[03:08] <th3g3ntl3man> Hey guys
[03:10] <Croran> Hey.
[03:11] <gnux> hi
[03:11] <Croran> Hey does anyone else have this problem with Nautilus? You switch to thumbnail view, increase the size to maybe 200% and then you scroll down a ways and click an item, and then the view scrolls back up unexpectedly?
[03:12] <Croran> more noticeable when you try to ctrl+select multiples.
[03:47] <gnux> can someone help me compile a kernel
[03:49] <gnux> there is something wrong with the debian/scripts when the kernel is about to be compiled. then it crashes what should i do to compile a kernel successfully
[03:56] <Croran> just me huh?
[04:27] <Ali-Karam> hello, how do I configure oidentd? I'm using my mobile's hotspot
[04:33] <guiverc> gnux, you've provided no OS & specifics (what release/product etc), but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel maybe helpful  (assuming normal *deb* based Ubuntu system)
[04:33] <gnux> ubuntu focal
[04:36] <Ali-Karam> ubuntu 21.04
[04:37] <gnux> 20.04
[05:43] <Croran> yeah Quassel is pretty bad.
[05:44] <Croran> no dark theme, and even manual color adjustment is buggy.
[05:44] <Croran> and even when it works, you can't change the color of the chat server list and user list.
[05:44] <Croran> and some bots apparently use a subscript text and quassel cuts it off with the next line.
[06:11] <Nitrousoxide> Croran: check your PMs
[06:28] <Croran> okay you're right it's not bad if you do a bunch of extra stuff
[06:29] <Croran> https://imgur.com/a/YCutb3W
[06:29] <Croran> ty nos
[06:31] <questiontux> hi, a long time opensuse user here, looking at kubuntu
[06:31] <questiontux> and i have questions regarding snaps
[06:32] <questiontux> what are their advantages compared to flatpaks
[06:32] <Croran> Why don't you like OpenSUSE? I thought it was like, the premiere distro for KDE.
[06:32] <questiontux> and is there more software available for snaps?
[06:32] <Croran> last time i tried installing some additional snaps, they were pretty much all broken, and most of the maintainers don't really maintain them.
[06:32] <Guest83> does any1 know how to install wordpress on this root document /var/www/html/john?
[06:33] <questiontux> Croran, I am more of a stable release conservative user, and I have a couple of issues: tumbleweed is getting promoted more and more, and i posted some bugs for Leap on bugzilla, and they're not addressed
[06:33] <Croran> Guest83: that's a super vague question and I'd suggest wordpress support is beyond the scope of #ubuntu.
[06:33] <questiontux> I appreciate the compatibility of enterprise linux and opensuse leap
[06:33] <questiontux> but it seems they release it and leave it be
[06:34] <questiontux> which leaves you with a year of issues
[06:34] <Croran> ah interesting
[06:34] <questiontux> I feel all the attention goes to tumbleweed
[06:34] <questiontux> (though it may be my subjective feeling, i admit)
[06:34] <Guest83> Croran ok
[06:34] <questiontux> the distro does feel quite premiere and really professional
[06:35] <questiontux> but according to opensuse stats, more and more users are on tumbleweed with regular releases being left more and more for servers
[06:35] <questiontux> and i don't feel like installing a gig of updates every two days
[06:35] <questiontux> even if i have a chance of rolling back
[06:36] <Croran> makes sense. well last time i tried kubuntu it was pretty buggy. admittedly that was like 10 years ago.
[06:36] <Croran> but everyone said ubuntu wasn't the best distro for kde
[06:37] <Croran> personally, I'm a Unity user and still happy with that
[06:38] <Croran> I gave GNOME a fair shot when i upgraded to 20.04, but too many things about it sucked.
[06:43] <questiontux> oh croran, that's good to know :D
[06:43] <questiontux> then it seems i'm better off with opensuse :)
[06:44] <Croran> tell me what you don't like about KDE. if anything.
[06:44] <questiontux> i love kde
[06:44] <questiontux> what's not to like :D
[06:45] <Croran> does it still have the default setup with the terrible 'start menu' and you have to replace it with a third-party one to get basic stuff like a text search to find applications?
[06:45] <Croran> does it still have 'plasmoids'?
