[00:11] LjL, are you certain your hardware doesn't support 64 bit? some embedded things ship with a 32bit kernel for reasons [00:13] I am creating a user using this command, "useradd username -m -g users -G wheel,storage,power,network,video,audio,lp". Can someone explain to me why "group: users" is generally not recommended? Reference: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Users_and_groups#Unused_groups === deww_ is now known as deww [00:17] B0RN, my guess is to avoid potential issues if you run into a poorly written program that magically grants access to something without going through pam/polkit [00:19] B0RN: please don't cross post. [00:19] sorry, my bad. [00:21] B0RN: it used to be popular to have all users in a 'users' group or 'students' group or 'staff' group oor something like that [00:21] B0RN: but it was dangerously easy for people to make files and directories with vastly more group access than they intended [00:22] what should command should I use? I will only create one user, and I will never add another user. [00:24] coryc257, right now i'm on holiday so i can't even check, it was just a thought. but whatever it comes with, i'd have to use whatever coreelec ships with, i don't have a very wide choice of what Kodi distros i can install on it [00:24] I'd just add the user and add it too groups as you find something is broken if you: useradd username -G wheel [00:25] you will have a user with a default group of username and an additional group of wheel [00:25] with wheel assuming your system is set up to sudo based upon wheel you can sudo add groups as you need them [00:26] HOLA [00:26] LLLALALA [00:26] URUGU4Y: welcome to ubuntu support [00:27] coryc257, so this is useless, storage,power,network,video,audio,lp? [00:27] HOLA [00:27] HELLO [00:28] B0RN, I'm not sure if you need them or not. that depends on your distro and how they have stuff set up [00:28] URUGU4Y: please don't type in ALL CAPS, ask a support question if you have one. keep things on as few lines as possible. you are currently muted. [00:28] i think ubuntu defaults to: adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin lxd sambashare [00:30] i use kiss linux, coryc257. [00:31] B0RN: then you're not asking on the right channel [00:31] what? [00:31] no, I mean use ubuntu and kiss both. [00:31] I mainly use ubuntu [00:32] what system are you trying to add the user to? [00:32] ubuntu? [00:32] ubuntu, yes. [00:32] adduser ... [00:33] B0RN, sudo useradd mrbill -m -G adm,cdrom,sudo,dip,plugdev,lpadmin,lxd,sambashare [00:35] thanks, coryc257. last question, do I really need that cdrom? I don't have any CD Hardware [00:36] B0RN, it may do usb mounting as well. I'm not sure [00:38] thank you for your kindness, coryc257! [01:08] Finally! [01:09] The Freenode nonsense came as a surprise [01:09] heh, yeah [01:10] I just wanted to post an answer it took me way too long to find about dual booting, and linux not being able to use your NIC [01:11] https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/iwlwifi#about_dual-boot_with_windows_and_fast-boot_enabled [01:11] I didn't realize it was dual boot specific. [01:12] you have to disable fast boot in windows to make a long story short [01:12] windows fast boot is pretty frustrating [01:14] I kept wondering how the linux guys broke it. I felt kind of dumb after I read it. [01:16] heh I'm surprised you were even able to get into linux, I thuoght the fastboot thing meant the startup was pretty much locked to windows [01:19] Some folks on the linux side made it easier to deal with uefi, or whatever it is called. The only issues I have been having was the inability of linux to use the NIC, and sometimes frequent Bluetooth disconnects. [01:21] on ubuntu 20.04, i have a little working to launch a program from cli, i need to add something to my .bashrc an export, if i want to launch the application from the menu [01:21] that does not work [01:21] is there a place to set a global export so i can launch my app directly from the menu [01:24] make a proper starter. and add the program to yout %path% [01:25] .bashrc is the place to be, for user level [01:29] ah ok [01:35] Now if I can just figure out why my HDD is constantly being accessed on linux. The cure for it on windows didn't work. On windows it was FireFox and it's backups being rerouted to my Drive. Found the fix. The fix didn't work on linux [01:39] CanisElSaviore: you might have luck with the biotop-bpfcc tool from the bpfcc-tools package [01:39] CanisElSaviore: you can see an example of it on https://github.com/iovisor/bcc/blob/master/tools/biotop_example.txt [01:39] CanisElSaviore: I'm pretty sure you have to disable secureboot to use it though :( [01:39] there might be other tools that don't require disabling secureboot [01:40] Hmm [01:44] CanisElSaviore: it's probably you irc client, configured to log to disk? other than "biotop", there's also the classic user space based "iotop", which should not depend on disabling secureboot. the results will probablly not be as exact as biotop's, but for answering the "what keeps waking my disk" question, it shoul dbe good enough. [01:45] oh nice. I knew there was something else :) [01:48] and i didn't know about biotop, thanks for that! [01:50] @tomreyn, It isn't my primary disk thogh. That is an SSD. It's one of my Hdd's. I have been having this issue for years. It might just be some idiosyncratic factory thing though. I have 2 that are suppose to be idential, but only one spins, and sounds as if it's being accessed constantly, while the other acts like it is supposed to. [01:51] maybe give them both a smartctl run [01:51] Are PPAs something the developer hosts or is it something that is ubuntu/canonical specific? [01:51] !smart | CanisElSaviore [01:51] CanisElSaviore: smart is Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology, a monitoring system for hard drives. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools [01:51] Using some FF workarounds I got it to stop spinning constantly. But I can't see what is accessing the disk in linux. [01:51] It's telling me that nothing is, though I can hear it. [01:51] XV8: they're almost certainly canonical/ubuntu -- while there *are* other people running launchpad, it's very rare [01:53] I'm still trying to sort my way through what biotop actually is. There are a lot of words for a drunk guy that digs holes to absorb. [01:53] sarnold, There's a PPA I'm trying to add, but I'm getting GPG timeouts. Wondering if that's one of those rare cases. [01:55] ok. I remembered how to read from the beginning. [01:55] Oh, now it wants to work that I passed the debug flag... probably a hiccup [02:30] h [02:57] my wifi interface name was changed to wlo1. how are they different from wlan0 ? [02:58] any help on ubuntu network configuration types here? === goncho1 is now known as goncho [03:20] How come these variables aren't being set? https://dpaste.org/Hg0w [03:21] I'm on Ubuntu Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS for reference [03:24] did you source file ? [03:24] Ali-Karam, no I logged out and then logged in. The goal of this is for it to be run on login [03:26] these are the contents of .bashrc and .profile ? [03:26] Yes [03:26] My understanding is that .profile should be called on login so the variables should be set [03:32] try echo $PYENV_ROOT [03:32] no output? [03:33] I'm new to linux, just trying to help you if I can [03:34] Ali-Karam: thanks for trying. I think this is going to be related to precedence of how the files load [03:37] what does this do sudo aptitude install '~T' [03:38] installs everything but "T", it's negation ;) [03:39] i'm going to try it [03:39] newdimension, there is a note at the bottom of the command you entered. Did you do it? [03:39] Note: If you have ~/.bash_profile, make sure that it too executes the above-added commands, e.g. by copying them there or by source'ing ~/.profile [03:40] yes, make sure to put sudo aptitude install '~T' in ~/.bashrc as well [03:41] that wasn't for you shimbles [03:41] i'm sorry i am struggling with brain damage [03:41] when i attempted to trigger your sense of humor, i noticed your brain was damaged [03:42] sorry for not getting that :/ [03:44] aptitude gave a Segmentation Fault with aptitude install '~T' === Ali-Karam_ is now known as Ali-Karam [05:56] How To Install And Configure Sendmail On Ubuntu [06:01] hi i installed yandex.disk on my machine and now i uninstalled it but the option 'upload via yandex.disk' is still there when i right click any file. please help [06:27] hai all [06:27] how do i configure email on ubuntu [06:28] You can use terminal mutt client [06:28] Raimomdraj [06:30] can u guide me please [06:30] i see true youtube and some website [06:30] but still im lost [06:30] unable to do it [06:31] RaimondRaj, what exactly do you want to do? [06:31] acct i need to cofi for nickserv register email [06:32] sorry can not parse that line. [06:33] You mean register your Nick name [06:33] ... [06:33] That's