[01:29] <Billy> hey uh, why isnt the download page for lubuntu working
[01:30] <guiverc> Billy, what issues are you having with https://lubuntu.me/downloads/ ?
[01:30] <Billy> also - what is the latest version of lubuntu that supports 32 bit?>
[01:30] <Billy> trying to get some use out of an EEE PC 32bit cpu
[01:31] <guiverc> Lubuntu is amd64 only now.  Lubuntu 18.10 was last i386 fully-released & supported; 19.04 was i386 but only into the alpha cycle (if installed upgrades were for life of 19.04), but Lubuntu 18.04.5 has last supported (until 2021-April)
[01:31] <Billy> 18.04 ?
[01:31] <Billy> and after that
[01:31] <Billy> no more 32 bit support ever?
[01:32] <Billy> would it be safe to use? 
[01:32] <guiverc> We don't support 18.04 though; see https://lubuntu.me/bionic-eol/    (I used an eeepc 1000HE in QA-testing up to 19.04)
[01:32] <Billy> i don't even see where i can get 19.04
[01:32] <Billy> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/
[01:33] <guiverc> 32-bit is supported for armv7  but not x86 (or i386 as referred to by both Debian & Ubuntu)
[01:33] <guiverc> 19.04 is EOL & thus gone (to old-releases but you won't find 19.04 there)
[01:33] <Billy> dang so maybe i need to find a different distro
[01:34] <Billy> anything you can recommend? 
[01:34] <guiverc> you'll find Ubuntu 19.04 in old-releases but it's amd64 only (only xubuntu & lubuntu had i386 past 18.04)
[01:34] <Billy> i wanna set this thing up so my mom can use it to play amazon prime
[01:34] <Billy> its an eee pc 1025c
[01:35] <guiverc> we're off-topic; but personally I QA-tested Debian 11 on some x86 boxes; I'd opt for Debian but no idea with streaming (asus eepc really lacked power; mine was intel atom so it was energy efficient but crawled)
[01:35] <Billy> oh wait
[01:35] <Billy> is mine actually 64 bit????
[01:36] <Billy> Intel CedarTrail Atom N2800, 1.86 GHz
[01:36] <Billy> wow
[01:36] <Billy> really???
[01:36] <Billy> i think it is!
[01:36] <guiverc> we don't support debian (debian 11/bullseye releases in mere days; thus the QA-testing of it)
[01:38] <Billy> guiverc can you tell me if i'm wrong here but
[01:38] <Billy> https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/58917/intel-atom-processor-n2800-1m-cache-1-86-ghz.html
[01:38] <Billy> is this not telling me it's a 64 bit cpu????
[01:39] <guiverc> yes it's amd64, but that isn't all you need to boot amd64; you also needed the BIOS to be capable of booting amd64 as well - but yes your CPU is amd64 capable
[01:39] <Billy> well shit ima try the newest one
[01:40] <guiverc> The Lubuntu manual can be found at https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/  (stable=21.04; change stable to lts for the LTS release or 20.04) which provides clues on download & writing to media for testing on your actual box
[01:41] <Billy> oh i know how to do all that
[01:42] <Billy> i'm on a windows PC i just use Rufus to make my boot medfia
[01:42] <guiverc> ensure you use legit sites as well; download page not working implies you went to a *fan* or *fake* site and not a legimate one (don't ask google; go to ubuntu.com for official sites)
[01:43] <guiverc> https://ubuntu.com/download/flavours will send you to legimate sites; google for example offers 3 to download Lubuntu & you need to pick the legit site yourself from what's offered
[01:43] <Billy> no i'll show you the thing that wasnt working 
[01:43] <Billy> hold on
[01:43] <Billy> also FYI I work with IT stuff for a living
[01:44] <Billy> ok
[01:44] <Billy> so if you go here:
[01:44] <Billy> https://lubuntu.net/downloads/
[01:44] <guiverc> that is NOT a Lubuntu site
[01:44] <Billy> oh rly
[01:44] <Billy> ok f*ck me
[01:44] <Billy> well my download is here
[01:44] <Billy> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/21.04/release/
[01:44] <guiverc> It's not under Canonical, Ubuntu or Lubuntu control..  We can't control unofficial, fake or fan sites
[01:44] <Billy> so we're ok
[01:45] <guiverc> (Canonical is the company behind Ubuntu)
[01:46] <guiverc> that is what is usually treated as a 'fan' site; outdated usually, but to my knowledge other than having very old links, doesn't give fraudulent ISOs as directs to ubuntu.com for actual downloads
[01:46] <Billy> jeez
[01:46] <Billy> i feel so dumb
[02:31] <Billy> welp
[02:31] <Billy> i boot from the install media
[02:31] <Billy> i get a list
[02:31] <Billy> I select Lubuntu or Lubuntu safe and i get
[02:31] <Billy> error: symbol 'grub_rregister_command
[02:31] <Billy> error: symbol 'grub_rregister_command_lockdown' not found
[02:32] <Billy> nvm found the issue
[02:33] <Billy> have to use a newer RUFUS
[02:45] <Billy> well i'm not getting any error but i just got a blanks creen with a blinking _, we'll give it a bit
[03:02] <Billy> yeah nothin, mess with it tomororw.
[04:35] <guiverc> Billy, refer https://askubuntu.com/questions/1333512/error-symbol-grub-register-command-lockdown-not-found-when-installing-ubuntu
[04:36] <guiverc> okay ; you 'found the issue' which maybe the same link...
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[17:04] <uhc> hi
[19:32] <ChinaisSOY> How do I RANDOMIZE my ETHERNET MAC address on my Raspberry PI Debian Buster Lite?
[22:30] <lubot_> [telegram] <Halis> Which network manager do you use?
[22:34] <tomreyn> if you're responding to ChinaisSOY - they're gone. if you're doing a poll - please don't.
[22:34] <tomreyn> and if you have a non poll lubuntu question, just ask. ;)
[22:37] <TJ-> that's very poll-ist!
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