[06:45] <Nitrousoxide> Croran: No problem man
[06:45] <questiontux> as for plasmoids, i don't know what you think
[06:45] <questiontux> but as search in the start menu - works perfectly for me
[06:46] <Croran> good. i remember when there was no search unless you customized the menu.
[06:46] <questiontux> don't remember that (may be too long back)
[06:46] <questiontux> i was a gnome user for couple of years
[06:46] <questiontux> tried kde at the end of the 4.x series
[06:46] <Croran> well may have been a kubuntu-specific issue too
[06:46] <questiontux> and got hooked
[06:46] <questiontux> i setup everything i like
[06:47] <questiontux> and just roll, but every little thing is customizable
[06:47] <Croran> oh yeah. see i was on it for 3.x and it was maybe the best premium DE at that time
[06:47] <Croran> and then 4.x came and it was completely terrible
[06:47] <Croran> for the first... 3 or 4 minor revisions
[06:49] <questiontux> how's unity these days
[06:50] <questiontux> it was quite nice back then
[07:31] <McE> hi.., why does "iwlist wlan0 scan |grep -i ssid " is printing only half the line.., until the first space..., and then cuts the find into two lines.., how do i manage to have output in a single line ?
[07:32] <McE>  cuts the matchinto into two lines.., how do i manage to have output in a single line ?
[07:48] <docmax> anyone sucessfully installed ubuntu on an iscsi target? i have troubles.
[07:53] <McE> hi..,  how do i cause "iwlist wlan0 scan |grep -i ssid " to print an ssid with a whitespace in it on a single line, instead of printing it in two lines ?
[07:57] <grtestuser> test
[07:58] <grtestuser> which tool 4 repair the bootloader?
[07:58] <grtestuser> a grub
[07:59] <alkisg> McE: example output?
[07:59] <alkisg> Do you mean that you get multiple ssids and you only want the first one?
[08:04] <grtestuser> not available, example output
[08:05] <EriC^^> grtestuser: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[08:05] <grtestuser> no internet available
[08:06] <grtestuser> but - i'll look it up in an i@offee
[08:08] <McE> alkisg, no .
[08:08] <McE> hi..,  how do i cause "iwlist wlan0 scan |grep -i ssid " to print an ssid on a single line
[08:08] <McE> alkisg,
[08:09] <McE> the ssid, has whitespaces in it...
[08:09] <McE> empty spaces..
[08:10] <McE> like SSID: "My Wlan No. 2"
[08:10] <McE> like 4 words...
[08:11] <McE> here is would print the words in different lines
[08:15] <alkisg> McE: that doesn't make sense, can you upload the whole output of your `iwlist wlan0 scan`?
[08:16] <alkisg> Like: iwlist wlan0 scan | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:17] <McE> alkisg, sorry i am on a windows pc , right now.., but maybe later on...
[08:17] <alkisg> OK. In general, "grep" doesn't produce more lines
[08:17] <alkisg> So you're mis-reporting something; the whole output would be needed to see what
[09:23] <Endo22> hi
[09:25] <Endo22> was wondering if any one can help me in this regard. using ubntu 20.04 LTS. I am unable to see USB option when trying to upload or download anything from USB online. But USB is accessible from file manager.
[09:34] <yxhuvud> So hmm. Given a custom kernel, how do I get a `perf` with support for libunwind nowadays? kernel was installed from kernel-ppa, but that doesn't have the tools-deb so I had to build perf by myself, which worked, except for the libunwind stuff :(
[09:40] <yxhuvud> I found some old answers (~2014), but those only had fixes that were already merged upstream and present in the current code
[11:02] <wonko[m]> Wine/proton game stability (in some games) has degraded going from 20.04 to 21.04 (Ubuntu Studio). Are there any known issues regarding this? I've so far been unable to figure out what the issue is. For example BL2 went from being rock solid to randomly freezing. There was also a hardware change in there as well but I'm sceptical of that being a cause.
[11:14] <SysGhost> Could be your wine config is set to try native libs first, then the builtin ones. When you updated some of the libs went missing, so wine had to go for the builtin ones which could be less stable/have issues.
[11:15] <SysGhost> It's just my guess though.
[11:30] <Ali-Karam> hello again, how do I configure oidentd? I'm using my mobile's hotspot .. trying to get rid of the ~ in front of my username on irc by having an Ident reply to the irc server.