it oh my goodness [06:33] its like went user register new nickmail its will send email true email to send confirm nickname [06:34] Just type /msg NickServ REGISTER YourPassword youremail [06:35] new nickname register will get email to confirm their nickname [06:35] some server dia setup email for confirmation [06:35] In sever channel [06:35] oh god [06:35] Are you a newbie [06:36] Also here actually [06:36] yvehan : im running new irc server need to confi sendmail [06:37] You are building a IRC server [06:37] Right, I have no idea [06:38] yes [06:38] Search with google [06:38] I'm working now [06:38] Workday [06:38] Sorry === lordrishav is now known as LordRishav [07:47] "Could be your wine config is set..." <- Sorry, got pulled away and forgot I asked here. :) Would the matter with Proton? I thought proton used all its own internal stuff? That being said, I've got everything installed as far as I can tell? [08:13] Is there a specific channel here for Debian and Ubuntu package developers/maintainers? I specifically have a question about apt's conflict resolution mechanism. [08:15] confluence, the package itself may provide clues as to which room is appropriate; ie. which team is responsibile for the unspecified package? [08:16] I *am* the team responsible for the package. I'm looking for information for package maintainers. [08:16] I'll try in #ubuntu-packaging; it's small, but I'll see if someone respondes. :) [08:18] yep that would be the most appropriate [08:32] guiverc: for packages in universe etc, there used to be #ubuntu-motu, not sure if it's active anymore [08:33] While if it's a personal package not in universe, then yeah #ubuntu-packaging sounds appropriate [08:48] Yeah, it's a custom package in a PPA. [09:18] Hello, I'm on an Ubuntu focal. I'm wondering why snap mounts a device for every app I install? Devices names "loop0", "loop1"... === denningsrogue6 is now known as denningsrogue [09:36] Hello terminal-lovers, the buffer is limited, so I can only scroll up a defined number of lines. Can I change this number/buffer, so I can scroll more "up" in the terminal? === BlessJah_ is now known as BlessJah [09:41] if you are using an emulator like Konsole, there is a setting for it in the profile settings [09:41] alzgh: not for the terminal? [09:42] alzgh: yes, it's really weird. one of the reasons many uninstall snap. [09:43] terminal like a login terminal or is it an emulator that you run from a desktop environment? [10:03] the likelihood of getting iptables 1.6.2 packaged for 18.04 is not very high judging by this, right? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iptables/+bug/1805543 [10:03] Launchpad bug 1805543 in iptables (Ubuntu) "Packaged version of iptables doesn't provide --random-fully flag." [Wishlist, Confirmed] [10:05] it causes connection resets on any kubernetes setup with 18.04 nodes and e.g. Calico as CNI since it can't make use of --random-fully for MASQUERADE (Calico can detect that it needs to do this, but only iptables >=1.6.2 exposes the option) [10:12] Hello everyone. I can't install the "gi module" with python3. It is driving me nuts. Any help greatly appreciated. [10:13] hey bob2, what have you tried and what (error) messages are you getting? [10:14] zaggynl, I've tried "pip install gi" and I've tried "apt-get install python3 gi". I even tried "conda install gi". [10:14] python3-gi* [10:15] I forget if ubuntu 20.04 defaults to python3 or python2.7, does it work with pip3 install gi? [10:16] assuming you're on 20.04 [10:16] bob2: talking about pygobject? [10:19] zaggynl, Ubuntu 20 comes with python2.7 installed which is no longer supported. "pip2.7 install gi" works fine. But "pip3 install gi" fails. [10:20] what's it say when it fails? [10:21] ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement gi (from versions: none) [10:21] ERROR: No matching distribution found for gi [10:21] 'cause there's no such package in pypi [10:21] try pip install pygobject [10:22] ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement pyobject (from versions: --1.1.1, -1.1, -1.1.4, 1.0, 1.1.2, 1.1.3) [10:22] ERROR: No matching distribution found for pyobject [10:24] bob2: what command is that output from? [10:24] oops typo [10:24] pyggobject and pycairo are both installed [10:28] This command fails: python3 -m pip install -U PyGObject [10:28] ERROR: Could not build wheels for PyGObject which use PEP 517 and cannot be installed directly [10:31] (you don't have to worry about case with pip, 'pygobject' will suffice) [10:32] bob2: does it say to upgrade pip? [10:33] matsaman, for pip2.7 yes. [10:33] what you should probably do is python -m venv ~/my-venv; source ~/my-venv/bin/activate; pip install -U pip; pip install gobject [10:37] bob2: or you could try pip install --no-binary :all: pygobject [10:37] That seems to have worked but I have a new error message now. [10:38] gi.require_version("Gtk","3.0")...... ValueError: Namespace Gtk not available [10:41] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56823857/valueerror-namespace-gtk-not-available [10:44] matsaman, yes I tried everything on that page. It also seems to have gone back to the original "gi error" for some inexplicable reason. [10:44] I don't have a good understanding of python environments [10:44] I am in (v-env)(base). I think I want to go back to (v-env) [10:45] oh okay [10:45] you probably need to run 'deactivate' a couple times [10:45] till your prompt is 100% normal [10:45] and then source path/to/venv/bin/activate _once_ for the right path [10:46] if you're not sure which is right, then just start from scratch again: python3 -m venv new/venv/path; source new/venv/path/bin/activate [10:46] #python can probably help with whatever you're doing, too [10:47] Hi [10:47] hi [10:49] I have a laptop, bought in 2013-14 with 8 gb ram. I have been looking at different DEs but not able to settle on one. The problem is that the icons and fonts of all the DEs are very big. Can anyone suggest any DE [10:51] Thanks matsaman. [10:52] Guest64: most of the popular DEs, you can configure icon size [10:52] and font size [10:55] The launcher for example covers half of the screen and the windows cover the whole area, the minimise, maximise buttons are big [10:55] i mean fo desktop i understand [10:55] *for [10:56] but for laptop its really annoying === michele_ is now known as michele [11:31] how do I configure my cpu so that it's set for maximum performance? [11:43] that should be automatic. [11:44] unless you mean overclocking? === qwedfg_ is now known as qwedfg [12:00] alzgh: no, I mean: 'gnome-terminal' [12:01] How can I see more lines when I scroll up in gnome-terminal? [12:02] Liblx Preferences->Settings->Scrolling tab->Limit Scrollback to... [12:04] alzgh: cool! thanks. And oh, it's already 10,000 ... hm. :D [12:07] alzgh: do you also know how to change the sound of the 'terminal bell'? [12:32] Liblx, Settings--Sounds--Alerts--Sounds and if you prefers change it look for /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/ [12:48] ioria: seems like that guy from yesterday ran into mesa on that bug #1939447 [12:48] Bug 1939447 in vlc (Ubuntu) "Audio plays but no video in vlc" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1939447 [12:48] let me see lotuspsychje [12:50] hey, Whenever I pause/play on vlc, if the pause is longer than a few seconds, I get a silence of a few seconds in the audio when I click play again. I looked this up and saw some other folks have this too, but couldn't find a definite solution [12:50] your talk of vlc on Ubuntu reminded me of this [12:50] I'm on focal [12:53] lotuspsychje, i see; i have already read somewhere about vdpau problems with vlc ... [12:54] ok, tnx ioria lets keep an eye on those [12:54] sure [12:58] alzgh: other mediaplayers dont have that lag? [12:59] Is there a way to down load the source code of "linux-image-extra-4.4.0-66-generic" package? [12:59] lotuspsychje haven't checked any others. Is there any you would recommend checking? [12:59] alzgh: smplayer would be a good test [13:00] thanks, will check and come back [13:06] Guest9659, you can with apt source, but you have to comment out deb-src lines first in your sources.list config. [13:08] lotuspsychje checked with smplayer and mpv player, they don't have the few seconds of silence like VLC. [13:10] alzgh: something like bug #1856036 ? [13:10] Bug 1856036 in vlc (Ubuntu) "sound shout up after 10s" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1856036 [13:12] Guest9659, assuming version 4.4.0-66 is still part of your repo [13:16] hey lotuspsychje sorry, I lost connection. Can you post the issue # again? [13:17] alzgh: can you check if you have the symptons of bug #1856036 [13:17] Bug 1856036 in vlc (Ubuntu) "sound shout up after 10s" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1856036 [13:17] yes, will do [13:21] coconut: sudo apt-get source linux-image-extra-4.4.0-66-generic [13:21] ? [13:21] coconut: is the above command correct? [13:21] Guest9659: what version of ubuntu are you running? [13:22] leftyfb: Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS [13:22] 4.4 [13:22] !eol | Guest9659 [13:22] Guest9659: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [13:23] Guest9659: your efforts should be put into upgrading the release, not looking for the kernel source [13:23] !esm | Guest9659 if you'd like support with EOL releases, you can get ESM support through Canonical [13:23] Guest9659 if you'd like support with EOL releases, you can get ESM support through Canonical: Canonical offers paid extended security support for end-of-life LTS releases through the Ubuntu Advantage program. For more information, see https://ubuntu.com/esm . ESM is not an Ubuntu community offering; please direct questions about it to Canonical directly. [13:26] maybe if Guest9659 would clarify his purpose, volunteers could help think along? [13:27] Hi all [13:30] lotuspsychje it's more like this https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc/-/issues/25964 . [13:30] Issue 25964 in videolan/vlc "pause/play audio issue" [Opened] [13:31] alzgh: if they claim to be fixed in vlc 4, you could perhaps test the vlc snap dev channel [13:31] alzgh: snap info vlc [13:33] will check it, lotuspsychje . thanks === mybalzit1h is now known as mybalzitch === Guest14 is now known as wsdjeg [14:14] * wonko[m] < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/04fdc00197d52cd7d8f8836913618f3fc1b77043/message.txt > [14:19] weird, I can get there with a browser [14:19] but pastebinit gets a 502 [14:34] ledeni: thanks for the sound alert infos. perfect. [14:55] wonko[m], my pastebinit does not work either... have you tried the | nc termbin.com 9999 #alternative [14:56] ? === michele_ is now known as michele === schiggn is now known as koffeinfriedhof [15:37] Hello! I am running 20.04.2 and am having a bit of difficulty with the nvidia drivers. I tried from both the software updater GUI and terminal to install/update the latest driver from nvidia (470) but am receiving "unmet dependencies" and "you have held broken packages" errors. [15:38] I ran dpkg --get selections | grep hold and it doesn't show anything so I'm sure it's only the unmet dependencies [15:38] How can I figure out how to fix this? [15:39] the dependencies listed are all nvidia-based, so I'm confused as to why it doesn't just pull them as part of the install [15:53] nick7465, show the error you got so volunteers can try and help you [15:54] sudo apt install nvidia-driver-470 [15:54] Reading package lists... Done [15:54] Building dependency tree [15:54] Reading state information... Done [15:54] Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have [15:54] requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable [15:54] !paste | nick7465 [15:54] nick7465: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [15:55] Oops! Sorry about that, thank you. Let me try the other paste method. [15:56] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zr8XjsjjbQ/ [15:57] In the GUI it shows that I'm using a proprietary driver now (460) but in the installed applications it also shows the Xserver app which I believe is the open source Nouveau driver [15:58] Performance certainly feels like the Nouveau driver [15:59] "ubottu" haha that's a clever bot name [16:02] nick7465, can you paste dpkg -l | grep nvidia ? [16:04] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PHgggn9pTf/ === pi37 is now known as johnjay [16:05] nick7465, lspci -nnk | pastebinit [16:06] What does this command do? It's asking me to install pastebinit [16:06] nick7465, no worries ; paste ' lspci -nnk ' [16:07] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pHzZnhy5f4/ [16:09] nick7465, as you can see, you're using nvidia module and you have multiple versions installed ... and you want to install also 470 ? [16:11] Hmm, I am guessing the multiple versions is potentially the issue... I'm mainly trying to troubleshoot why I get such poor performance compared to using Windows. I can run games 144fps on Windows but the same game (made for Linux version of course) I will get 20fps. [16:11] I thought upgrading to 470 might help [16:11] But I'm kind of just throwing darts at a wall here [16:12] nick7465, if you ask me, purge the previous version(s), before installing a new one [16:12] nick7465: my experiene with Steam games (not the latest though) is that they run pretty well. 20 FPS seems to show that it is running without GPU accel. [16:13] How can I do