[11:31] <Ali-Karam>  https://bpa.st/SVJQ these are my /etc/oidentd.conf & ~/.oidentd.conf
[12:41] <Sadistic_Dyke_Ne> Hi
[12:42] <UED> Hello
[12:42] <Sadistic_Dyke_Ne> Need Help with Realtek RTL8822BE
[12:43] <UED> Does someone know, if Ubuntu mounts automically NTFS HDDs, when running it from a DVD? I would like not to have them mounted.
[12:44] <Sadistic_Dyke_Ne> no it doesn't do that automatically @UED
[12:44] <cbreak> if they were mounted, you could unmount them again?
[12:45] <UED> Nice, thanks for the quick reply!
[12:45] <Sadistic_Dyke_Ne> @cbreak of couse through GUI
[12:45] <Sadistic_Dyke_Ne> @UED u're welcome
[12:45] <Sadistic_Dyke_Ne> @cbreak nautilus
[12:45] <cbreak> I was more thinking about sudo umount /whereever
[12:45] <cbreak> but sure, that probably also works
[12:47] <tuxinator> Dear Ubuntu Users, i am looking for a list of the default UserGroups in Ubuntu and their permissions/meaning, could not find any Documentation.
[12:49] <hightower4> Hey where can I find a repo of all ubuntu releases and binary packages? On http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ there is only some selection, not older than xenial or so...
[12:50] <UED> Hmm, is there a overview/list of preinstalled programs for the current release?
[13:22] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:34] <bryan_> :)
[13:59] <Ali-Karam> hello, how do I configure oidentd? I'm using my mobile's hotspot .. trying to get rid of the ~ in front of my username on irc by having an Ident reply to the irc server. https://bpa.st/SVJQ these are my /etc/oidentd.conf & ~/.oidentd.conf
[14:10] <rapid16> Is Unity2d/3d specifically game programming API?
[14:27] <leftyfb> Ali-Karam: try this in /etc/default/oidentd  https://termbin.com/ixro
[14:29] <Ali-Karam> leftyfb, I have the same just OIDENT_OPTIONS="-mf -l 10"
[14:31] <ogra> :q
[14:40] <gaoc> hello
[14:40] <gaoc> hello
[14:56] <digup> Hello guys, I have ran into problem when trying to install Virtualbox-6.1 through "apt"
[14:56] <digup> then upon uninstalling I get error messages too
[14:56] <digup> here's a log
[14:57] <digup> https://pastebin.com/YtDtui2W
[14:59] <BluesKaj> autoremove?
[15:00] <digup> that gives me error
[15:00] <digup> the log is in the pastebin
[15:00] <digup> it's just combined both
[15:01] <BluesKaj> use apt remove virtualbox
[15:01] <BluesKaj> not autoremove
[15:09] <alkisg> digup: frequently, virtualbox isn't compatible with the -hwe kernels (5.11), but it's always compatible with the -ga kernels (5.4)
[15:09] <alkisg> Either install the generic kernel, or apt purge virtualbox-dkms
[15:17] <docmax> how can i add support for iscsi to ubuntu?
[15:19] <leftyfb> docmax: how far have you got? What issues have you run into?
[15:19] <docmax> i installed ubuntu 21 to an image
[15:20] <docmax> i exported the image as iscsi target
[15:20] <docmax> i sanboot into that target... it boots but drops me into initramfs
[15:20] <docmax> so i guess i have to add iscsi support to initramfs?
[15:21] <docmax> i though netroot= kernel parameter would be sufficient
[15:21] <docmax> how has the image to be modified to run?
[15:22] <ogra> docmax, how about https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/installation-iscsi/11321
[15:23] <cornfeedhobo> hello and good day. I need some help. I have a newly installed stock ubuntu 20 workstation with no built in gpu and a nvidia card. Everything was working smoothly with the stock gonme. After running `apt install kde-full`, setting sddm when prompted, and rebooting, the gpu seems to not be being used after grub finishes
[15:23] <docmax> yeah, THIS is not working as described!!! i boot without disks... and ubuntu says the is no space to install ubuntu
[15:23] <leftyfb> !yy.mm | cornfeedhobo
[15:24] <docmax> no option to load a iscsi target
[15:25] <cornfeedhobo> leftyfb: 20.04.2
[15:27] <cornfeedhobo> aaanyways, since i'm pretty sure that's irrelevant, I've chrooted back into the system and looking around. but I'm not seeing something obvious. so my question is; is there some steps that I'm missing when switching from the stock wayland/gnome setup to x11/plasma?