that? [16:13] nick7465: it is not easy to install NVIDIA drivers "right", in many cases. [16:13] Yes I agree, Walex. I for sure am having an issue I really don't think it's the game itself [16:13] nick7465: the first thing to check is whether you do have acceleration. [16:13] nick7465, you have installed 440 450 460 [16:14] Oh my. How can I purge all of them, Ioria? [16:14] nick7465, does it work your card with nouveau ? [16:15] Walex, I am very new to Linux still. I am not sure how to do that [16:15] nick7465: that [16:15] nick7465: that's why we are here and can tell you. [16:15] Ioria, I have no idea. [16:15] nick7465: which package manager do you usually use for installation? [16:15] I feel really dumb, I'm sorry. But thank you guys very much for helping. [16:15] nick7465, what's the nvidia version actually in use ? [16:16] I usually use apt via terminal. I think I have one snap package installed but can't remember. [16:16] According to the software updater app, it says the 460 is in use. [16:17] nick7465, nvidia-smi what it says ? [16:18] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3XfPmbFQ24/ [16:18] running nested virtualization (ubuntu host -> ubuntu guest -> another ubuntu guest). Any idea why everthing is so slow? Also, Virtualbox [16:19] nick7465, sudo apt nvidia-driver-440 && sudo apt autopurge [16:19] nick7465, sudo apt purge nvidia-driver-440 && sudo apt autopurge [16:21] Done. Should I also do the same for 450, Ioria? [16:21] nick7465: your latest paste shows that various processes are using the NVIDIA libraries... === waxfire238 is now known as waxfire [16:22] nick7465: 'nvidia-smi' seems to show that your installation is mostly right. [16:22] Walex, that makes sense. I run dual monitors though my secondary monitor's max resolution is 1024x768 according to the software/OS but the monitor's actual capability is far greater (1080 monitor) [16:22] nick7465, yes [16:23] Oh hm, it says 450 is not installed so it wasn't removed. Logical, but I thought we saw it was. Interesting. [16:23] Maybe it was purged when I did the 440 [16:24] nick7465, again dpkg -l | grep nvidia please [16:24] nick7465: you also have CUDA installed and then it is possible to do some quick speed tests. [16:24] hey [16:25] nick7465, if you have cuda that's probably the culprit [16:25] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cDv25pcrZQ/ [16:25] I don't know if I have cuda or not, why would that be problematic? Don't nvidia GPUs have cuda cores regardless? [16:25] ioria: CUDA does not make OpenGL become slower. [16:26] I'm managing to get very confused. Does fail2ban block ipv6 miscreants as well as i?v4? [16:26] Walex, but can mess up, with the package manager [16:26] dpkg -l | grep nvidia looks a lot cleaner now, but nvidia-smi no longer works [16:26] also a little known secret: the most reliable NVIDIA drivers are those in the CUDA repository, because they have to be :-) [16:26] Should I purge 460 and install 470? [16:27] nick7465, no it's wrong i don't see 460 [16:27] Uh oh [16:27] In that paste it mentions 460? [16:27] Ah okay in software-updater it shows I'm using the nouveau driver now [16:28] nick7465, the pkg is calld nvidia-driver-460 [16:28] nick7465: not necessariy, you have not rebooted. [16:28] oh I see there's still two 440s listed in that last paste [16:28] nick7465, dpkg -l | grep -i cuda [16:28] nick7465: existing processes will continue to use the NVIDIA libraries. [16:28] oh my this is confusing! haha. Should I reboot? [16:28] nope [16:28] nick7465, dpkg -l | grep -i cuda [16:29] nick7465: not yet reboot [16:29] That command returns nothing [16:29] no error, just nothing [16:29] ok [16:29] I seemed to have broken my ubuntu install by starting my dual-booted windows and shutting down before it started to boot. While trying to set up grub again on my ubuntu (which is on a different SSD than my windows), I seemed to have trouble setting up GRUB+EFI for my ubuntu. Based on searching around on the internet, I think the source of the problem may be that there's no EFI partition on my ubuntu SSD. When listing the partitions, I saw [16:29] that there were only the / partition, the /home partition, and swap. Assuming nothing outright removed any other partition, and that there needs to be an efi partition to install an efi bootloader, then might the only explanation be that my EFI partition was on my Windows drive all along? Because I do see an EFI System partition there. Also I believe I installed Windows first [16:30] nick7465, sudo apt purge inux-modules-nvidia-440-5.4.0-42-generic inux-modules-nvidia-440-5.4.0-47-generic [16:30] amcsi: there must be only one EFI partition. [16:30] nick7465, sudo apt purge inux-modules-nvidia-440-5.4.0-42-generic inux-modules-nvidia-440-5.4.0-47-generic [16:31] nick7465, sorry, sudo apt purge linux-modules-nvidia-440-5.4.0-42-generic linux-modules-nvidia-440-5.4.0-47-generic [16:31] amcsi: unless you do really weird things like switching the "primary" drive in the BIOS before booting. [16:31] hehe figured that one, no problem! I ran it with the missing l's and it removed both [16:31] Walex, oh, I mounted /sdb2 (the windows drive's EFI partition), and in there I see an EFI/ubuntu [16:31] nick7465, sudo apt purge libnvidia-compute-460 [16:32] amcsi: amcsi: the way Ubuntu boots with EFI is slightly weird, so don't look into that. [16:32] so that means the EFI partition was on the drive meant for windows all along most likely, right? [16:32] ok [16:32] ioria done! [16:32] nick7465, sudo apt autopurge [16:32] ran, nothing changed [16:33] nick7465, uname -r (you can paste here) [16:33] 5.11.0-25-generic [16:33] amcsi: how much do you know about system administration? Can you boot a standalone "liveCD"/"liveUSB" Linux without further details? [16:33] nick7465, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade [16:33] Walex, yes [16:34] ran, no changes (I ran this about an hour ago) [16:34] Walex, so I would like to appreciate a little help in the following: [16:34] amcsi: do you know how to then 'chroot' to your '/' partition and run commands in it? [16:34] nick7465, dpkg -l | grep nvidia === diskin_ is now known as diskin [16:34] Walex, yeah, mostly [16:34] didn't return anything ioria [16:34] ok [16:34] but wait a second please [16:35] nick7465, run this 'apt -s install nvidia-driver-470 --no-install-recommends' [16:35] amcsi: ok, give us the further details. [16:35] Ran very quickly, seemed successful? [16:35] can we see ? [16:36] so initially I tried to run grubinstall --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda, were /mnt is where my ubuntu root is mounted to, and /dev/sda being the device obviously. But I got: warning this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot partition yada yada [16:36] Oh "this is only a simulation" haha! no wonder it ran quick. Yes let me paste ioria [16:36] but now I realized that the EFI partition was on the other device [16:36] in /dev/sdb2 [16:36] ioria https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/f6q39Mybs8/ [16:36] now I mounted /dev/sdb2 to /mnteffi [16:36] I mean /mntefi [16:37] nick7465, now this : 'apt -s install nvidia-driver-470' [16:37] Walex, so might you know how I would need to continue from here to finish the grub reinstall? [16:37] I'll need to somehow let the grub installer know about where my efi is [16:38] ioria https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cgvrNNrwsZ/ [16:38] amcsi: that is "all wrong" unfortunately. [16:38] nick7465, looks ok now [16:38] amcsi: your EFI partition must be on the prima boot device. [16:39] I agree, Ioria. Should I run one of those two simulated commands for real now? [16:39] amcsi: the EFI is actually a MS.DOS like operating system [16:39] nick7465, try to install it : sudo apt install nvidia-driver-470' [16:39] amcsi: that gets booted by the BIOS built into the motherboard. [16:39] nick7465, try to install it : sudo apt install nvidia-driver-470 [16:39] Walex, it couldn't be all wrong, because this is how it's been working... [16:39] amcsi: and its "root" partition must be on the primary boot device. [16:40] amcsi: then perhaps you have a BIOS that can boot the EFI OS from a secondary boot device, but that is unlikely. [16:40] I installed Windows first on the windows drive which created an EFI partition there. Then I installed ubuntu on the other drive, and it likely reused the same EFI partition as windows, no? [16:40] on the other device [16:40] It would then install Grub wouldn't it? [16:41] amcsi: what is then more likely is that the BIOS and Linux list devices on a different order [16:41] amcsi: so 'sdb' is actually at the BIOS level the primary device (0x80 in MS-DOS terms). [16:41] Ioria, it seems to have worked fine! Installed about 788mb. No errors. Do I need to change any configuration or settings or whatnot to use it? Or reboot etc? [16:42] amcsi: in that case it is a bit of a mess to get all the details right. [16:42] amcsi: does MS-Windows boot right? [16:42]