[15:36] <Kon> cornfeedhobo: Try installing kubuntu-desktop and see if you get anything that wasn't in the kde-full metapackage
[15:52] <cornfeedhobo> hmm that's a good idea. let me check that out.
[15:53] <cornfeedhobo> from what i can tell, sddm was starting, but there is some config that didn't pick up the nvidia card, but i don't know what that would be
[15:56] <cornfeedhobo> oh, am i mistaken? I thought ubuntu switched to wayland for 20.x
[15:56] <cornfeedhobo> so the stock gnome is x11 too?
[16:09] <cornfeedhobo> well, i can ssh in, but still no display
[16:16] <cornfeedhobo> switching to another pty activates the card again.
[16:16] <cornfeedhobo> x11 has a nvidia config as expected
[16:39] <rootkea> Hello!
[16:39] <rootkea> I updated my Ubuntu 20.04 in the afternoon and now VLC doesn't show video. I can hear audio playing. In terminal I get "hardware accelerator failed to decode picture" error message multiple times.
[16:39] <rootkea> Here is the complete log: https://pastebin.com/raw/93tiub2c
[16:40] <rootkea> I purged and installed vlc again but still no video output.
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> rootkea: pastebin; sudo lshw -C video please?
[16:42] <rootkea> lotuspsychje: `-C` doesn't seem to be a correct flag. It shows help instead.
[16:43] <rootkea> Oops
[16:43] <SnoopJ> it's an alias for -class, if your lshw has that
[16:43] <rootkea> Got it. Wait a moment.
[16:44] <rootkea> Here is `lshw -C video` o/p: https://pastebin.com/raw/JmT4sRtw
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> rootkea: ok tnx, seems like your graphics driver is good
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> rootkea: maybe share your dmesg in a paste, so volunteers can take a closer look?
[16:52] <rootkea> lotuspsychje: Here's `sudo dmesg` o/p: https://pastebin.com/raw/6tEePXi4
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> rootkea: you got the same issue on other players like smplayer, or whatever default on your DE?
[16:55] <leftyfb> rootkea: try booting into the previous kernel
[16:56] <rootkea> leftyfb: Sure. Let me reboot the system.
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> a few of these repeat in his dmesg EDAC amd64: ECC disabled in the BIOS or no ECC capability, module will not load
[17:01] <rootkea> leftyfb: Oh I forgot to mention. I don't see GRUB menu at all. After vendor's logo Ubuntu boots directly. So where can I select the previous kernel?
[17:02] <leftyfb> rootkea: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[17:02] <leftyfb> rootkea: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/07/key-to-show-grub-menu-ubuntu
[17:04] <rootkea> Thanks! Let me try Escape key.
[17:05] <leftyfb> rootkea: I'm pretty sure the shift key is the one
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> some cases grub doesnt trigger, might need a manual edit
[17:19] <Guest58> anyone know how to run wordpress at the root document /var/www/html/john?
[17:20] <leftyfb> Guest58: that is a really loaded question. You are probably asking about an #apache config
[17:21] <Guest58> like i want to install it on my root document
[17:21] <mneptok> what httpd are you using?
[17:22] <rootkea> leftyfb: I tried both `Escape` and Shift keys but still didn't see GRUB menu. :(
[17:22] <rootkea> I have 5.4.0-77 and 5.4.0-80 kernel images installed. I just don't know how to select 5.4.0-77 (previous one)
[17:22] <Guest58> apache2
[17:23] <leftyfb> Guest58: this is what you want https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-18-04-quickstart
[17:23] <mneptok> Guest58: grep -i 'DocumentRoot' /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf
[17:24] <leftyfb> mneptok: that is very wrong
[17:24] <leftyfb> mneptok: this is an #ubuntu support channel
[17:27] <Guest58> @leftyfb i want wordpress to be installed on my root document
[17:28] <rootkea> Editing the `/etc/default/grub` now. Hopefully, on reboot I'll see the grub menu. 🤞
[17:28] <leftyfb> Guest58: why do you want to do it that way as opposed to a virtualhost?
[17:29] <mneptok> leftyfb: i'm aware of this channel's purpose.
[17:29] <leftyfb> Guest58: btw, DocumentRoot for a virtualhost is wherever you want it
[17:30] <Guest58> because i  want to access and install the wordpress website
[17:30] <Guest58> ok
[17:31] <leftyfb> Guest58: ok, so you don't actually have a reason to install it to /var/www/html/john. You should setup a virtualhost for a user called "john" who's home is in /home/john/ and maybe the DocumentRoot can be /home/john/WWW/. Follow the link I posted above
[17:34] <Guest58> ok
[17:39] <rootkea> Okay. I give up! I set `GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=menu` and `GRUB_TIMEOUT=10` but still no grub menu on boot.
[17:39] <rootkea> I'll see if I can reproduce this when I shift to Debian next week.
[17:39] <rootkea> Thanks for the help though. :)
[17:41] <EriC^^> rootkea: did you try the record variable?
[17:44] <EriC^^> GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=$GRUB_TIMEOUT
[17:48] <rootkea> Oops! I had forgotten to `$ sudo update-grub` after updating `/etc/default/grub`
[17:48] <rootkea> After doing update-grub now I see the grub menu. :)
[17:48] <rootkea> I can report that the "no video on VLC" issue remains as it is on 5.4.0-77 too. Now let me boot into recovery entries of both the kernels to see if it makes any difference.
[17:49] <rootkea> EriC^^: Didn't have to. :)
[17:49] <EriC^^> ah good :)
[18:00] <rootkea> I don't know what's wrong with vlc but smplayer, GNOME videos play the same video without any issue.
[18:04] <rootkea> lotuspsychje: ^
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> rootkea: ok great, so we could assume thats a vlc fault
[18:49] <coconut> that's weird if you look at it's reputation of vlc
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> coconut: not sure yet, but could be something like bug #1936844 for example
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> rootkea: lets try something else, create a new second user and go test vlc there please?
[18:55] <audiocat> which iso should i download for an ubuntu server?
[18:56] <[itchyjunk]> Dumb question, real quick. it says `21 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.` do i just `sudo apt upgrade` and it will do it all for me?
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> rootkea: this could be interesting too, bug #1917432
[18:58] <sarnold> audiocat: there's some options on https://ubuntu.com/download/server that might help you decide which download to use
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate | [itchyjunk]
[18:58] <SnoopJ> in other words, yes
[18:58] <[itchyjunk]> lotuspsychje, and okay i'll do the upgrade part too
[19:07] <evert_> do you want one ?
[19:08] <evert_> whoops sorry
[19:11] <rootkea> lotuspsychje: I created fresh user. Experienced the same VLC issue with exact same error message printed on terminal.
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> tnx for testing that rootkea
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> rootkea: check that previous bug #1917432 see if your symptons are the same?
[19:14] <rootkea> lotuspsychje: Nope, I see only one progress bar. Everything is usual. Audio, window everything. Just that there's no video. Blank screen.
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> rootkea: you hear audio playing?
[19:15] <rootkea> Yes. I think I mentioned that in my very first message too. :)
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> rootkea: well you got a lot of similar details as the bug above, maybe fill in a new comment on this bug with your story
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> rootkea: or create a new, also possible; ubuntu-bug vlc
[19:35] <rootkea> lotuspsychje: Done. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/1939447
[19:36] <lotuspsychje> thank you for your report rootkea
[19:38] <ioria> rootkea, have you tried to disable Hardware acceleration in vlc ?
[19:38] <coconut> audiocat, normally you just want the latest LTS
[19:40] <coconut> audiocat, https://releases.ubuntu.com/20.04/ubuntu-20.04.2-live-server-amd64.iso.torrent
[19:40] <coconut> or
[19:40] <coconut> https://releases.ubuntu.com/20.04/ubuntu-20.04.2-live-server-amd64.iso
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> rootkea: also add to the bug you tested a new user, tnx
[19:43] <rootkea> ioria: Since the issue is with hardware accelerator ("hardware accelerator failed to decode picture") disabling hardware acceleration does show the video.
[19:43] <rootkea> But I would like to use the hardware acceleration. The way it was already being used till today's afternoon when I upgraded the packages.
[19:44] <ioria> rootkea, what packages ?
[19:45] <rootkea> I don't remember exactly. Is there any way to see the history of `apt upgrade`?
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> dpkg logs
[19:45] <ioria> 7var/log/apt/history.log rootkea
[19:45] <rootkea> Thanks! Let me check.
[19:53] <rootkea> lotuspsychje: Here are the packages that I upgraded and then I stared to experience this vlc issue: https://pastebin.com/raw/Apevt42K
[19:53] <rootkea> I see `mesa` driver packages there which are a probable culprits.
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> yeah that could well be rootkea
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> something for the devs to workout, above my knowledge rootkea
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> rootkea: at least you been able to rule out a lot of things right
[19:55] <rootkea> lotuspsychje: Sure. How can I rollback these mesa driver packages? That is, to install previous versions
[19:56] <rootkea> That will surely help zeroing on the exact package.
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> well downgrading packages is not how ubuntu works exactly
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> could be interesting to browse recent mesa bugs then
[20:01] <rootkea> There are two versions 20.0.4-2ubuntu1 and 21.0.3-0ubuntu0.2~20.04.1 (currently installed) available for these 3 driver packages.
[20:01] <rootkea> I think I need to install 20.0.4-2ubuntu1 and purge 21.0.3-0ubuntu0.2~20.04.1 ones.
[20:06] <tomreyn> you could also try 21.0.3-0ubuntu0.3~20.04.1 from focal-proposed
[20:06] <tomreyn> (or read up on the bug tracker first)
[20:14] <rootkea> tomreyn: I would like to stay away from `proposed`. Testing packages may carry new bugs. Instead I'm thinking of reverting to the previous version which was working correctly.
[20:16] <tomreyn> rootkea: fine with me, i just wanted to provide more options.
[20:17] <rootkea> Sure. Thanks or the suggestion. :)
[20:38] <ash_worksi> why doesn't `sudo login ash_m PS1='login1# '` not set the prompt after I log in?
[20:46] <rootkea> So downgrading `mesa-vdpau-drivers` fixed the issue!
[20:47] <ogra> you should then report that with "ubuntu-bug mesa-vdpau-drivers" 😉
[20:47] <ogra> so devs know it needs fixing
[20:57] <rootkea> ogra: Done. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1939455
[21:01] <ogra> 👍
[21:27] <roltux> hi
[22:36] <JumpinJimmy> Can anyone help me? I'm having trouble getting Ubuntu to load from DVD.
[22:36] <sarnold> an actual dvd?
[22:37] <JumpinJimmy> yes, burned DVD
[22:37] <JumpinJimmy> DVD is properly burned, but on restart, it says it cannot boot from this device.
[22:37] <JumpinJimmy> i've gone through this link, but still having no luck  https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/try-ubuntu-before-you-install#2-boot-from-dvd
[22:37] <oerheks> UEFI bios ?
[22:37] <JumpinJimmy> also tried this one. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD?_ga=2.135387569.1211454995.1628632146-289697072.1628632146
[22:38] <JumpinJimmy> UEFI is set to allow it to boot, BIOS is set for legacy.  I feel like i'm missing something simple
[22:39] <oerheks> secureboot should be oke, just make sure fastboot is disabled
[22:39] <coryc257> secure boot shenanigans?
[22:39] <oerheks> !uefi
[22:39] <JumpinJimmy> it will let me manually crawl through the directories on the CD to find the boot file, but won't boot.
[22:41] <JumpinJimmy> secure boot automatically disables when enabling Legacy mode
[22:41] <JumpinJimmy> ubottu, are you suggesting i can't Live CD and that it must be installed?
[22:41] <jjavaholic> what is the appropriate steps to get fan speed to adjust to CPU/GPU load?
[22:43] <tomreyn> JumpinJimmy: ubottu  is actually a bot, a script. ;-) and no, it's not suggesting that - it would be nonsense, since the DVD is both live system and installer.
[22:43] <jjavaholic> using 4.13.0-36-generic
[22:43] <coryc257> are you using an hp laptop by chance?
[22:43] <tomreyn> JumpinJimmy: maybe what you should try is to add some variety. do you have a usb stick you could write th einstaller to?
[22:43] <JumpinJimmy> coryc257, yes i am.
[22:44] <sarnold> jjavaholic: normally the fans just run as needed, I've never needed to do anything to get them to speed up or slow down as necessary
[22:44] <coryc257> JumpinJimmy, it's fastboot or optane messing things up I'm almost certain.
[22:44] <coryc257> I have a spectre and it's terrible to work with
[22:44] <JumpinJimmy> coryc257 ok, i'll double check.
[22:45] <coryc257> anyone know if ubuntu does the shimloaded grub like fedora/redhat does?
[22:45] <JumpinJimmy> tomreyn, why would changing the media affect how the OS functions? If it was an issue that it can't be ready at all, but i can parse through the disc and can see what's written on it.
[22:45] <sarnold> coryc257: yes https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shim https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shim-signed
[22:46] <tomreyn> JumpinJimmy: the contents of the file system on the dvd may be fine, but this doesn't tell us whether it's bootable, or whether you system can actually boot off dvds
[22:47] <oerheks> fan speed to adjust to CPU/GPU load? .. there is no such thing to set; it already is done by the chipset
[22:47] <coryc257> tomreyn, preventing bootable dvds sound like something hp would do
[22:47] <tomreyn> JumpinJimmy: there could be a couple reasons why it would work with other boot media but not the dvd. but indeed this doesn't need to be helping, there can be several other reasons why it's not booting, too.
[22:48] <tomreyn> JumpinJimmy: so my suggestion was just about 'trying something else' really.
[22:49] <tomreyn> just because it can sometimes be faster than getting to the bottom of it
[22:49] <JumpinJimmy> ok. I'll try to find a USB stick, and try it there.
[22:49] <JumpinJimmy> if it does boot normally, what does that mean for my laptop?
[22:49] <tomreyn> we wont know
[22:50] <oerheks> check for bios updates
[22:50] <JumpinJimmy> does that mean I can't use ANY live CDs, but can use USB sticks? or is this something specific to Ubuntu?
[22:52] <oerheks> again, we cannot tell, test the dvd on an other machine, or other distro,...
[22:52] <JumpinJimmy> ok.  I can try that too.
[22:56] <jjavaholic> I might have misunderstood what ACPI=forced does
[23:32] <Billy> so somebody gave me one of those ASUS EEE PC NETBOOKS for free, and I bought a charger for 8 dollars - it holds a charge and works etc
[23:32] <Billy> i wanna set it up so my mom can use it to watch amazon prime in the kitchen
[23:33] <Billy> its 32 bit only - should I try running ubuntu on it?
[23:33] <LjL> if it's one of the original EeePCs like the 700 or 901 i doubt it can decode amazon prime videos at realtime speed
[23:33] <tomreyn> not if you want to use it online
[23:33] <Billy> its not that one
[23:33] <Billy> i'll tell you uh hold on
[23:34] <Billy> 1025C
[23:35] <Billy> I used to have one before, a long time ago - and i remember watching youtube and stuff on it
[23:35] <Billy> idk if it was this model though
[23:35] <Billy> but this is the EEE PC 1025C
[23:35] <LjL> Billy, that one seems to feature a H.264 codec so you might have luck, i dunno
[23:36] <Billy> what should i even put on it though
[23:36] <Billy> i was trying to consider an OS
[23:36] <LjL> i don't know, not GNOME or KDE
[23:36] <Billy> a distro i mean
[23:36] <oerheks> maybe a 18.04 iso..
[23:36] <LjL> i'd default to Debian but that might just be because i default to Debian
[23:37] <Billy> I personally default to slackware but i alreayd have a good slacktop setup
[23:38] <Billy> anyway thanks
[23:38] <oerheks> put android on it?
[23:38] <sarnold> is lubuntu 18.04 still supported? that might be a good starting point for an older machine
[23:38] <Billy> lubuntu was on the table too
[23:38] <Billy> in my mind
[23:39] <oerheks> lubuntu gives 3 year support?
[23:39] <oerheks> not 5 like ubuntu/gnome
[23:41] <sarnold> but if you never do anything other than firefox to get to amazon prime video it might be okay
[23:41] <sarnold> I'm not really a desktop person so I don't know what exactly you'd be missing out on
[23:41] <Billy> like i said it was given to me
[23:41] <Billy> and i want to set it up for my mom to watch amazon prime on when shes in the kitchen lol
[23:42] <oerheks> good luck!
[23:44] <tomreyn> https://news.itsfoss.com/netflix-issue-32-bit-linux/
[23:44] <tomreyn> amazon also depends on widevine
[23:45] <tomreyn> * amazon prime
[23:50] <LjL> wow, if that goes for 32bit ARM too, my Kodi box is also going to stop working